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So, something else I just thought about regarding my build with this Mobo & MSI 470's:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157543&cm_re=ASRock_x99-_-13-157-543-_-Product

This Mobo has no onboard video, so was planning to plug in the cheap VGA connector monitor I have into the first MSI 470's HDMI port via this connector/converter:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016HL4CAY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The thing I am grappling with goes back to the installing of AMD drivers for this GPU, since obviously, Windows 7 will not have them included when I install it fresh on the new SSD.

So, my question is this:  How will i be able to see anything on my monitor upon initial boot up, if it is plugged into a GPU that will not have its drivers installed yet?  I'm hoping that there is some limited functionality that at least allows text to be visible on the monitor before the drivers are installed, but if not, I can't think of a way to get around this.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Windows will install general VGA drivers for your GPU. You will see all text etc
sr. member
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So, something else I just thought about regarding my build with this Mobo & MSI 470's:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157543&cm_re=ASRock_x99-_-13-157-543-_-Product

This Mobo has no onboard video, so was planning to plug in the cheap VGA connector monitor I have into the first MSI 470's HDMI port via this connector/converter:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016HL4CAY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The thing I am grappling with goes back to the installing of AMD drivers for this GPU, since obviously, Windows 7 will not have them included when I install it fresh on the new SSD.

So, my question is this:  How will i be able to see anything on my monitor upon initial boot up, if it is plugged into a GPU that will not have its drivers installed yet?  I'm hoping that there is some limited functionality that at least allows text to be visible on the monitor before the drivers are installed, but if not, I can't think of a way to get around this.

Any advice would be appreciated.
hero member
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hero member
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Low 20's.

21.4 to 22.2

Jet is best price. But I get taxed as they are NJ based.

Sometimes I can do,better on eBay but it is a complex purchase.

I buy eBay gift cards with a 5 to 10 percent discount then wait for eBay to offer an ebucks discount of 8 to 10 percent.

Then certain eBay companies sell new cards with no,taxes. So if all three things align it beats the jet price.

I got some Msi card for 177 which is good.

So basically only about 2MH less - even at the price point Jet has, it's better ROI, so when I build my 7 card machine in a few weeks I'll use those.  Right now I'm just waiting on Sidehack to get the next run of those molex boards done, as I'm doing all my builds using those now, and I think he's about 3 weeks out.
sr. member
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Well, I go the last of my components from NewEgg today, so now just hoping my W7 arrives tomorrow so I can set up my first rig this weekend.  Really curious to see what that i7-6800k is going to do, but overall, just chomping at the bit to finally start mining at some real speeds with the 3 MSI RX 470's!

So, I have (mostly) built my current personal PC myself, so I am fairly confident that I can assemble all of the hardware by leveraging the MoBo and YouTube demos if i get stuck. What I am a bit more foggy on though is the BIOS & OS setup, mainly the order, so wanted to pose a few quick questions here for some feedback:

After installing all hardware onto the MoBo, including connecting to PSU...

1- power on machine
2- since I am hooking up a brand new SSD, there will be nothing on it, so assuming the BIOS screen will come up first
3- at this point, do I see if the BIOS needs updated first before doing anything else?
4- or, should I clear/reset the CMOS censor before updating BIOS? Or, does this even really need to be done at all?
5- would the next step be to install Windows?

Finally, I am assuming that I plug in ALL 3 GPUs at initial setup BEFORE turning on the machine for the first time. If that is not correct, please let me know.

Also, are there any quirks to look out for specifically for a multi-GPU set-up?  Obviously i know not to enable cross-fire or SLI bridging, but are there any other unique things to be aware of during set up?

FYI: I am using this X99 MoBo:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157543&cm_re=ASRock_x99-_-13-157-543-_-Product


Turn on the computer with only one GPU (my recommendation, just in case one gpu doesn't load properly with drivers). You will have to restart afterwards anyways when you install the AMD drivers, so at that point you can connect the other GPUs.

What OS are you using? If you have a cd that will need to be loaded, if not a usb with an OS system or SSD that is flashed with one.

You have no need to go into the bios on initial startup or ever unless you're trying to tweak something some pcie or something.

Thanks Rocky, I appreciate the info! I will be using Windows 7 Pro x64 and loading from a CD/DVD via a SATA optical drive.

So, I will just plug 1 GPU into PCIe x16 slot #1 before the the initial boot, then move right to installing Windows and don't mess with anything in bios.  Once installed, I assume Windows will auto-detect the MSI GPU and either auto-download the drivers from AMD or I will have to download manually and install them. But, either way, after that is done, shut down, unplug, install the other 2 GPUs, turn on the PC again, making sure all 3 GPUs are now recognized?

