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Quote from: Wysi on November 04, 2019, 04:48:46 AM

It's a pure greed from the developers to pool in more money and these various phase of IEOs are not communicated to us when we initially invest in their projects and then it's really a tiring procedure before we get our tokens or money back and then we gotta either sell it off immediately which causes investor's dump or else take the hit as most of the coins go through pump for first few days of listing then takes a hit.

I know we cannot blame the developers or investor's alone because sometimes bounty hunters dump the tokens and sometimes market doesn't favor. It's good to avoid ICOs for a while.

I think that it was when raising of fund through ico started becoming too difficult that they introduced that Multiple round of ico, unlike before that a project could even raise the whole project moment within 2 weeks but now, I dint think that even works again. Some of them don't even pass the first round talk less of going to the second phase and I think it is not right for you to put much blame on hunters dumping a project.

When it comes to a project to dump, it would take millions of dollars to be taken out of the project marketcap for it to be qualified as dumping, then ask me, how much exactly do these people allocate for hunters, and how many hunters really worked for them for it to have had major impact. The people dumping their project are still their investors that they have allocated thousands of the tokens to as gift.

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The longer the ICO runs it will reduce investor confidence because they certainly see that apparently not many people are interested in investing in the project. I am pretty sure that right now there are projects that can be fast if they make sales and also about bonuses, it shouldn't be too big to avoid DUMP when entering the market

Investor confidence will continue to grow if the projects that run ICO have good goals and products, I have seen several new projects, for example, QDAO which runs ICO for more than 5 rounds, with prices that continue to rise at each round and the tokens they sell continue to run out sold every round.

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Quote from: NewRanger on November 04, 2019, 01:35:53 AM

investors will loss their trust if developers team decided to run multiple ico.we have multiple opinion with their decision why collecting money again ,first round investors will be very disappointed more over if developers team didnt reach roadmap at all. ,they affraid market will have different response with developers team thinking.i am sure if it happen ,they were mismanaged fund from 1st ico.

But the reason they held multiple ICOs in addition to being afraid was because the funds obtained were not enough and on the other hand to get the maximum funds. Of course, if investors in the first round will get a big bonus or discount and give bonuses for each round

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Quote from: Rockie1234 on July 27, 2019, 04:18:54 PM

Have you heard of ICOs with multiple rounds? Like they raise a certain amount of money now, use that money for primary aims and goals, and then a few months/years down the line (as part of their original plan) launch a second round to fund additional goals and further project development? Just wondering if this is a thing, if so please provide me with some links to projects that have done so.

Multiple round for ICO selling make many investor tired with ICO investment, almost ICO have more than ten phase for selling their ICO which each phase take time more than two or three weeks, I invested with ICO and waiting moe than three months for selling coin in the exchange market, I dislike with procedure of ICO have multiple phase for selling their coin, why not take short time for selling ICO coin.

It's a pure greed from the developers to pool in more money and these various phase of IEOs are not communicated to us when we initially invest in their projects and then it's really a tiring procedure before we get our tokens or money back and then we gotta either sell it off immediately which causes investor's dump or else take the hit as most of the coins go through pump for first few days of listing then takes a hit.

I know we cannot blame the developers or investor's alone because sometimes bounty hunters dump the tokens and sometimes market doesn't favor. It's good to avoid ICOs for a while.

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Quote from: Rockie1234 on July 27, 2019, 04:18:54 PM

Have you heard of ICOs with multiple rounds? Like they raise a certain amount of money now, use that money for primary aims and goals, and then a few months/years down the line (as part of their original plan) launch a second round to fund additional goals and further project development? Just wondering if this is a thing, if so please provide me with some links to projects that have done so.

Multiple round for ICO selling make many investor tired with ICO investment, almost ICO have more than ten phase for selling their ICO which each phase take time more than two or three weeks, I invested with ICO and waiting moe than three months for selling coin in the exchange market, I dislike with procedure of ICO have multiple phase for selling their coin, why not take short time for selling ICO coin.

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Ico usually only does one round of their sales, but the policy can change if the income develop get is not in accordance with the minimum target (sotfcap), of course the team will try to do ico for the second time so that the collected funds can reach their target, because the more funds are obtained from ico, the easier it is for them to develop their project according to the roadmap, but if there are project developers who repeatedly make an ico even though they have received a lot of funds and reached the target (hardcap), I thought that was a fraud and only targets money from investors.

