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sr. member
Activity: 475
Merit: 265
Ooh La La, C'est Zoom!
Yeah very nice to see that price creep up.  I finally eclipsed 1 ZEC with my modest 4-card rig and tempted to sell a bit of it now but in reality, I will probably just hold it. Not like selling half of it is going to make any real difference for me so might as well hold and see if it takes off.

I have most of what I need to build my 2nd rig when I get back in town next week, but only have 3 GPUs so hoping to find some good deals during the black friday/cyber monday craze.  Anyone know what kind of deals to expect on 470's?  I would highly prefer to stay with MSI 4GB but would consider other brands if the they are solid and a great deal. What would be considered maybe the 2 other top brands of this card along with MSI?  Sapphire I would assume is really good and I've heard bad things about PowerColor, but what about Asus & XFX?

Just looked at NewEgg and they have an MSI Radeon RX 470 DirectX 12 Radeon RX 470 ARMOR 4G OC 4GB for $169.99 plus there is a $20.00 mail-in rebate per card bringing the price to $149.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137050&ignorebbr=1

Using a variation on Phil's original bill of materials to build a mining rig (from earlier in this thread):

Qty | Item | Price | Rebate | Row Total
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legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
Yeah very nice to see that price creep up.  I finally eclipsed 1 ZEC with my modest 4-card rig and tempted to sell a bit of it now but in reality, I will probably just hold it. Not like selling half of it is going to make any real difference for me so might as well hold and see if it takes off.

I have most of what I need to build my 2nd rig when I get back in town next week, but only have 3 GPUs so hoping to find some good deals during the black friday/cyber monday craze.  Anyone know what kind of deals to expect on 470's?  I would highly prefer to stay with MSI 4GB but would consider other brands if the they are solid and a great deal. What would be considered maybe the 2 other top brands of this card along with MSI?  Sapphire I would assume is really good and I've heard bad things about PowerColor, but what about Asus & XFX?

here is a msi rx 470 for 200 - 15 discount instant  = 185  and a rebate which you may have done.

links coming

CHEERS2DEALS  $15 off code

https://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MSI-RX470G

rebate for 15
https://www.superbiiz.com/images/rebate/MSI-AMD-MIR-2016-1101_1130-Video%20Card-ALT-16939%20Channel.pdf


so 200 -15 = 185 - 15 = 170 + 5 to ship 175 net
sr. member
Activity: 600
Merit: 261
Yeah very nice to see that price creep up.  I finally eclipsed 1 ZEC with my modest 4-card rig and tempted to sell a bit of it now but in reality, I will probably just hold it. Not like selling half of it is going to make any real difference for me so might as well hold and see if it takes off.

I have most of what I need to build my 2nd rig when I get back in town next week, but only have 3 GPUs so hoping to find some good deals during the black friday/cyber monday craze.  Anyone know what kind of deals to expect on 470's?  I would highly prefer to stay with MSI 4GB but would consider other brands if the they are solid and a great deal. What would be considered maybe the 2 other top brands of this card along with MSI?  Sapphire I would assume is really good and I've heard bad things about PowerColor, but what about Asus & XFX?
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
Zec is doing a big time rally  now close to .108  up from .073


For me 0.400 zec a day = 0.0432 btc  at  739 usd = 32 usd a day

I use about 1900 watts so 2 x 24 = 48 kwatts  that is 6.10 a day  lets say the heat is worth 1.10  I spend 5 a day on power and 32 -5 = 27 profit a day x 30 = 810 a month.

I feel there are more then 150 companies that benefit from the success of this coin.

The market cap is small it is easy to feed money into exchanges to boos price of coin

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AddOn
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legendary
Activity: 1174
Merit: 1001
If anyone is interested I have the following below I will be selling soon.  Everything runs great I am just moving temporarily for work and won't be continuing to run this rig and maybe my other.

Biostar Racing Z170GT7 mobo
Intel Pentium G4400
Kingston HyperX FURY Black 8GB 2133MHz DDR4
(3) PowerColor RED DEVIL Radeon RX 470 4GBD5-3DH/OC 4GB
Sapphire Radeon RX 480 4GB
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 ATX12VPSU & EVGA SuperNOVA 650G1 ATX12V PSU

Please PM if there is any interest before I create a listing on the sales thread.
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

I sell the ZEC the moment it is in my exchange account. I reckon it will drop to 60-70% of current price due to the increased supply.

I stopped mining zec and went to Nicehash multi.
I'm getting the same pay all the way around right now (zec/xmr/eth)
And it's straight into my btc account


I thought the fee in the Nicehash renting service is 3%. So it that similar profitable to the mining directly?

The fee is 3%
But when you add in claymore fee selling at exchange fee withdraw fee
For me a small miner it's best to use nicehash ATM
The difference right now is 13 cents a card if I mine directly
hero member
Activity: 501
Merit: 500
Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

I sold everything on the market price every time I got the payment from flypool (0.01 ZEC).

This "strategy" worked from day 1.



