My Avalon A921 is on the way - page 6.

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Quote from: mgoz on December 19, 2018, 03:10:41 PM

https://canaan.io/downloads/software/avalon921/mm/nexttesting/2018-10-25/

thanks

I have

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Controller Firmware
Version 20180926

MM Firmware
Version 9211809-b150820

so to upgrade MM firmware

I need to load

MM921.mcs

or

MM921.bit

okay MM921.mcs it is

I now have

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Controller Firmware
Version 20180926

MM Firmware
9211809-b4b3d00

so up to date I think

watts meter burnt at 1880 watt levels

so we will use the Vo

below instead of watts.

doing

--avalon9-voltage-level 1

api reads

Code:

Fan[6150]
   FanR[73%]
   Vi[1199 1199 1196 1196]
   Vo[4134 4153 4123 4110] Note still high due to that level 1 setting
   GHSmm[20527.05]
   WU[279617.92]
   Freq[771.00]

hash is 21143 will give 1 hour number
watts 1875 new meter
so I won't push it and test at level 0 next (no 2-15)

doing

--avalon9-voltage-level 0 note this is frodocooper's recommendation

Code:

Fan[5700]
   FanR[69%]
   Vi[1199 1199 1196 1196]
   Vo[4120 4138 4109 4096] Note drop due to 0 setting
   GHSmm[20496.36]
   WU[266040.52]
   Freq[769.85]

watts 1848
hash 20498 this is good about 90 watts a th. so far frodocoopers setting's seem to be more efficient then any number I can find.

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Voltage Offset(Default: 0) -2

Minimum Fan%(Range: 0-100, Default: 10%) 40

More Options --avalon9-voltage-level 0 --avalon9-voltage-level-offset -2

onto

--avalon9-voltage-level -1 in theory should not work but I did get some watts improvement with it earlier

api

Code:

Fan[6720]
   FanR[100%]
   Vi[1199 1199 1196 1196]
   Vo[4106 4125 4095 4082] this dropped
   GHSmm[5814.17]
   WU[270523.35]
   Freq[218.38] this is auto tune

api again

Code:

Fan[6420]
   FanR[77%]
   Vi[1198 1198 1195 1195]
   Vo[4103 4121 4092 4078] this does go lower due to -1 setting
   GHSmm[20363.37]
   WU[251734.38]
   Freq[764.85] auto tune settles at 764 vs 770

   Fan[4950]
   FanR[59%]
   Vi[1198 1198 1195 1195]
   Vo[4103 4121 4090 4079]
   GHSmm[20574.96]
   WU[274505.25]
   Freq[772.80] third api shows higher freq of 772 this is promising!

   Fan[4800]
   FanR[57%]
   Vi[1199 1199 1196 1196]
   Vo[4107 4125 4093 4081]
   GHSmm[20726.50]
   WU[265918.54]
   Freq[778.49] 4th api show even higher freq I am guessing it will boot again

   Fan[7980]
   FanR[99%]
   Vi[1199 1199 1196 1196]
   Vo[4107 4125 4095 4083]
   GHSmm[14188.97]
   WU[254481.80]
   Freq[532.94] she booted on the 5th

   FanR[77%]
   Vi[1198 1198 1195 1195]
   Vo[4103 4121 4092 4079]
   GHSmm[20366.56]
   WU[287139.79]
   Freq[764.97] the 6th goes up

   Fan[5670]
   FanR[69%]
   Vi[1200 1200 1196 1196]
   Vo[4103 4121 4091 4078]
   GHSmm[20359.37]
   WU[251484.82]
   Freq[764.70] may become stable

   FanR[64%]
   Vi[1199 1199 1196 1196]
   Vo[4106 4125 4095 4080]
   GHSmm[20424.57]
   WU[260692.44]
   Freq[767.15]

   Fan[5130]
   FanR[60%]
   Vi[1198 1198 1196 1196]
   Vo[4103 4123 4092 4079]
   GHSmm[20475.54]
   WU[259674.50]
   Freq[769.06]

