Topic: [neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin? - page 48. (Read 95279 times)

I am resetting the poll one final time to see if voters like or dislike VIBES.

I am also still strongly considering using NETCASH, so if you MUCH prefer that name then vote for it in the poll.

Here is a record of the prior three votes:

Conceptually interesting, but I think we are getting too abstract and removed from what will be meaningful for users.

I see the marketing thrust as for example:

CodesTube - "youtube without annoying video ads"
Get instant free net codes for free access.

Or:
ClicksTube - "youtube without annoying video ads"
Get instant free click codes for free access.

Or:
ClicTube - "youtube without annoying video ads"
Get instant free clic(s?) for free access.

Or:
ClixTube - "youtube without annoying video ads"
Get instant free clix for free access.


BitsTube - "youtube without annoying video ads"
Get instant free netbits for free access.

Or:
Get instant free funbits for free access.

Or:
Get instant free bit codes for free access.

Or:
Get instant free bits for free access.

Or:
Get instant free bitz for free access.

Or:
Get instant free bits cash for free access.

Or:
Get instant free cool bits for free access.

Or:
Get instant free cyber bits for free access.

I (regrettably) spent $42.92 to register:

netbits.biz
netbits.cash
netbits.click
netbits.me

I spent $37.61 to register:

bitcodes.biz
bitcodes.click
bitcodes.me
bitcodes.org
bitcodes.us
bitcode.us


I paid $400+ to acquire dots.com in 2014 (or was it early 2015) and then the registrar went bankrupt. I couldn't recover because I had registered anonymously.

I like it less now than I did, because it seems too abstract and lacking definitive connection to our use case for the user, e.g.:

DotsTube - "youtube without annoying video ads"
Get instant free dots for free access.


Yeah fads are serendipitous viral, grass roots (not top-down) creations and fade away.

But bolt, dash, and zap are associating with speed and also easing access to some good or service, e.g.:

DashTube - "youtube without annoying video ads"
Get instant free dash(es?) for free access.

Although DashTube sounds nice, 'dash' or 'dashes' (similarly as for 'dots') are too abstract and do not have any pre-existing meaning as units-of-exchange. To me, "bit codes", "click codes", "net codes", 'netbits', and 'funbits' are more readily understood as accumulated intangible items which can be exchanged. Note unlike 'codes', the word 'bits' doesn't make sense alone in this context.

Yet even with 'codes', we have the potential for confusion between "bit codes", "click codes", and "net codes" if for example there are competitors using each of the three (unless I can somehow capture all three, but note point in registering many domain names is just to have options and to make it expensive for someone to obtain a good domain for competitive names to the same concept, i.e. they could launch under *.io or *.ws, but if I own the *.net, *.biz, *.us, etc then we can capitalize in retaliation for any pure ripoff).

In trying to capture a social unit-of-value and social exchange, I had suggested 'vibe':

VibeTube - "youtube without annoying video ads"
Get instant free vibes for free access.

VibeTube sounds nice and vibes are clearly a social phenomenon, thus these are brandable over time as something accumulated and utilized in the context of social networking (implication cyberspace).

I spent $32.05 to register:

vibes.cash
vibes.click

I spent $7.76 to register the alternative concise spelling:

vibz.biz
vibz.us

The only other terms that come close to the same concept are 'aura' and 'love', neither of which seem to work as well.