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Quote from: Polar91 on November 04, 2019, 01:13:24 AM

Quote from: Rockie1234 on July 27, 2019, 04:18:54 PM

Have you heard of ICOs with multiple rounds? Like they raise a certain amount of money now, use that money for primary aims and goals, and then a few months/years down the line (as part of their original plan) launch a second round to fund additional goals and further project development?

It's normal thing in ICO since in every round, the price becomes morr expensive which make since and beneficial for thr earlier investors. The only cautious in this system is when the stated period per round were adjusted and moved. It happens many time when the project doesn't meet the expectation and preparation they expect to the investors.

The team has an option on what to do based on their strategy while still selling the project, all they want is just to raise as much as they can so they will have a decent amount to develop the project, I think the more crucial part is after the ICO as that's the stage where we will know if they deliver or not.

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Quote from: Polar91 on November 04, 2019, 01:13:24 AM

Quote from: Rockie1234 on July 27, 2019, 04:18:54 PM

Have you heard of ICOs with multiple rounds? Like they raise a certain amount of money now, use that money for primary aims and goals, and then a few months/years down the line (as part of their original plan) launch a second round to fund additional goals and further project development?

It's normal thing in ICO since in every round, the price becomes morr expensive which make since and beneficial for thr earlier investors. The only cautious in this system is when the stated period per round were adjusted and moved. It happens many time when the project doesn't meet the expectation and preparation they expect to the investors.

investors will loss their trust if developers team decided to run multiple ico.we have multiple opinion with their decision why collecting money again ,first round investors will be very disappointed more over if developers team didnt reach roadmap at all. ,they affraid market will have different response with developers team thinking.i am sure if it happen ,they were mismanaged fund from 1st ico.

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Quote from: Rockie1234 on July 27, 2019, 04:18:54 PM

Have you heard of ICOs with multiple rounds? Like they raise a certain amount of money now, use that money for primary aims and goals, and then a few months/years down the line (as part of their original plan) launch a second round to fund additional goals and further project development?

It's normal thing in ICO since in every round, the price becomes morr expensive which make since and beneficial for thr earlier investors. The only cautious in this system is when the stated period per round were adjusted and moved. It happens many time when the project doesn't meet the expectation and preparation they expect to the investors.

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Quote from: Rockie1234 on July 27, 2019, 04:18:54 PM

Have you heard of ICOs with multiple rounds? Like they raise a certain amount of money now, use that money for primary aims and goals, and then a few months/years down the line (as part of their original plan) launch a second round to fund additional goals and further project development? Just wondering if this is a thing, if so please provide me with some links to projects that have done so.

In general, I normally belong to several rounds in ICO projects. This is sometimes a necessary measure, which is now associated with the poor state of the cryptocurrency market. Even good ICO projects now often do not raise sufficient, even minimal funds, and therefore such a measure may be the only one so that this project can still be launched.
However, as elsewhere, there may be abuse. This is not always good for bounty hunters, because sometimes the ICO project teams do not allocate additional tokens for subsequent rounds, in fact, forcing them to continue working for free, especially if it is impossible to exit the bounty without saving previously earned tokens.

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Quote from: Rockie1234 on July 27, 2019, 04:18:54 PM

Have you heard of ICOs with multiple rounds? Like they raise a certain amount of money now, use that money for primary aims and goals, and then a few months/years down the line (as part of their original plan) launch a second round to fund additional goals and further project development? Just wondering if this is a thing, if so please provide me with some links to projects that have done so.

It certainly a good idea because many projects failed because they aim to high or do not have clear plans to expand their project. Multiple rounds of crowd funding enables the investors have a "practice" investment to try the wellness of the project. It is also a good way of showing that cryptocurrencies are not a ponzi scheme or a scam because the devs are not after your money. Multiple rounds of launching also makes the coin constantly relevant to the market.

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Quote from: Rockie1234 on July 27, 2019, 04:18:54 PM

Have you heard of ICOs with multiple rounds? Like they raise a certain amount of money now, use that money for primary aims and goals, and then a few months/years down the line (as part of their original plan) launch a second round to fund additional goals and further project development? Just wondering if this is a thing, if so please provide me with some links to projects that have done so.

It is like the soft opening of a business venture. This strategy can help them gain the interest of the potential investors. It is kind of normal for new projects that do not want to make unrealistic promises to their investors by only aiming for small objectives that will add up in the end. It is a good way to ensure that the project do not just want your money, it wants to be part of the development of the coin.

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Quote from: cichaescut on October 21, 2019, 07:41:06 AM

First of all, they may start on a bear market and finish of bull market.

