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legendary
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That's true, but my point is that that kind of thing isn't dependent on a persons gender or physical fitness etc. Tongue
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Human weapon is a crappy example for martial arts, but what if the old lady knows ninjitsu knife fighting? Tongue

And what if the street tough also knows ninjutsu knife fighting?

The point is, if you leave it to hand-to-hand, the advantage leans heavily in favor of the aggressor, who, by virtue of making his living through beating people up, has a vested interest in being the stronger.

Or, as an old advertising slogan put it:
 "God made man, but Samuel Colt made them equal."
legendary
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Human weapon is a crappy example for martial arts, but what if the old lady knows ninjitsu knife fighting? Tongue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlq2gw4LnIg

Go to 5:13

Cheesy and I know the point, but it's daft, speaking as someone who's been doing martial arts for around 8 years there is no way to tell just from physical appearance whether a person is capable of winning a fight or not.

Edit: I finally found an awesome example, there's this guy who my teachers learned a lot from called Sensei Kase, he's dead now but on first glance you would never think he could do any martial arts at all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXZZ4NOY9aI - sorry about the crappy music, but this was one of the only decent videos of him demonstrating I could find, he completely knocks about a guy far fitter than he is when he's being attacked.
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I'm sure you also know that women, who tend to be physically weaker, not only benefit more from the addition of a firearm, but also benefit more often, being the target of violence more often than men.


I know you've said that women 'tend' to be physically weaker but I'm someone who attends a martial arts club where there's a twelve year old girl who could easily kick your arse LOL I think it's just a general perception that's been drilled into our heads really, the problem is everyone is different so there's no real way to say whether this is true or not, the only thing that is 100% certain is that female muscles are of a different shape than men.

Well, of course. exceptions don't disprove a tendency. Not every woman can be a black belt, though, and I bet a fully grown man, at the same level of skill, can beat that 12 year old. The point is:

Little old lady, armed with knife, vs street tough, armed with knife: advantage: street tough.
Little old lady, armed with gun, vs street tough, armed with gun: fair fight.
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I'm sure you also know that women, who tend to be physically weaker, not only benefit more from the addition of a firearm, but also benefit more often, being the target of violence more often than men.


I know you've said that women 'tend' to be physically weaker but I'm someone who attends a martial arts club where there's a twelve year old girl who could easily kick your arse LOL I think it's just a general perception that's been drilled into our heads really, the problem is everyone is different so there's no real way to say whether this is true or not, the only thing that is 100% certain is that female muscles are of a different shape than men.
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Thanks for that, fornit... I haven't laughed that much all day.
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in light of new evidence, i withdraw my proposal to use a mp7 pdw for home defense purposes. in order to limit damage to your property, owners of *cough*...houses...similiar to the one above should consider something with more appropriate penetration capabilities.



and buy some end-cutting pliers. you dont want to pull those of the wall....
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btw, what do you pay for a house made of foam (board)?
pick a size, i dont know whats common in the us, 1500sq?
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lol how did this thread turn to construction? It does make you think though? How the hell can we keep our homes secure against hurricanes and tsunamis? I wonder if steel is a good option? Though that seems like it would have problems as well.

The places that are serious about storms build their houses (or at least one room) with cinder block walls, reinforced with rebar, and filled with concrete. Next best thing to digging into the side of a mountain.

Safety from a tsunami actually requires a whole different design strategy: make way for the water.

The truth is that for the vast majority of us, it's not worth making our homes secure from hurricanes and tsunamis. I'm probably more likely to be killed on my way home tonight than I am of ever being killed by a hurricane in my home.

And a tsunami would have to be going some to reach Tennessee. Cheesy



Especially if you're in western TN. If you get hit there with a Tsunami, we've got bigger problems.
legendary
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lol how did this thread turn to construction? It does make you think though? How the hell can we keep our homes secure against hurricanes and tsunamis? I wonder if steel is a good option? Though that seems like it would have problems as well.

The places that are serious about storms build their houses (or at least one room) with cinder block walls, reinforced with rebar, and filled with concrete. Next best thing to digging into the side of a mountain.

Safety from a tsunami actually requires a whole different design strategy: make way for the water.

The truth is that for the vast majority of us, it's not worth making our homes secure from hurricanes and tsunamis. I'm probably more likely to be killed on my way home tonight than I am of ever being killed by a hurricane in my home.

