Topic: My second ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos. - page 33. (Read 148003 times)

How can a process execute anything when you get a BSOD? Sure it's possible for hanging cards and other weird issues however when a kernel panic occurs, I'm not sure any new process execution can occur.

Ethman watchdog watches for issues during mining.

It can restart the claymore miner when it encounter issues.

In the event that "- r 1" is set and you have a valid "reboot.bat" file, Ethman launches the reboot batch file which will in turn "force reboot" your rig.

So in this case, any critical panic triggered from watchdog will execute batch file because you set the "-r 1". In my case, this is my preference.... which I think you need to do if you want a 24x7 rig that reboots itself if something bad happens; ie. BSOD

I've now completed all the code to automatically switch to whichever coin is most profitable.

To answer your question:

If you look at prices for ZEC/XMR/ETC/ETH, there's no real MAJOR hard ups or downs in terms of pricing.. It's either a slow increase or decrease.. (yes, there are exceptions to this rule but in the long term, everything averages out). Most of the profitability switching comes from network difficulty either dropping or increasing.

Since I mine directly to the exchange:

I'm busy with the code now to poll / connect to the exchange's API, check all balances and immediately sell any coin that is available at the current sell order rates.

I can just keep buying rigs / video cards and know that as I get more hash rate, it will get more and more accurate / profitable.
It's too tedious doing things manually .. This way I can go on holiday, spend time with the family and thanks to the monitoring system, I will only be alerted when processes are not running or switching isn't working correctly.

The joy of opensource software

Thanks for following my case !
The bluescreen is something I get on any of my rx470 rigs ! all rigs sometimes have it ...
They can mine for days without any problem.
But if a GPU hang, miner restart , and I get blue screen (showing driver failure) , and a reboot.
So when I come back , I have y desktop ready but iddle. I will try your advice to get claymore run after any windows boot.
It should help a lot !

In my case, I guess the blue screen is linked to risers and/or overclocking.
I have H81 pro BTC with 4 or 4 gb DDR and all moded RX470 (5 to 6 per rig)
I'm on the way to change all my powered ribbon riser to usb ones. Would be better I think.

I still have a diffculty to understand what is the difference with the reboot batch file launched by ethman (not used yet) , and the watchdog feature that restart miner ?

Hometal, how do you deal with the sale right time ?
Mining when it's more profitable (less difficulty or better price) is obviously good, but it takes time to get the mined coins to a wallet and from my experience, when you are ready to sell, profitability has changed (mostly price as coins are already mined) and you don't earn what you expected.
Have you find a way to improve ?

Not just that but people tend to leave the settings standard on http://www.whattomine.com/.

Everyone must measure their hash rate and power usage (at the wall!) and enter in the values there.
Even then, the profitability swings continuously as prices and network difficultly fluctuates.

If you play some "move and pull" games on the HD/FD brackets, you can mount a couple of 120x38 Delta fans in the front of that case for some SERIOUS airflow.

 Mount one HD tray in the middle, pull the other 2 trays on fan low one fan high and a 25mm fan in the middle.

 Plenty of space on the back side behind the MB mounting tray for cable management too.



 I bought one of those on sale early this year, if I had to go back to using cases it would be one of my "seriously consider it for my go to case" options.

 Again, it depends on your specific hardware and electric costs.

 Be sure to out YOUR numbers in, some of THEIR numbers are a bit on the "optimistic" side.


 I'm showing my pair of RX 470s to be more profitable on ZEC at the moment, but they're stock and don't mine ETH real well - and even then it's CLOSE.

 1070s - hands down ZEC via nicehash most of the time, but something else pops up occaisonally.

 HD 7870s are hand-down ZEC, but they're 2GB cards and about out of the ability to mine ETH at all.
 Ditto the little HD 7750s.

 My GTX 950s/960s seem to not like either most of the time - think the 960s are mostly on libr and can't remember for sue on the 950s.


 Keep in mind that I have "fixed" energy cost at this time, I'm sure the next place I move to I'll have to start factoring in power usage again.

You can connect more GPUs using a PCIE riser cables. Like this: https://ru.aliexpress.com/item/PCI-E-PCI-E-Express-1X-to-16X-Riser-Card-USB-3-0-Extender-Cable-SATA/32742035476.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.5BxV06&detailNewVersion=&categoryId=200001097

So you should be able to install a 5 GPUs configuration in the same case. May be even 6.   1 or 2 cards can be installed right above the CPU in parallel to the MB.

A nice 25-mm 120x120 fan that I would recommend for your setup: https://ru.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-12025-high-speed-air-volume-fan-12-cm-1-24A-FFB1212SH-for-delta/32612064782.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.r5JxPM

p.s are those HDD/SSD racks removable?

My RX480's are underclocked and undervolted. Look more closely at the graphs and you will see spikes where ZEC is more profitable.
This has more to do with network difficulty dropping (you're getting more ZEC for the same hash rate and same price).


You're looking at the ZEC price and only using that as a benchmark and that's where you're going wrong.
As the price fluctuates, so does the difficulty as miners chop and change.