What do you mean by this sentence? The duration of ICOs? Or The phases of working on a project as a whole?
I think a quality project mustn't depend on market trends. It can continue improving with smart plans, own funds, and community support.

Quote from: TimeTeller on November 03, 2019, 05:50:46 PM

Multiple round of ICOs is good as long as the project is showing great progress after each round of collecting their funds.

I can agree with you a bit. If a project creates regular updates and lets the community + investors know the current achievement, it is no problem. However, regarding the achievement of ICO's rounds, most projects are not open to the community. They just announced to have other rounds after the first one was over, then no updates related to how much they get the funds.

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Quote from: travwill on November 03, 2019, 05:43:36 PM

What you are talking about looks like a fraudulent scheme. As a rule, the project announces in advance how many rounds of fundraising will be carried out, and after that, having gained a certain capitalization, the project begins to work at full capacity, with no additional fees being spent.
An example of what you are talking about is the MiracleTele project. After successful fees, the project still sells coins that have already depreciated to impossible numbers.

To do so many rounds of fundaraising is a fraudulent scheme, that means the developer has no vision to develop its product. A single guy like George hozt is enough to create an autonomous driving mode for less than 1k dollar. The ico that conducts so many rounds of fundaraising was totally non sense thing.
they are a greedy bastard who is looking for money only and they have no competence to develop anything.

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Quote from: Rockie1234 on July 27, 2019, 04:18:54 PM

Have you heard of ICOs with multiple rounds? Like they raise a certain amount of money now, use that money for primary aims and goals, and then a few months/years down the line (as part of their original plan) launch a second round to fund additional goals and further project development? Just wondering if this is a thing, if so please provide me with some links to projects that have done so.

I found only 3 types of multiple round ICOs. One is as you said second round for additional goals, Cinemadrom is the same types of campaign I think. Some projects runs ICO by top coins like BTC round, Ethereum round and XRP round to additional goals. Third is simple like sperate the whole term of project run by several round. I'm not doing any types of campaign until something interesting in their project.

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Quote from: travwill on November 03, 2019, 05:43:36 PM

What you are talking about looks like a fraudulent scheme. As a rule, the project announces in advance how many rounds of fundraising will be carried out, and after that, having gained a certain capitalization, the project begins to work at full capacity, with no additional fees being spent.
An example of what you are talking about is the MiracleTele project. After successful fees, the project still sells coins that have already depreciated to impossible numbers.

I think MiracleTele is one good example of a project driven by greed of the developers.
They have no shame to grab money from those investors and disappeared once they took their share.
I don't think they can salvage this platform.

https://www.publish0x.com/cryptosoup/miracletele-urgent-update-financial-troubles-and-staff-losse-xxznvp

Multiple round of ICOs is good as long as the project is showing great progress after each round of collecting their funds.
But would be best if they can deliver their objectives ahead of time.

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What you are talking about looks like a fraudulent scheme. As a rule, the project announces in advance how many rounds of fundraising will be carried out, and after that, having gained a certain capitalization, the project begins to work at full capacity, with no additional fees being spent.
An example of what you are talking about is the MiracleTele project. After successful fees, the project still sells coins that have already depreciated to impossible numbers.

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Quote from: ringgo96 on October 21, 2019, 09:49:30 AM

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Yes but investors are usually not interested with those many rounds ICO.
Because sometimes the coins/tokens from ICO like that is too long to enter exchange, they will listing on exchanges when all the ICOs ends

And when entering the market usually also disappointing. some projects even experienced a significant price decline when after experiencing a launch on the stock exchange. is this a natural thing? because of course we do not want to get a loss from the investment that we do but precisely this time due to ICO all get losses

But if ico is done with multiple round, then the time to analyze a project will be more and you can see the progress of the project to the end of the investment limit, and if the research has good results you can invest in the last part of the ico period even though you don't get a lot of bonus but your research will be more maximal than in the fast-running ico, so you will have more difficulty analyzing it

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Yes but investors are usually not interested with those many rounds ICO.
Because sometimes the coins/tokens from ICO like that is too long to enter exchange, they will listing on exchanges when all the ICOs ends

And when entering the market usually also disappointing. some projects even experienced a significant price decline when after experiencing a launch on the stock exchange. is this a natural thing? because of course we do not want to get a loss from the investment that we do but precisely this time due to ICO all get losses

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It is a common thing that projects are trying to raise money in phases. First of all, they may start on a bear market and finish of bull market. This is the core idea to do so, but in general the most ICOs are likely to fail, even if they are collecting funds during the whole year.

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