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Quote from: citronick on September 07, 2016, 03:11:34 PM

XMR and ETH

after full 36 hours mining XMR at NC and Dwarfpool, looks like its about the same after converting to BTC vs ETH

However:

1. Difficulty in ETH is growing at crazy rate, and expect less and less ETH per 24 hours mining.

2. XMR difficulty is also growing but still not as big as ETH, expect this to grow (think ETH end 2015).

3. XMR price can go higher as "privacy, security and anonymity" become more in demand vs Bitcoin.

4. ETH price going higher?..... after the DAO mess, not too sure about going up any sooner...

5. ETH will go POS next year, XMR is POW forever --- so XMR as a long term mining choice is good.

6. XMR has a memory intensive algo - so I hope this Cryptonight algo doesnt end up on an ASICS chip

7. XMR GPU mining is AMD centric and that means.... our existing ETH rigs can be recycled.

All is true, but

SIA is on rally now

ETC is slightly more profitable than ETH

So dual mining, even with higher energy consumption is more profitable than XMR. It is now

If you are going to mine XMR and stash them - that may payoff big time in future. Or may not - if it is a bubble

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XMR and ETH

after full 36 hours mining XMR at NC and Dwarfpool, looks like its about the same after converting to BTC vs ETH

However:

1. Difficulty in ETH is growing at crazy rate, and expect less and less ETH per 24 hours mining.

2. XMR difficulty is also growing but still not as big as ETH, expect this to grow (think ETH end 2015).

3. XMR price can go higher as "privacy, security and anonymity" become more in demand vs Bitcoin.

4. ETH price going higher?..... after the DAO mess, not too sure about going up any sooner...

5. ETH will go POS next year, XMR is POW forever --- so XMR as a long term mining choice is good.

6. XMR has a memory intensive algo - so I hope this Cryptonight algo doesnt end up on an ASICS chip

7. XMR GPU mining is AMD centric and that means.... our existing ETH rigs can be recycled.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on September 06, 2016, 06:05:29 PM

Quote from: xleejohnx on September 06, 2016, 05:31:53 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on September 06, 2016, 04:28:35 PM

Quote from: adaseb on September 06, 2016, 12:32:20 PM

Crazy how you started with that little 7970 rig back in April and now you are up to 22 GPUs.

Well these coins mine easier then btc did back in the day.

The stability of the rigs has been decent..

I had one issue with all the gear I shorted one mobo trying to stuff it in a case.

When I ran 23 gpus back in 2012 I was pushing 5-6 K-watts

Eth and xmr are not as harsh. On gpus
Btc was hard on gpus.

I don't overclock my gpus so it,is,not,that,loud just a bit too hot.

I actually want to do more rigs but for. Now it is too hot.

I'm in the same boat. I want more gpus but dang it's hot outside(Florida) so I don't what it hot inside too. End of this month I'll set up some more

yeah NJ has been really freaking hot this year.

Back to these coins. ETH and XMR I am spending .18 cents a kwatt and still making money.

On Oct 1 I drop to 9 cents for power.

I think I will go from 22 to 28 gpus then last the winter. With that.

how is the xmr looking for you vs just keeping all eth? Did you lose or gain

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Quote from: xleejohnx on September 06, 2016, 05:31:53 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on September 06, 2016, 04:28:35 PM

Quote from: adaseb on September 06, 2016, 12:32:20 PM

Crazy how you started with that little 7970 rig back in April and now you are up to 22 GPUs.

Well these coins mine easier then btc did back in the day.

The stability of the rigs has been decent..

I had one issue with all the gear I shorted one mobo trying to stuff it in a case.

When I ran 23 gpus back in 2012 I was pushing 5-6 K-watts

Eth and xmr are not as harsh. On gpus
Btc was hard on gpus.

I don't overclock my gpus so it,is,not,that,loud just a bit too hot.

I actually want to do more rigs but for. Now it is too hot.

I'm in the same boat. I want more gpus but dang it's hot outside(Florida) so I don't what it hot inside too. End of this month I'll set up some more

yeah NJ has been really freaking hot this year.

Back to these coins. ETH and XMR I am spending .18 cents a kwatt and still making money.