Thanks again, I am trying to prep as much as possible before actually building this thing Wink


legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Hey philipma1957, figured I'd move our conversation over to your thread since it's more appropriate... So what hashrate are you getting with claymore on those 4G MSI's?   And did you find a better price than jet.com for those cards?  I'm getting ready to give a shot at building a 7 card rig, so if I could use the 4G, then I think it would end up costing me almost the same as the 6x 8G config.  Wink


Low 20's.

21.4 to 22.2

Jet is best price. But I get taxed as they are NJ based.

Sometimes I can do,better on eBay but it is a complex purchase.

I buy eBay gift cards with a 5 to 10 percent discount then wait for eBay to offer an ebucks discount of 8 to 10 percent.

Then certain eBay companies sell new cards with no,taxes. So if all three things align it beats the jet price.

I got some Msi card for 177 which is good.
sr. member
Activity: 429
Merit: 250
Well, I go the last of my components from NewEgg today, so now just hoping my W7 arrives tomorrow so I can set up my first rig this weekend.  Really curious to see what that i7-6800k is going to do, but overall, just chomping at the bit to finally start mining at some real speeds with the 3 MSI RX 470's!

So, I have (mostly) built my current personal PC myself, so I am fairly confident that I can assemble all of the hardware by leveraging the MoBo and YouTube demos if i get stuck. What I am a bit more foggy on though is the BIOS & OS setup, mainly the order, so wanted to pose a few quick questions here for some feedback:

After installing all hardware onto the MoBo, including connecting to PSU...

1- power on machine
2- since I am hooking up a brand new SSD, there will be nothing on it, so assuming the BIOS screen will come up first
3- at this point, do I see if the BIOS needs updated first before doing anything else?
4- or, should I clear/reset the CMOS censor before updating BIOS? Or, does this even really need to be done at all?
5- would the next step be to install Windows?

Finally, I am assuming that I plug in ALL 3 GPUs at initial setup BEFORE turning on the machine for the first time. If that is not correct, please let me know.

Also, are there any quirks to look out for specifically for a multi-GPU set-up?  Obviously i know not to enable cross-fire or SLI bridging, but are there any other unique things to be aware of during set up?

FYI: I am using this X99 MoBo:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157543&cm_re=ASRock_x99-_-13-157-543-_-Product


Turn on the computer with only one GPU (my recommendation, just in case one gpu doesn't load properly with drivers). You will have to restart afterwards anyways when you install the AMD drivers, so at that point you can connect the other GPUs.

What OS are you using? If you have a cd that will need to be loaded, if not a usb with an OS system or SSD that is flashed with one.

You have no need to go into the bios on initial startup or ever unless you're trying to tweak something some pcie or something.
hero member
Activity: 687
Merit: 511
Hey philipma1957, figured I'd move our conversation over to your thread since it's more appropriate... So what hashrate are you getting with claymore on those 4G MSI's?   And did you find a better price than jet.com for those cards?  I'm getting ready to give a shot at building a 7 card rig, so if I could use the 4G, then I think it would end up costing me almost the same as the 6x 8G config.  Wink
sr. member
Activity: 600
Merit: 261
Well, I go the last of my components from NewEgg today, so now just hoping my W7 arrives tomorrow so I can set up my first rig this weekend.  Really curious to see what that i7-6800k is going to do, but overall, just chomping at the bit to finally start mining at some real speeds with the 3 MSI RX 470's!

So, I have (mostly) built my current personal PC myself, so I am fairly confident that I can assemble all of the hardware by leveraging the MoBo and YouTube demos if i get stuck. What I am a bit more foggy on though is the BIOS & OS setup, mainly the order, so wanted to pose a few quick questions here for some feedback:

After installing all hardware onto the MoBo, including connecting to PSU...

1- power on machine
2- since I am hooking up a brand new SSD, there will be nothing on it, so assuming the BIOS screen will come up first
3- at this point, do I see if the BIOS needs updated first before doing anything else?
4- or, should I clear/reset the CMOS censor before updating BIOS? Or, does this even really need to be done at all?
5- would the next step be to install Windows?

Finally, I am assuming that I plug in ALL 3 GPUs at initial setup BEFORE turning on the machine for the first time. If that is not correct, please let me know.

Also, are there any quirks to look out for specifically for a multi-GPU set-up?  Obviously i know not to enable cross-fire or SLI bridging, but are there any other unique things to be aware of during set up?

FYI: I am using this X99 MoBo:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157543&cm_re=ASRock_x99-_-13-157-543-_-Product
hero member
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legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
hero member
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I hope you get more lucky with the combo RX gpus and H81 mobo.
I have been replacing all mobos in my rigs to go completely riserless.