Possibly moe works (which btw was my nickname when I was a child, I guess short for my last name "Moore" but it was also because of the Three Stooges). Available portmanteaus containing 'mo' and/or 'moe':

		Available Domains
bitmo	bitmoe	(bitmo.net, bitmoe.com; but bitmo.com is Bitcoin payment app)
bitsmo	bitsmoe	(bitsmo.net, bitsmoe.com, bits.moe)
clicmo	clicmoe	(clicmo.net, clicmoe.com, clic.moe)
clixmo	clixmoe	(clixmo.net, clixmoe.com, clix.moe)
clickmo	clickmoe	(clickmo.net, clickmoe.com, click.moe)
digimo	digimoe	(digimo.net, digimoe.org)
	dynamoe	(dynamoe.org, dyna.moe)
getmo	getmoe	(getmo.org, getmoe.net; For sale getmo.net $3695; Gitmo means Guantánamo terrorist prison)
mobimo	mobimoe	(mobimo.org, mobimoe.net)
moolamo	moolamoe	(moolamo.net, moolamoe.com, moola.moe)
vromo	vromoe	(vromo.net, vromoe.com, vro.moe; For sale vromo.com)
zipmo	zipmoe	(zipmo.net, zipmoe.com)

I sort of like digimo, but not given the sea of potential copycats.

I had already registered moola.click if we wanted to use moola (not moolamo), but nobody over here in Philippines knows what moola is and probably the same throughout Asia if not also Latin America.

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The only other idea I have is:

netips

But you can see the problem with branding of 'net', 'code', 'click', or 'bits' are all the permutations:

bitcodes
bits
bitscoin
bitscash
bitz
bitzcash
clickbits
clickcodes
clickz
clickzcash
ebits
ecodes
funbits
funcodes
ibits
icodes
itsy-bits(y)
mobits
mybits
mycodes
netbits
netclicks
netcodes
netips

Thus it clear to me that we can't brand those names.


Appears that after all, my initial idea to use VIBES was the correct one:

Also, if you can write up what name(s) are your current favorites I'll put something together in PS. Sometimes its better to see them and make a decision then.

There is more to your project that I originally thought.


That got me thinking, I know you’re not overly keen on the artyfarty Ethereum type names but there was one I thought expresses that

Fabric    (the essential structure of anything, especially a society or culture.)
("the fabric of society"…could you change that to “the fabric of the internet”)

So you could then break that down to fibre’s and/or threads for the social part. For example:

“Can you send me some threads”
“No, sorry, I’ve only got a few fibres left”



Other left field names:
Net:aurum* (awe-rum)(The Latin word for gold)(store-of-value)
Net:aes (ace) (Latin for bronze, ore, copper, etc)(social currency)
Ethos
Bolt (perhaps prefixing other words in your thread)

*Net:aurum looks and sounds great, but its moving away from being instantly understandable.


Predictably, I also thought mobits was good…but totally understand you wanting to move away from bits. I could be way off here but if Bitcoin is really here to stay then I think bits will become something like the term email (just for talking sake). Might be weird for some now but eventually it would be common place to describe a few units of any cryptocurrency. Instead of having to remember term for each, people will use the easiest/quickest description (hope that makes sense). However, THX 1138 is right about the mo/mobile part, mobisync, mobicodes etc just doesn’t sound good.

Moola was also a very good choice, IMO its more attractive as a brand than most other names in this thread.


Other thoughts:
I dont know if its my inner ocd, but I think it should all fit together (for example)

NetCode/Project
NetGold/Store of Value
NetBits**/Social Currency (ie, bits of gold?)


Not overly keen when you do if this way
NetCode/Project
NetGold/Store of Value
NetCodes or Codes** /Social Currency (reusing one of the names or dropping the prefix net doesn't sound right, but again that could just be me)
**Dots and dashes...could the satoshi unit be replaced by one of those?

Finally, I dont mean to be that guy but feel I should at least voice my concern. Some of the word choices aren't great (imo of course). Zap, fun and cool spring to mind. I would stay away from those personally as I've said before...when you tell kids something cool and fun...they usually think the opposite.

Clickchain (Clichain) doesn't just associate with a block chain. Rather it can convey to users that they are chaining their participation together to a create unified bond or result. My point is that 'chain' is a social term, if branded as such. Especially with 'click' prepend to 'chain'. Zapchain is a catchy name that can mean a fast social chain.