So you make manual sales couple of time per day ?

In my case , I'm currently trying the auto-sell feature from bittrex, but I can't understand what rate they use for the sale. (is it the column "bid/ask" or the column "actual rate" when you look at the order history ?)
If someone use it and understood it, I would be glad to have an explaination.
jr. member
Activity: 132
Merit: 2
MR06Q8ZM3194
Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

I sell the ZEC the moment it is in my exchange account. I reckon it will drop to 60-70% of current price due to the increased supply.

I stopped mining zec and went to Nicehash multi.
I'm getting the same pay all the way around right now (zec/xmr/eth)
And it's straight into my btc account


I thought the fee in the Nicehash renting service is 3%. So it that similar profitable to the mining directly?
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

I sell the ZEC the moment it is in my exchange account. I reckon it will drop to 60-70% of current price due to the increased supply.

I stopped mining zec and went to Nicehash multi.
I'm getting the same pay all the way around right now (zec/xmr/eth)
And it's straight into my btc account
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

I sell the ZEC the moment it is in my exchange account. I reckon it will drop to 60-70% of current price due to the increased supply.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

I sold everything on the market price every time I got the payment from flypool (0.01 ZEC).

This "strategy" worked from day 1.



I vary on this  I do 1 sale a day.  I have grabbed a few bounces.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

I sold everything on the market price every time I got the payment from flypool (0.01 ZEC).

This "strategy" worked from day 1.

hero member
Activity: 501
Merit: 500
Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
For now I am doing about 180 for power and 558 for coins monthly  with zec

I like zec due to stable downclock undervolt

fans at 50% cards at 60c

300 watts on a 3 card rig

400 watts on a 4 card rig

I will stick with zec for now 

I know Eth may be the final choice.



I do have a 4 card rig on eth  580 watts stable 92 mh

I would move to eth soon but power could jump from

7.7 amps at 240 to 10 amps at 240
hero member
Activity: 501
Merit: 500
Pofitability vary each day , and maybe 2-3 times a day.
Hard to change mining, earn enough, and get the payment confirmed to the trading platform soon enough to sell before the profitability change .... Sad
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1030
WARNING:

Truly ask yourselves about mining profitability.

Take all of the Factors into consideration:
* There is an improved speed by about 15-25% for Claymore's v7.0 for ZEC
* There is an power improvement by 5% for Claymore's v7.0 for ZEC
* Previous Claymore's V6.0 for ZEC was 32% less profitable than Claymores Dual 7.4 for ETH
* There is a 14% drop in ZEC price

I add all of these numbers up and it does not seem profitable to mine ZEC unless you see some future profitability in ZEC holdings...I do not.

This forum has helped me so, I am hoping to help you in this information.

 ETH profitabiity has also dropped quite a bit the last week - you pretty much have to crunch the CURRENT numbers on at least a daily basis.

 Also really need to factor in the other options as well, like XMR and ETC et cetera.
full member
Activity: 199
Merit: 100
24 cards in 4 rigs, 21x msi 470 4gb, 3x ref 480 8gb, all celeron 1840s.
3616H/s so that's about 150h/card; 2800W at the wall so 0.77H/W.
It might get a bit better if I try to lower voltage offset right now 0, v is around 0.93-0.95.
1500 straps, 1180/950 core, 1850/950 mem.


legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
Phil and AriesIV10,

I switched all my 2 rigs to ETH. Mining ZEC gives substantially lower profit on my setups


Well  for me  with the lower volts and low clocks  zec still works.

5 rigs 18 cards  2.3 to 2.4KH of hash

7.7 x 240 volts =  1848 watts

every fan at 50% = pretty quiet

monthly kwatts are 1376.4  x .127 cents = 175 USD for power

earn .3 zec a day x .095 = .0285 btc a day x 745 = $21.23 x 31 = 658 usd a month - 175 power = 483 profit.

I figure the heat is worth about  $1.50 a day so add back 45 and I am at 528 profit per month

Eth would earn more  but  I would burn more power  higher fan speeds.

I like a four   card rig near 400 watts
I like a three card rig near 300 watts

This power savings make the hobby easy to do.
I still point a four card rig to Eth  but it uses 580 watts vs 400 watts.

I am not sure I could get the rigs to drop power on eth like I can on zec
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Phil and AriesIV10,

I switched all my 2 rigs to ETH. Mining ZEC gives substantially lower profit on my setups
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1006
Mine for a Bit
WARNING:

Truly ask yourselves about mining profitability.

Take all of the Factors into consideration:
* There is an improved speed by about 15-25% for Claymore's v7.0 for ZEC
* There is an power improvement by 5% for Claymore's v7.0 for ZEC
* Previous Claymore's V6.0 for ZEC was 32% less profitable than Claymores Dual 7.4 for ETH
* There is a 14% drop in ZEC price

I add all of these numbers up and it does not seem profitable to mine ZEC unless you see some future profitability in ZEC holdings...I do not.

This forum has helped me so, I am hoping to help you in this information.
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