All my tests are done at the wall in terms of electricity usage and are extremely accurate.


I work around all ramp-up times with code.

Edit: To clarify: worst case ramp up time is ~20 seconds at most but the actual mining when switching is near instantaneous.

How is it possible that you show ZEC even even with ETH & XMR, much less slightly more profitable.  Given the current rates around $43/$8.10/$8.35, both ETH & XMR are considerably more profitable than ZEC... at least with RX 470's.  My understanding is that 480's get a bit more hashing power than 470s but consume more energy, so the profit ratio seems that it would be similar between the 2 cards, maybe a bit better for the 470s.  I could almost understand if you had something like 6x390x, given that those cards seem to be monsters on ZEC, but that doesn;t appear to be the case so Im a bit baffled.  I understand that everyone's rigs are different, but for me, the profitability isn't even close now with ZEC dropping under $43.  My profit from ETH is close to 2x ZEC and models indicate XMR could even be better, but I need more mining time with it to prove that out. My modelling indicated that if ETH & XMR stay in the $8-$9 range, ZEC would have to get back over $60 to rival their profitability.  Can't predict the future of course but seems much more likely ZEC will go lower than $30 before EOY than anywhere near $60, so I will likely be doing ETH/XMR for the foreseeable future.

Aside from the valuing issue, I am curious about something else.  I really like that auto-switching feature in theory but if values are quite close and switch often, wouldn't that many switched hurt productivity?  Meaning... my experience with both XMR and ZEC is that they take some time to ramp up to full speed.  I started mining XMR via Claymore GPU and it started low then continual increases, for several hours actually. Similar thing with ZEC although usually not as long.  ETH seem to get to max quickly but I would like that the ramp up time would hurt you with too many switches.

I've almost automated the entire process to mine whatever is the most profitable using a 5 minute rolling window average.



Just finishing the last bits of the code and then I can just sit back and watch. Manual switching is too tedious even with just 2 rigs.

You may need a fan upgrade for the case fans.


Scythe makes a 120 mm by 38 mm fan

3000 rpm moves a lot of air

Amazon has them.

** I will continue to update this posting as I get my images uploaded, and story straight   **

I told Phil I was migrating one of my open air bench-top rigs to an actual computer case.  He encouraged me to share some pics.  

This is our "favorite " Biostar Z170 board, and four reference 480s WITHOUT BACKPLATES. The lack of backplates in a back-to-back configuraiton is important to make sure the cards can get enough air to be cool, especially in an enclosed case.

I removed a few cables in the process.  I went from a 2.5" SATA drive to an m.2 drive.  

Here is a link to the Thermaltake case.  Note that is has 8 PCIe slots on the back. Most standard ATX cases have 7.  When I bought it, it was on sale for $65, and had a $20 rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133253


Here are couple "before" images:






Here is one with the board without the cards.  Nice, open case with plenty of room.  I could not hook up the front panel USB3, since the 4th card covers the header, and the cable is not that flexible.  Good thing the front panel power/reset leads are flexible. I'm not installing any 3.5" HDD, nor DVD drives.  It's quite bare inside.



The cards are installed.


I'm using a headless HDMI dongle to make sure the video come up upon reboots.  I'm going to put this thing in the garage and use a USB dongle to connect it to the internet.  It's -5 where I live, my wife said I can keep it in the house for now!

I'm last week with ETC - like how it is going

I am zec man till 2017.

then ?

Yes, this is exactly what I need to do as well. On a 4-GPU rig I use 600 watts mining either ETH and ZEC, but I need to change ETH hash-rates to a more reasonable 108 value and ZEC to 840. So the defaults are definitely way off.

Using my values from above, ETH currently shows it is earning about $0.75 more per day on this rig than it would on ZEC. The interesting thing is the ZEC network hash rate has kept rising over the past 24 hours, so not sure if site like What-to-mine influence this trend or not. I would think most miners shoudl be able to figure this basic error with the default values.

nice rig you guys have

I was on ZEC a few days ago, but have switched to ETH and realize a $1.04 Net Increase per 1300 SOLs over ZEC.

Yeah, there seems to be a big problem with the defaults on that site.

They have ZEC set at 630 HR using 660W, which is reasonably close to the 710H/610W i get from my 4-GPU rig.  But their ETH default H/R for equivalent wattage is WAY off!  They have only 48 MH/s for 660W but my 4-card rig is getting 108 with almost exactly that wattage.

So, if I change both to what I am getting on my rig, and bump the electricity to 11 cents, it shows ETH net profit of $2.83/day (about 25% higher than my own calc), while ZEC comes in at $1.46/day (about 20% higher than my calc).  Granted, my net calcs are probably a bit conservative since I am using peak wattage and the average is probably going to be a bit less, but either way, ETH is almost twice as profitable as ZEC at this point, at least for me.

I just started mining XMR with my 5-GPU rig, so will report back on that later. Initial speeds reported only about 2.8 Kh/s (not even 600 Mh/s per GPU) but it was still warming up... and I haven't tweaked the settings in Claymore at all yet, so will see how that turns out.