   Fan[4860]
   FanR[58%]
   Vi[1199 1199 1196 1196]
   Vo[4106 4125 4095 4082]
   GHSmm[20552.25]
   WU[253437.01]
   Freq[771.94]

   Fan[4770]
   FanR[57%]
   Vi[1199 1199 1195 1195]
   Vo[4105 4125 4093 4081]
   GHSmm[20614.52]
   WU[263749.80]
   Freq[774.28]

   Fan[4950]
   FanR[59%]
   Vi[1199 1199 1196 1196]
   Vo[4106 4125 4096 4082]
   GHSmm[20683.68]
   WU[268638.03]
   Freq[776.88]

   Fan[4860]
   FanR[58%]
   Vi[1198 1198 1196 1196]
   Vo[4105 4123 4096 4080]
   GHSmm[20706.50]
   WU[268868.81]
   Freq[777.74]

   Fan[4860]
   FanR[58%]
   Vi[1198 1198 1195 1195]
   Vo[4103 4123 4092 4080]
   GHSmm[20740.38]
   WU[267768.33]
   Freq[779.01] and she boots at the next jump

   Fan[6720]
   FanR[80%]
   Vi[1198 1198 1196 1196]
   Vo[4105 4124 4095 4081]
   GHSmm[20442.42]
   WU[231051.69]
   Freq[767.82]

so if you use api you can follow auto tuning and the -1 setting I used does not like to go past freq 780
It does get power down to 1816 watts question is will it settle over an hour or so giving good numbers and not lots of boots.

The auto tune is not working that well as least as I see it.

I set to

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Voltage Offset(Default:0) -2

Minimum Fan%(Range: 0-100, Default: 10%) 40

More Options --avalon9-voltage-level -3 --avalon9-voltage-level-offset -2

so that number gets good power in terms of watts 1782

Code:

Temp[31]
   TMax[94]
   Fan[4710]
   FanR[56%]
   Vi[1200 1200 1197 1197]
   Vo[4078 4097 4066 4054] note lowest api number
   GHSmm[20444.68]
   WU[257729.67]
   Freq[767.90] and freq is 767 and it always try to go higher .

I would love to see if it gets stable using the -1 or -2 or -3
rather then it always trying to reach for a higher freq

Also it I do 1760 watts at freq 767

or do 1871 watts at freq 782 the eff is better with the lower freq so I would save power.

but it wants to keep pushing. I will leave it be at -3 for now.

power = 1779 watts

freq = 768 and it just booted

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https://canaan.io/downloads/software/avalon921/mm/nexttesting/2018-10-25/

philipma1957

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Quote from: mgoz on December 19, 2018, 02:32:34 PM

If you're on the September firmware, fan speed settings might not actually do anything or speed may report incorrectly. The October firmware says it's an update to detect fan speed. Stock, looks like these are 10% less efficient than advertised unless you consider their 0-20% power consumption increase. Should be advertised as 20TH/s @ 2000w.

links for october firmware please

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If you're on the September firmware, fan speed settings might not actually do anything or speed may report incorrectly. The October firmware says it's an update to detect fan speed. Stock, looks like these are 10% less efficient than advertised unless you consider their 0-20% power consumption increase. Should be advertised as 20TH/s @ 2000w.

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Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on December 19, 2018, 02:11:44 PM

... Near the top the line for Vi tells you actual PSU voltage at the PCIe connectors and Vo is the core voltage regulator outputs for each board. Vo will change with changes you make in voltage level and voltage offset.

[...]

That's awesome I never really put that together. I honestly only ever briefly considered it, mostly as a point for troubleshooting.

I'm wondering if they are working on a high-efficiency firmware for the 9 series as well. That is the name of the game ATM, mind you they would likely want to wait that out until after/if they release the mythical 941 - What I expect was the original 9 series numbers released.

I can't recall but with the -voltage-level would it be presumed that no command you are at a 0 essentially, then anything from 1-15 would be an increase? I get that at some point there will probably be a sweetspot for hash and efficiency in there, but in general won't this increase overall power consumption.