I have been using H81 boards in my rigs for atleast five years with alot of different gpus but with the RX ones i have only had trouble, especially after going custom roms.

that is weird?
mine are on raisers and custom roms running smooth
do you have the latest risers? probably isnt a difference but it might be something to look into
I have good quality risers, i probably have around one hundred risers in total and i have replaced and replaced but the problems dont go away. Not sure what the problem is. I have had five rigs going and only one have been going without problems. I replaced the mobos in the other rigs and they have been going perfectly after that without risers.

I hope you get more lucky with the combo RX gpus and H81 mobo.
I have been replacing all mobos in my rigs to go completely riserless.

I have been using H81 boards in my rigs for atleast five years with alot of different gpus but with the RX ones i have only had trouble, especially after going custom roms.

 No custom roms.
 Don't dual mine and don't over clock.
 I have one H81 don't plan on more, but this one was a very good deal.  99 usd for board, ram,cpu, cpu cooler.
I will run 3 to five cards on it.

ALL my other builds are all mobo.

I will be up to 26 rx 470's and 480's  I think 12 rx 480s and 14 rx 470's this friday.  I would be able to go to 29 before I need a new board.

3 four card biostar z170's maxed out all mobo slots = 12 cards
1 three card asus  z170   maxed out all mobo slots = 3   cards
1 two card giga     z170  can add 1 more to max    = 2 but 3 on fri
2 two card giga   b75m   maxed out all mobo slots  = 4 cards
1 two card asrock h77    maxed out all mobo slots = 2 cards
1 five card asrock  h81  1 mobo slot  1  riser so far  = 2 cards   can add 3 risers

so on fri 26 cards 9 pc's   with 3 possible cards to the asrock h81   29 cards max  I can also add 1 more mobo maybe a 3 card giga. total max of 32 cards and 10 rigs.

I need to move my gear around more. Spent hours trying to clean and make gear neater today.
I have to relocate the s9 back to the solar array
I have to move my 30 amp 240 volt pdu closer to these rigs. far too many power cords at the moment.

nice thing is my 1 pdu should do all of these pc's since they pull under 20 amps. When I get to the 26th card on fri  I will not add any cards for some time.. I will arrange and neaten up  gear.

Right now i run 10 x 480s and six 470s.
I only have 2 x 10 amp powerlines to use so i try to get the total number of cards to a minimum and get as much bang for the buck out of them as possible.
I will get four more 470s and then i am done.

Right now i am getting around 470Mhs @ ETH with my sixteen cards.
Replacing the last H81 board in the coming week. I am sitting at work now and see that the H81 rig (4x470) is offline again as we speak :/

What hashrate do you get with the rig listed ?
legendary
Activity: 4256
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'The right to privacy matters'
I hope you get more lucky with the combo RX gpus and H81 mobo.
I have been replacing all mobos in my rigs to go completely riserless.

I have been using H81 boards in my rigs for atleast five years with alot of different gpus but with the RX ones i have only had trouble, especially after going custom roms.

 No custom roms.
 Don't dual mine and don't over clock.
 I have one H81 don't plan on more, but this one was a very good deal.  99 usd for board, ram,cpu, cpu cooler.
I will run 3 to five cards on it.

ALL my other builds are all mobo.

I will be up to 26 rx 470's and 480's  I think 12 rx 480s and 14 rx 470's this friday.  I would be able to go to 29 before I need a new board.

3 four card biostar z170's maxed out all mobo slots = 12 cards
1 three card asus  z170   maxed out all mobo slots = 3   cards
1 two card giga     z170  can add 1 more to max    = 2 but 3 on fri
2 two card giga   b75m   maxed out all mobo slots  = 4 cards
1 two card asrock h77    maxed out all mobo slots = 2 cards
1 five card asrock  h81  1 mobo slot  1  riser so far  = 2 cards   can add 3 risers

so on fri 26 cards 9 pc's   with 3 possible cards to the asrock h81   29 cards max  I can also add 1 more mobo maybe a 3 card giga. total max of 32 cards and 10 rigs.

I need to move my gear around more. Spent hours trying to clean and make gear neater today.
I have to relocate the s9 back to the solar array
I have to move my 30 amp 240 volt pdu closer to these rigs. far too many power cords at the moment.

nice thing is my 1 pdu should do all of these pc's since they pull under 20 amps. When I get to the 26th card on fri  I will not add any cards for some time.. I will arrange and neaten up  gear.
hero member
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I hope you get more lucky with the combo RX gpus and H81 mobo.
I have been replacing all mobos in my rigs to go completely riserless.