Nevertheless, I think 'chain' is a needless distraction from the main point I want to hit which is these 'netcodes' are for users to expend throughout the cyberspace to avail of features, goods, and services. Whereas 'chain' requires building some sort of sub-space on the internet that users think of holistically as attractive (which requires it have large scale before it can scale, i.e. a chicken-and-egg dilemma), 'netcodes' only requires that an individual user desire (even just) one individual service, good, or feature that accepts netcodes. Thus 'netcodes' is high degrees-of-freedom, high network effects paradigm because any PRE-EXISTING service, good, or feature can accept netcodes and any user can decide to avail of netcodes to avail of the desired service, good, or feature. Whereas, 'chain' requires creating a sub-space (chain) on the internet that users want to join.

I am nearly certain to proceed with netcodes (plural) as the name.

I agree users don't want to go acquire some BTC so they can tip other users to make better answers on Q&A sites. Duh.

The key to everything is not technology but marketing. The key is to get the coin in as many users hands as possible. If you do this, then the merchants will break down your door to get access to spending users. Why? Because for one thing there are a lot of business models that could be improved if users were verified to be humans and contributed a small micro-payments instead of having to fill out a Captcha or watch a video ad. And there are entire business models that can't even function within the current choices of:

• Advertising funded
• Advertising Captcha funded
• Credit card payment

Btw, I think I will have a surprise for everyone soon (as in this month). Please keep those negative votes coming.  

I am still waiting for even one of those who voted "dislike you or your style" to make a post (or private message) promising never to acquire or buy anything I create. Come on fools, man up and put your reputation on the line same as mine is, i.e. put your mouth where your foot is. Are you not sure of your convictions.  

P.S. health was not so horrendous yesterday and today seems back to full facilities, at least so far this morning.


This is also good. Doesn't imply access code though. Seems to imply this currency should only be used for fun activities and not serious ones. This might turn off some merchants. I prefer to stick with the serious name 'netcodes'.

I expended $54.58 to register the following just in case:

funbits.biz
funbits.cash
funbits.co
funbits.me
funbits.org
funbits.us


Remember this. Being a marketer is much more valuable than being a programmer. It really helps when you can do both very well, because then you can take marketing concept to fruition quickly. I am here to teach this lesson here in cryptoland, because apparently many geeks here don't seem to understand this and they measure everything in terms of Lines of Code.

Hey I love to code. Don't get me wrong. But I also love more a marketing coup.

It will soon be apparent why I was willing to spend $$ to buy up the best name alternatives for this concept. This was to protect against copycats that will sprout up very quickly after they see what I am up to:

I wonder if it would work to abstract to a word for energy?  Currency is really just a form of represented energy (like numerals to numbers or whatever) - cryptocurrency is possibly more directly linked to electrical energy / social energy / intellectual energy than fiat.  (Probably coming from a silly vid I watched on buttcoin)

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/energies

peps
verves
zings
zips
vitals

I think "chain" is linked to how it works (geekspeak) - but has nothing to do with what it accomplishes.   Might sound impossible but to me a perfect name doesn't include fiat & doesn't include geekspeak.

There's some precedent to naming one form of energy partially after a previous form.  electrical power / current

Yes, I get your point on that. I would have thought "chain" would have meaning to bitcoin aficionados, but perhaps not to a wider audience. Whereas Click/Clic/Clicks etc is more likely to, sure.


Netcodes seems more natural to say IMO.


From the above, it seems Zapchain perhaps isn't the best name they could have chosen, unless those who chose it felt it had a natural appeal and catchiness that would be memorable, irrespective of ultimate description of its purpose. Which is kind of the point I was struggling to make.


I see. I joined and quickly contributed a few things, but wasn't particularly impressed. I'm not convinced contributors will be enthusiastic to reward each other with "bits" (and I wasn't able to discover how many Satoshis these were worth) for interesting questions and articles.