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okay

--avalon9-voltage-level -7

Code:

Fan[4710]
   FanR[56%]
   Vi[1200 1200 1197 1197]
   Vo[4021 4038 4010 3999]
   GHSmm[20671.68]
   WU[215012.84]
   Freq[776.43]

watts 1756
hash 14157 after 30 minutes I will come back to it. and give 1 hour hash
hash 13978 after 52 minutes

--avalon9-voltage-level 1

Code:

Fan[6330]
   FanR[76%]
   Vi[1199 1199 1196 1196]
   Vo[4134 4152 4123 4111] so changing voltage level from -7 to 1 did this
   GHSmm[20711.42]
   WU[289508.49]
   Freq[777.92]

watts are now 1871

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You can look at the CGMiner API Log to record exactly what those voltage and voltage offset changes do. Near the top the line for Vi tells you actual PSU voltage at the PCIe connectors and Vo is the core voltage regulator outputs for each board. Vo will change with changes you make in voltage level and voltage offset.

Give things a 10-15min and you also see the miner freq it ends up running at. eg, my oldest one running stock gives

Code:

Temp[39]
   TMax[95]
   Fan[5910]
   FanR[72%]
   Vi[1195 1195 1188 1188]
   Vo[4068 4100 4129 4118]
   GHSmm[21468.46]
   WU[289826.24]
   Freq[806.36]
   PG[15]

As you change Vo you will see that Freq also changes as the miner automajikly plays with it to produce best speed results for those voltage settings.

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right now I am getting very good numbers with this setting

1811 watts and 19600 hash

I know it may say -2 is not included in the range for voltage level but it does lower watts more then 0 does.

in the case of the a841 we got some very good results doing this
in the case of the 851 results were shitty doing this.

I will do all 15 in range 0 to 15
I will do 10 out of range -10 to -1

I will keep fan at 40 - 100

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Minimum Fan%(Range: 0-100, Default: 10%) 40

More Options --avalon9-voltage-level-offset -2 will not change

--avalon9-voltage-level -2 42 minute result 1850 watts and 18973 hash
--avalon9-voltage-level -7 next up

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For fans, in More Options you can use --avalon9-fan to set both the minimum and maximum speeds eg. --avalon9-fan 50-75 sets min speed to 50% and max to 75%. That of course also applies to the A7xx and A8xx miners as well.

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so I did this:

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Minimum Fan 40%
More options --avalon9-voltage-level 0 --avalon9-voltage-level-offset -2

I will get back with numbers

so processes look like this

Code:

cgminer --lowmem --avalon9-fan 40-100 --avalon9-voltage-level-offset 0 -o stratum+tcp://mmpool.org:3334 -O philipma1957.B:x -o stratum+tcp://stratum80.kano.is:80 -O canaan.80:1234 -o stratum+tcp://stratum81.kano.is:81 -O canaan.81:1234 --api-allow W:127.0.0.1 --api-listen --avalon9-voltage-level 0 --avalon9-voltage-level-offset -2 --real-quiet

and watts are worse not better. 1836 watts will play with it some more

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And like the 721/841's can also set max freq and fan speed as well. Frankly, I never toyed with the settings when I got my first 2 back in Oct. Just plugged them in and let'em run.

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Cool to see you buying one and testing it out.

Does changing the value for --avalon9-voltage-level-offset make the power efficiency any better?

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The --avalon9-voltage-level command-line option does not accept values of less than 0. In other words, your chosen value of -7 is an invalid value, and therefore may not be having any significant effect on your A921's efficiency.

According to lines 1643 to 1645 of cgminer.c from the avalon9 branch of Canaan's cgminer repository, the range of integer values that is accepted by --avalon9-voltage-level is 0 to 15:

Code:

OPT_WITH_CBARG("--avalon9-voltage-level",
set_avalon9_voltage_level, NULL, &opt_set_avalon9_voltage_level,
"Set Avalon9 default level of core voltage, range:[0, 15], step: 1"),

I therefore suggest using --avalon9-voltage-level 0 and --avalon9-voltage-level-offset -2 simultaneously if you're looking to run your A921 at the lowest possible voltage level.