I have been using H81 boards in my rigs for atleast five years with alot of different gpus but with the RX ones i have only had trouble, especially after going custom roms.

that is weird?
mine are on raisers and custom roms running smooth
do you have the latest risers? probably isnt a difference but it might be something to look into
hero member
Activity: 687
Merit: 502
I hope you get more lucky with the combo RX gpus and H81 mobo.
I have been replacing all mobos in my rigs to go completely riserless.

I have been using H81 boards in my rigs for atleast five years with alot of different gpus but with the RX ones i have only had trouble, especially after going custom roms.
legendary
Activity: 4256
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'The right to privacy matters'
HerbPean board from amazon
it will do 5 cards no hangers but risers are mounted







I have  six rigs here
new rig from HerbPean is left of the car.


i could add a rig above the asrock 81 from HerbPean.
Mos likely I will move one of the two rigs in my den.
legendary
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I just bought all the pieces in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfE_QidD75M.

I'm sure there are other instructions, but I found these the other day.  I used 3/4" aluminum and wood, instead of 1", to help control costs (Yes, I'm cheap like that).  I'll let everyone know how it goes, if there is interest.

I found the same video and I will probably build something like that. My only concern is about the wood part and the mobo for fire hazard.

I found an open ATX frame on aliababa but it's 20$ shipping for over a month of wait. Couldn't find one like that in any other place.

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32360817006.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/QDIY-PC-JMK6-ATX-Aluminum-Alloy-Horizontal-Full-Open-Computer-Case-Chassis/32360817006.html

Shame it would be perfect


What you linked is useless I think. I put everything simply on the table and it is working perfectly. Moreover, the McGyver look is really awesome !


It is indeed overkill but it's clean and safe.
hero member
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I just bought all the pieces in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfE_QidD75M.

I'm sure there are other instructions, but I found these the other day.  I used 3/4" aluminum and wood, instead of 1", to help control costs (Yes, I'm cheap like that).  I'll let everyone know how it goes, if there is interest.

I found the same video and I will probably build something like that. My only concern is about the wood part and the mobo for fire hazard.

I found an open ATX frame on aliababa but it's 20$ shipping for over a month of wait. Couldn't find one like that in any other place.

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32360817006.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/QDIY-PC-JMK6-ATX-Aluminum-Alloy-Horizontal-Full-Open-Computer-Case-Chassis/32360817006.html

Shame it would be perfect


What you linked is useless I think. I put everything simply on the table and it is working perfectly. Moreover, the McGyver look is really awesome !

Cleaned up gpu area a bit and now have 9 rigs running.

1,2,3  are four card z170 biostar open case =  12 cards
4 is a three card asus ............................. =    3 cards
5 is the 3-5 card gigabyte with 2 cards ..... =    2 cards   I will add back 1 on friday
6 two cards in a b75m in a case............... =    2 cards
7 two cards in a b75m open air ............... =   2 cards
8 two cards in an asrock  in a case .......... =   2 cards
9 two cards in the asrock 81 ..................  =   2 cards   I may 2 here. I think this can do 5 easy

25 cards one on the way will be 26 cards by friday.



Phil how I envy you and your cheap USA prices ! For exemple here the Biostar Racing is priced the equivalent of 268$ !!!
legendary
Activity: 4256
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'The right to privacy matters'
Cleaned up gpu area a bit and now have 9 rigs running.

1,2,3  are four card z170 biostar open case =  12 cards
4 is a three card asus ............................. =    3 cards
5 is the 3-5 card gigabyte with 2 cards ..... =    2 cards   I will add back 1 on friday
6 two cards in a b75m in a case............... =    2 cards
7 two cards in a b75m open air ............... =   2 cards
8 two cards in an asrock  in a case .......... =   2 cards
9 two cards in the asrock 81 ..................  =   2 cards   I may 2 here. I think this can do 5 easy

25 cards one on the way will be 26 cards by friday.

legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1005
I just bought all the pieces in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfE_QidD75M.

I'm sure there are other instructions, but I found these the other day.  I used 3/4" aluminum and wood, instead of 1", to help control costs (Yes, I'm cheap like that).  I'll let everyone know how it goes, if there is interest.

I found the same video and I will probably build something like that. My only concern is about the wood part and the mobo for fire hazard.

I found an open ATX frame on aliababa but it's 20$ shipping for over a month of wait. Couldn't find one like that in any other place.

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32360817006.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/QDIY-PC-JMK6-ATX-Aluminum-Alloy-Horizontal-Full-Open-Computer-Case-Chassis/32360817006.html

Shame it would be perfect
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