On Oct 1 I drop to 9 cents for power.

I think I will go from 22 to 28 gpus then last the winter. With that.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on September 06, 2016, 04:28:35 PM

Quote from: adaseb on September 06, 2016, 12:32:20 PM

Crazy how you started with that little 7970 rig back in April and now you are up to 22 GPUs.

Well these coins mine easier then btc did back in the day.

The stability of the rigs has been decent..

I had one issue with all the gear I shorted one mobo trying to stuff it in a case.

When I ran 23 gpus back in 2012 I was pushing 5-6 K-watts

Eth and xmr are not as harsh. On gpus
Btc was hard on gpus.

I don't overclock my gpus so it,is,not,that,loud just a bit too hot.

I actually want to do more rigs but for. Now it is too hot.

I'm in the same boat. I want more gpus but dang it's hot outside(Florida) so I don't what it hot inside too. End of this month I'll set up some more

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Quote from: adaseb on September 06, 2016, 12:32:20 PM

Crazy how you started with that little 7970 rig back in April and now you are up to 22 GPUs.

Well these coins mine easier then btc did back in the day.

The stability of the rigs has been decent..

I had one issue with all the gear I shorted one mobo trying to stuff it in a case.

When I ran 23 gpus back in 2012 I was pushing 5-6 K-watts

Eth and xmr are not as harsh. On gpus
Btc was hard on gpus.

I don't overclock my gpus so it,is,not,that,loud just a bit too hot.

I actually want to do more rigs but for. Now it is too hot.

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Crazy how you started with that little 7970 rig back in April and now you are up to 22 GPUs.

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Quote from: citronick on September 06, 2016, 11:59:00 AM

Quote from: Tmdz on September 06, 2016, 09:57:55 AM

The problem im seeing with Monero mining is that it seems very hard to earn anywhere near the estimated amounts. Im estimated to earn about .6 xmr on this rig but I only earned about .4 in a 24 hr period. Maybe this is due to the big variations of network hashrates, but 30+% variance is just crazy and unreliable for a miner. I have noticed similar under performance the last 3-4 days as well.

How has the xmr mining been for you ?

On etc and eth I can earn very close to projected amounts, with very little variance.

Random thoughts:

XMR price is higher than ETH, ETC = more profit when you convert to cash
Diff level for ETH is in the "gedzillions" --- see whattomine.com
Think ETH in the last 3 month of 2015 -- its all about timing and the early bird
XMR is hot at the moment - so why not use the same gear to mine a higher price coin?
I think XMR will be good short term strategy for profit taking - helps me ROI my gear faster
If I would to convert all my ETH gear to XMR, I would do it.... Shocked

... anything is possible in the GPU mining world!

i am up to 21 gpus

13 eth 8 xmr
I order another gpu
So,I will be up to 22 gpus.

I am nearing my heat limit in house.

If it were late October I could go,to 30 gpus
I think I will not order more gpus for a little bit longrt

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Quote from: Tmdz on September 06, 2016, 09:57:55 AM

The problem im seeing with Monero mining is that it seems very hard to earn anywhere near the estimated amounts. Im estimated to earn about .6 xmr on this rig but I only earned about .4 in a 24 hr period. Maybe this is due to the big variations of network hashrates, but 30+% variance is just crazy and unreliable for a miner. I have noticed similar under performance the last 3-4 days as well.

How has the xmr mining been for you ?

On etc and eth I can earn very close to projected amounts, with very little variance.

Random thoughts:

XMR price is higher than ETH, ETC = more profit when you convert to cash
Diff level for ETH is in the "gedzillions" --- see whattomine.com
Think ETH in the last 3 month of 2015 -- its all about timing and the early bird
XMR is hot at the moment - so why not use the same gear to mine a higher price coin?
I think XMR will be good short term strategy for profit taking - helps me ROI my gear faster
If I would to convert all my ETH gear to XMR, I would do it.... Shocked

... anything is possible in the GPU mining world!

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The problem im seeing with Monero mining is that it seems very hard to earn anywhere near the estimated amounts. Im estimated to earn about .6 xmr on this rig but I only earned about .4 in a 24 hr period. Maybe this is due to the big variations of network hashrates, but 30+% variance is just crazy and unreliable for a miner. I have noticed similar under performance the last 3-4 days as well.