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Edit 1783 watts doing 18123 gh

using this setting

--avalon9-voltage-level -7

decent about 98 watts a th but I am hoping for better

at stock it was 2020 watts doing 20500
it is a lot of hash for under 400 ssd but you don't get good efficiency.

this is an industrial miner needs 240 volts for 1 psu or 2 separate circuits for 2 psus if 120 volts
it is loud.
I am hoping for better firmware.
I will tweak it more , but I do not like results so far. It is very close to the s9i in efficiency but does more hash with more power.

13700 hash 1250 watts s9i on LPM

I may be getting better numbers with the second rasp pi firmware

I can drop watts from 2020 to 1731 with this setting

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Minimum Fan%(Range: 0-100, Default: 10%) 30

More Options --avalon9-voltage-level -7

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I am behind you @ 6656. Started a chat yesterday and I was told a few more days to ship. It will not be here for Christmas, but I am hoping by New Years. Time will tell.

philipma1957

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psu issue it is now using a pair of bitmain apw3+ and works!

trying down clock with this setting

Configuration

Please visit https://canaan.io/support/ for support.

NTP Service(Default: Disable)

Pool 1

Pool1 worker

Pool1 password

Pool 2

Pool2 worker

Pool2 password

Pool 3

Pool3 worker

Pool3 password

Voltage Offset(Default: 0)

Minimum Fan%(Range: 0-100, Default: 10%) 30

API Allow(Default: W:127.0.0.1)

More Options --avalon9-voltage-level -2

all other settings are stock

downclock results with first rasp pi are poor watts are about 2020 stock setting
I got watts to drop to 1800 but hash dropped more then it should of.

so say 2020 watts give 19th
or 1800 watts give 17th

basically shit gear on first attempt at down clocks.

I moved onto newer firmware will get back with numbers

stock was 2052 watts and 20 th on new rasp pi

first down clock used

--avalon9-voltage-level -1

watts dropped to 1932 will get back with a hash number

20.5 th so far so newer rasp pi seems better

1932/20500 = 94 watts a th not close to a m10 2400/34000 = 70.5 watts a th

but cheap 2 units = 790 plus psus say 1000 or 1100 for 40th

an m10 from li is 890 plus tax and shipping or 1200 for 34th

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My orders are still processing and past ship date. My first order was #6611. What were your guys order numbers? Curious if they are shipping by when the orders were placed or not. Hoping Canaan also offers some low power firmware.

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have a issue could be usb cable which does both power and signal is defective I am dropping connection between auc and miner.

this is an example

psu issue it is now using a pair of bitmain apw3+ and works!

trying down clock with this setting

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Minimum Fan%(Range: 0-100, Default: 10%) 30

More Options --avalon9-voltage-level -2

all other settings are stock

downclock results with first rasp pi are poor watts are about 2020 stock setting
I got watts to drop to 1800 but hash dropped more then it should of.

so say 2020 watts give 19th
or 1800 watts give 17th

basically shit gear on first attempt at down clocks.

I moved onto newer firmware will get back with numbers

stock was 2052 watts and 20 th on new rasp pi

first down clock used

--avalon9-voltage-level -1

watts dropped to 1932 will get back with a hash number

20.5 th so far so newer rasp pi seems better

1932/20500 = 94 watts a th not close to a m10 2400/34000 = 70.5 watts a th

but cheap 2 units = 790 plus psus say 1000 or 1100 for 40th

an m10 from li is 890 plus tax and shipping or 1200 for 34th

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Do be sure that the cable is for both power and data... Very common issue is no coms because of folks using a charging cable that uses all 4 wires for power...

How common is that? Common enough that Blokforge now supplies the USB cable when you buy a AUC3 dongle.

philipma1957

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got it thanks

doing original the sept 18th first.

flashed with etcher and my mac mini

new flash works and I will move to next step need a micro usb cord to the dongle

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