From a previous list, Mobi is the one that is impressing me at the moment, though seems to be taken. So instead I'll use it as an example that while it doesn't satisfy all desired criteria, aesthetically (both visually, and how it trips of the tongue) I find it very appealing. I think it has both a friendly quality for a social network and would be convincing in a business setting and for currency (just my opinion). If there is potential in a name that doesn't have to be some kind product relevant portmanteau or stand-alone (I recall when I first heard about Bitcoin, it was the concept that attracted me, not the name; though certainly a great hook can draw in interest to a new product even though it isn't related to its purpose) based on net, codes, bloc, sync etc, then this stands out for me. Anyone else for this approach?

Otherwise, if you did go Mobi it could still be combined like so: MobiCodes, MobiNet, MobiSync...  Though can understand if this suggests "mobile" too heavily. But really my point is that I like the word more than any implied function.


I'm still liking these:

clickchain
netcodes (www.netcodes.co.uk/ is - as you are probably aware - already a website for discount codes and vouchers; which is what the name conjured up for me when I first saw it.....but it still retains an appeal all the same)
Sync
SyncNet

As regarding anything with " cash* " in it, recently you said:


I'd tend to agree with that to an extent, but still feel there is a reaching out to new users with what is already familiar. If so, then clic.cash works well (MobiCash?)

Like

netcodes - i think the best so far
netcash

------ maybe useful or maybe not ------

netclix  - maybe too similar to neflix
netclicks

litechain
lightchain
litecash
litecode
litelinx
light "

sprintchain
sprintcodes
sprintcash
sprintlinx

webcodes
webchains
webcash

funbits
easybits
funcodes
litebits
fastbits


I would personaly still go with Netcode

netnuggets
netdosh
netdollars
netmunnie
netmoney
netswag
neteggs
netchains
netriches
netloot

digiclix
digi - "

digidosh
digidollars


etc

webcash
webcoin - "
webwages

smart "
smartcodes
smartcash
smartchains
smartclix

netcodes is genius.

..hi all..
..just a random thought, when considering infinite scale ability + fun..
.."lemmings"..
..you remember......
..for those that don't, you're not a true nerd..fuck off....
nxo

PoS can't redistribute from HODLers to users. Users drive the economy. HODLers strangle it.

However, PoW in its current incarnations can't redistribute either, due to economies-of-scale in mining such as ASICs and cheap electricity.

For all those up thread expressing opinion about priorities and why should I expend effort on naming now, here is a potentially $billion lesson for you.

Is it unfair that Michael Jordan earns a $100 million annually for doing nothing but smoke cigars. Or is it because he had his priorities correct and ignored the political bullshit:

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2015/11/06/kareem-abdul-jabbar-michael-jordan-took-commerce-over-conscience/


First let's give credit to f2000 for first raising the potential of "chain":


Above I was thinking about "chain" as it relates to the technicalities of a block chain, and not as its apt meaning for describing a social networking phenomenon, i.e. that the participants are chaining together for some synergy, e.g.:


As for a name incorporating "chain", the users would need to somehow relate to this name as being relevant to the activity they desire. So basically there will be some service or good the user wants to participate in and they need this "thing" to get access (or this "thing" is alternative means of access, e.g. instead of filling up an advertising captcha, etc). Thus ClickChain seems to capture the original intent I had with Clickz and is much more explicit about the social networking synergy.

So instead of naming the currency units, you name the social network phenomenon. So you want access to some service that requires micro-transactions (or puts an advertising captcha or video in your face instead) or you want to earn micro-transactions, then you need to "join the clickchain" or "get some netcodes". I am not sure which name is better. The currency denomination is 'netcodes' if we use netcodes. If we use clickchain, we'd also need a name for the currency units such as 'netcodes' (or "click codes"), "chain credits", 'clicodes', 'cliqodes', 'klicodes', 'qliqode'.