And a tsunami would have to be going some to reach Tennessee. Cheesy
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lol how did this thread turn to construction? It does make you think though? How the hell can we keep our homes secure against hurricanes and tsunamis? I wonder if steel is a good option? Though that seems like it would have problems as well.

The places that are serious about storms build their houses (or at least one room) with cinder block walls, reinforced with rebar, and filled with concrete. Next best thing to digging into the side of a mountain.

Safety from a tsunami actually requires a whole different design strategy: make way for the water.
legendary
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lol how did this thread turn to construction? It does make you think though? How the hell can we keep our homes secure against hurricanes and tsunamis? I wonder if steel is a good option? Though that seems like it would have problems as well.
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OTOH, there was someone killed a couple of years ago who lived in a brick house when the wall blew over and fell on them.

Though in the US, even brick houses are commonly wooden frame. If I ever build a house, it will be all-brick just like my parents' was.
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A sheet of 1/2" ply! You must live in tornado alley or something! The new houses they build in the developments around here don't even use plywood (or osb) for the exterior anymore. They use foam board, with osb at the corners. You can literally break into someone's home by cutting through a wall with a utility knife. I have pellet rifles that can penetrate that!
That's pretty sad! Can you name an area where they do that? (but not your location please)

I don't travel much, but I've seen it mostly in the large developments where the houses seem to go up overnight. Typically, a single house being built with the oversight of the landowners is sheathed in osb or plywood, then possibly foam board over that. I'll try to look for it the next time I'm driving past a new development and snap a few shots.

Really makes me appreciate the brownstone I grew up in.
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A sheet of 1/2" ply! You must live in tornado alley or something! The new houses they build in the developments around here don't even use plywood (or osb) for the exterior anymore. They use foam board, with osb at the corners. You can literally break into someone's home by cutting through a wall with a utility knife. I have pellet rifles that can penetrate that!
That's pretty sad! Can you name an area where they do that? (but not your location please)
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i think even in the US with the papier mache houses, you probably wont be able to shoot through an exterior wall.

Excepting a brick or stone facade, I can do that with a copper jacketed roundnose 22lr.  It wouldn't be moving very fast on the other side, which is good, but it'd go through.  Anything supersonic and a solid leading edge would not likely have trouble breaking through plastic siding, a sheet of 1/2 inch thick plywood and a sheet of 1/2 inch thick drywall board.

A sheet of 1/2" ply! You must live in tornado alley or something! The new houses they build in the developments around here don't even use plywood (or osb) for the exterior anymore. They use foam board, with osb at the corners. You can literally break into someone's home by cutting through a wall with a utility knife. I have pellet rifles that can penetrate that!

LOL!  I live in tornado alley!
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a holstered mp7 and that cap and no one will ever fuck with you!

I'm sure, that as a manly man, you know that an MP7, as an SMG, is slung, not holstered.

it can be holstered or slung.

Ah, I stand corrected. It does, however, require a thigh holster.

I'm sure you also know that women, who tend to be physically weaker, not only benefit more from the addition of a firearm, but also benefit more often, being the target of violence more often than men.
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a holstered mp7 and that cap and no one will ever fuck with you!

I'm sure, that as a manly man, you know that an MP7, as an SMG, is slung, not holstered.

it can be holstered or slung.


i think even in the US with the papier mache houses, you probably wont be able to shoot through an exterior wall.

Excepting a brick or stone facade, I can do that with a copper jacketed roundnose 22lr.  It wouldn't be moving very fast on the other side, which is good, but it'd go through.  Anything supersonic and a solid leading edge would not likely have trouble breaking through plastic siding, a sheet of 1/2 inch thick plywood and a sheet of 1/2 inch thick drywall board.

i stand corrected. no wonder every little puff leaves you homeless  Wink
legendary
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i think even in the US with the papier mache houses, you probably wont be able to shoot through an exterior wall.

Excepting a brick or stone facade, I can do that with a copper jacketed roundnose 22lr.  It wouldn't be moving very fast on the other side, which is good, but it'd go through.  Anything supersonic and a solid leading edge would not likely have trouble breaking through plastic siding, a sheet of 1/2 inch thick plywood and a sheet of 1/2 inch thick drywall board.
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a holstered mp7 and that cap and no one will ever fuck with you!

I'm sure, that as a manly man, you know that an MP7, as an SMG, is slung, not holstered.
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