Topic: My wife is a hero: mom shoots intruder 5 times, saves kids - page 7. (Read 9480 times)

just covering all the angles. most means you come out ahead in most self-defense scenarios. who wants that?


i think even in the US with the papier mache houses, you probably wont be able to shoot through an exterior wall. besides, if you want to "accidentally" shoot your husband/wife in your house, its kind of ackward to explain when you got line of sight. definite upside of a pdw in a country with so many bad divorces 


i might be a little antiquated in that matter, but i would still feel a little unmanly with a purse anyway. a holstered mp7 and that cap
and no one will ever fuck with you!

I think your imagination regarding self-defense scenarios is a bit over-influenced by Hollywood. Most defense incidents occur at very close range, and don't need a flood of lead. Most attackers don't wear body armor, and the last thing you want to do in a home defense situation is to penetrate a wall.

An MP7 is a fine weapon. If you're a bodyguard. For carrying in a purse or keeping in the nightstand, I'd pick a .38. Besides, the P90 is prettier.

i think your imagination regarding self-defense scenarios is a bit limited. a .38 revolver is inaccurate at long distances, has a very low rate of fire and no capability to penetrate body armor or walls. i would recommend a hk mp7 pdw. if legal in your jurisdiction of course.

As I understand it, a .38 revolver offers a good combination of concealability, reliability, and stopping power. The relatively low ammo capacity is the only real drawback.

The sheriff said six shots were fired. The reporter didn't infer this, he cited the county sheriff as the source of this specific information, and he's not likely to be mistaken about such a simple detail. Maybe he is, but I think it's most unlikely.

[citation needed] Last time I checked, 6-shot .38 Special revolvers were very common, if not the most common type of revolver used today. Sure, 5-shot revolvers are pretty common, but I don't think six-shooters are anywhere near as rare as you seem to think. Besides, who's to say this woman isn't involved in "cowboy shooting" competitions? I mean, who keeps a revolver for self-defence purposes these days?

I read it, I question it's accuracy.  I did a google search for other articles on this event, and among those that I could find, no others actually said that she fired 6 shots.  All of them said that she hit him in the face and neck 5 times, and a few mentioned that she had emptied the revolver but still buffaloed the guy by telling him that if he got up she'd shoot again, before running to a neighbor's house with her kids.  I find it very likely that it was a 38 special, but not likely that it was a six shooter.  I have zero evidence, mind you, but experience regarding how often early reporting gets details wrong makes me believe that the writer of this article interpreted "hit five times, empty revolver" to mean that she missed once.  How many reporters do you think have experience with a revolver, and how many only think of wild west movies?  A 38 special in six shots is rare, because they have to be the frame size of a service revolver.  While reducing the capacity by one reduces both weight and frame size significantly, making the 38 special a crediblely compact & concealable weapon.  Which is pretty much how they are used, and thus how manufactures make them.  While I wouldn't doubt that full size frame revolvers are still manufactured, perhaps for "cowboy shooting" competitions, the majority that exist are old handguns from the days that such revolvers were the standard police issue sidearm.  Their numbers are significantly outweighed by the number of 5 shot compact revolvers.  I don't even know if I'd trust such an old handgun to not blow up in my hand, considering the significant advancements in +P powder tech.  The 38 special was originally a black powder round, and has gone through a number of 'revisions' over the past 100+ years of it's existence.

Could she have used a 6 shot 38?  Yes.  I just don't consider that combination likely.

Was it a miss, or a "warning shot"? Which I fucking hate unless you have a full load blank and fire it with your arm outstretched above your head directly up into the sky, starter pistol style, to get the attention of an active violent criminal whose back is turned and you don't have a clear shot and backstop on.

It's a right!!!!!!!!!

For the record:

I wonder which one missed.

Hitting monkey 5 times in head is still considered a miss!

What the Hell are you talking about? The article specifically mentions that the gun was a ".38 revolver" which is stated to be empty after six shots were fired. Presumably it was a .38 Special, which to this day is the single most popular revolver cartridge, with a 6-shot cylinder being most common for this calibre (although 5- and 7-shot revolvers exist), hardly a "rare animal". There were a total of 6 shots fired: 5 hits and 1 miss. Learn to read.

What model if it is not secret?USA keeps track of ex-soviet nukes too. Russians take all nukes with them when they left Latvia. In Latvia only research reactor remained. The USA asked to shut it down and send all fissile material abroad and our politics readily take goatse position and now Latvia is no more a nuclear superpower. I spoke with persons who worked there and they told that in case of need a nukes could be produced in less than year.

The USA is not only disarming their own citizens, it even disarms other sovereign nations. So You could sleep peacefully, there is not many nations that can have both nukes and different opinions than USA government. And if monkey comes in your house, use pepper spray. 

Yeah, but you guys have all those ex-soviet nukes. The US still keeps track of theirs.

I've got a former soviet weapon as well. 

That part was incredible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=thCl_mYIUBE#t=639s


Problem is, in Europe people are so used to being stripped of their rights that they find it normal that ''guns are dangerous because they kill people so they should be banned'', forgetting who pulls the trigger. Gun laws in EU will vary from country to country so in some places it may not be that bad (Switzerland is a good example) but I think in most cases they are very restrictive compared to US. For example in Poland gun permits are required for anything else than 19th century gunpowder guns (even then there are some limitations...), and only 1% of the population has a gun permit because they are close to impossible to get for sport shooting and impossible to get for self-defense (unless one works as a bodyguard or something similar). Before WWII a permit was issued after a quick background check, after Stalin came everyone was forced to surrender their arms and their permits were revoked. Nowadays even the police is untrained, shooting on average 20 shots a year. Not sure how it was last year, but 3 years ago 37 tons of ammunition were disposed of for $130k because they were no longer usable after being stored for years (probably not in the proper conditions).
But in UK it gets so bad that carrying a screwdriver ''without a good reason'' can mean trouble because murders are committed with it:

http://www.allamericanblogger.com/13474/in-london-its-illegal-to-carry-a-screwdriver-without-a-good-reason-by-the-way-knife-crime-is-skyrocketing/

Anyway for zombies or escaped slaves a belt fed machine gun is needed to score a sure kill!

For human being any caliber can be deadly, but often the death is not immediate like in computer games. The women might have a collectible revolver just as good.

P.S. I envy how Americans have rare weapons such as Mauser C96, Luger, P38 and early versions of Tokarev TT-30. Looks like whole Europe arsenal is bought to USA.

Guys, stop misquoting each other.  Both the article, and I, have pointed out that she used five shots.  The article implies, probably incorrectly, that the revolver was a six shooter.  Odds are high that it was either a 5 shot revolver, or another caliber.  The six round 38 special is a rare animal for a variety of technical reasons, and as far as I am aware, none have been mass produced in over 50 years.  You can get a 22lr revovler in 5, 6 & 8 round versions; and larger caliber revolvers (45?) in rather heavy & large 6 round versions, but a 6 round 38 special cannot be a compact weapon, and as such is uncommon.  

Happens all the time. White guy usually has a blue costume on, though.

This also shows that low-capacity magazines also are no option even for self-defense. She used all six bullets from revolver and the nigger* was still alive because no vital organs been hit even with multiple headshots.

* I want to see some multiculturalists saying "judge people from his actions, not skin color!" The situation is always this way and I never heard opposite way (white man invading home of black women with kids).

High-five Icebreaker, nice thread. 

Let the socialist scrabble for higher ground to avoid their sick fantasy where the mom and her kids die as a sacrifice for the anti-gun movement. (In order to save others, of course)

Like rats fleeing the tide...