How has the xmr mining been for you ?

On etc and eth I can earn very close to projected amounts, with very little variance.

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Quote from: ps_jb on September 04, 2016, 05:13:39 PM

Quote from: citronick on September 04, 2016, 04:07:19 PM

set GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100

NsGpuCNMiner.exe -tt 88 -dbg -1 -a 4 -h 1376 -o stratum+tcp://cryptonight.usa.nicehash.com:3355 -u -p x

pause

Thank you!

However I cannot create a pool/miner record in my nicehash account - strange...

https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=miners&addr=

then.... click on "Cryptonight" to see all your workers. All the stats are there.

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Quote from: citronick on September 04, 2016, 04:07:19 PM

set GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100

NsGpuCNMiner.exe -tt 88 -dbg -1 -a 4 -h 1376 -o stratum+tcp://cryptonight.usa.nicehash.com:3355 -u -p x

pause

Thank you!

However I cannot create a pool/miner record in my nicehash account - strange...

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Quote from: ps_jb on September 04, 2016, 03:08:51 PM

Quote from: citronick on September 04, 2016, 12:00:12 PM

according to Claymore's FAQ, 290x optimum -h value is 1372, so i followed this a base for my 390.
I you start at 1372, technically the 480 may be able throttle higher... IMHO

Could you please share your command line you are using?

I will try with my rig

set GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100

NsGpuCNMiner.exe -tt 88 -dbg -1 -a 4 -h 1376 -o stratum+tcp://cryptonight.usa.nicehash.com:3355 -u -p x

pause

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Quote from: citronick on September 04, 2016, 12:00:12 PM

according to Claymore's FAQ, 290x optimum -h value is 1372, so i followed this a base for my 390.
I you start at 1372, technically the 480 may be able throttle higher... IMHO

Could you please share your command line you are using?

I will try with my rig

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Quote from: BTCBusinessConsult on September 04, 2016, 11:32:36 AM

Do you have any experience with the -h value to use for 480s? Best I can get is 640 h/s on stock settings using -h 1024

according to Claymore's FAQ, 290x optimum -h value is 1372, so i followed this a base for my 390.
I you start at 1372, technically the 480 may be able throttle higher... IMHO

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Quote from: LoneRangir on September 04, 2016, 11:38:17 AM

You guys should continue to move more rigs over to XMR. It's helping the ETH difficulty 😉

LOL... nice try!

One of the small ETH farm I know shared with me that their 3.3GH/s farm, use to get 5 payments per day at ethpool, now with recent difficulty level moving even higher, they only get 4 payments a day.

Imagine that.... for us small timers, how to keep up?

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You guys should continue to move more rigs over to XMR. It's helping the ETH difficulty 😉

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Do you have any experience with the -h value to use for 480s? Best I can get is 640 h/s on stock settings using -h 1024

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Guys... I made up my mind and gone to Nicehash, pays once a day direct to BTC.

----begin-batch file-----
set GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
NsGpuCNMiner.exe -o stratum+tcp://cryptonight.usa.nicehash.com:3355 -u -p x
pause
----end-batch-file-----

One of strongest rig and the first rig I built for ETH in January is now mining XMR.

5 x MSI-R9-390 8GB

~~3630-3650 hash/s~~

Seems Claymore miner can push the 390s more aggressively using -a 4 swicth (for faster GPUs) and -h 1372 (I used the 290x value)

now.... 4330 hash/s

According to Nicehash, 0.0183 BTC per day.... with BTC going up... I think we have a winner here!

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As usual the early bird gets the worm, and the little birds had 2 years to horde all the worms they wanted for this huge jump in value. But who would have guessed that all the drug addicts and dealers would have started using Monero as their payment of choice. Cheesy

Anyway now that XMR is thrown into the mix of commercially mined coins, profit is basically the same across the board. I do notice that XMR algo is much more efficient in regards to power usage, especially on my 290s. The sound level in my shop from the fans has dropped in half which is a bit of mind freak.

Id be interested to see how the efficiency compares to ethash, I have yet to put a watt meter on my rig.

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