ZapChain conveys fast and perhaps some social networking chain, but fast is not the attribute of desire or need in social networking. And the 'chain' dangles there without any support, thus it isn't clear this name means a social networking chaining. Whereas, Clichain (ClickChain) is more clearly some synergistic internet chain (since 'click' has dual meanings of the action of pressing of button and synergizing socially.

I can't fathom how users will relate to ZapChain as the name of a currency. It could be a platform where users are zapping BTC for those sites which say they support ZapChain functionality, but then eventually no one needs ZapChain and they will just say "zap me some Bitcoin" (and who cares what the competing technology that is being used to accomplish it). Sounds to me that ZapChain is some attempt to brand the upcoming Lightning Networks (LN). I think Coinbase hopes to become a LN server. Appears the people who chose the name were thinking the "chain" refers to the chain of transactions that form a LN conduit between payer and payee, and the "zap" of course refers to speed. They weren't focused on the social context of the name apparently.

The necessary opcode for LN has been added to the next release of Bitcoin for early 2016:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/checklocktimeverify-or-how-a-time-lock-patch-will-boost-bitcoin-s-potential-1446658530

Appears ZapChain will offer some social networking communities and then I suppose facilitate micro-transactions denominated in BTC by using some centralized server that holds balances (or later perhaps the LN concept). The problem for their concept is similar to Voxelus, in that they are just one social networking app. They can't be an ecosystem by themselves, unless they are creating a protocol, API, and platform for other apps. So I must assume they are really hoping to become a platform business built around LN.

I foresee a disadvantage for LN because you can't just pay anyone, any time with permission-less commerce. Lightning Networks (LN) requires that participants open LN conduits on the same sub-network. Also afaics LN can't support end-to-end anonymity. LN is a corporate takeover model for Bitcoin, and so the question is will LN scale network effects as fast as a fully decentralized alternative. I am betting on "no" and thus I am proceeding with creating the fully decentralized alternative. Also I am contemplating supporting a LN technology as well, as it may have applications where it is ideally suited (but I don't think this social networking micro-TX network effects is the best suited to LN as compared to my decentralized micro-TX block chain design).

Forget yoobit, as I said there are too many copycat permutations:

https://yobit.net/en/

Was my previous post regarding ZapChain completely irrelevent to this discussion? The concept of tipping contributors with "Bits".

ZapChain is also launching a new digital community creation tool today. Users can customize community incentives using bitcoin, meaning that micropayments can be made to those who post content, start discussions and sell products or services.

I think the name ZapChain is pretty snappy. Would it have been considered if not already used?

What is hilarious is that so many people don't realize I am taking on Google and advertising as a model for the web. Do these dolts think users want these fucking ads on their Youtubes.

I am contented that Aeon's community likes the name. And I am contented with Netcodes because it is precisely the best name for marketing directly to users. I am quite ecstatic that no one seems to grasp the "killer app" which is right under their nose and I have even explained it yesterday, but still I assume readers don't have a clue. Which is perfect. I am smirking from ear-to-ear that there are so many marketing dunces on this forum who think netcodes is a poor name. When they get their ass handed to them in the marketplace, it is going to be so sweet the taste of seeing them realize they've been PWN3D.

Netcash (or Netgold) is perfect for those who want decentralized store-of-value.


Yeah I like that also, except it is sometimes associated with drugs. Netcodes seems more direct-to-the-point though (need access to some web resource, thus you need to get some netcodes). Cyberjuice has more pizzazz.

Btw, I also don't like credits because I associate it with debt.


Hahaha. Okay fool I challenge you to not buy what I am creating. Will you make that promise? Put your words where your foot is. (this is going to be fun)

RAJ my man, as you know I was horridly sick for the past 3 years. Also I think perhaps you dismiss that I was first to invent Zero Knowledge Transactions in June/July. Since you have a similar condition to mine (yet apparently not as debilitating), then you should have some clue that my production was not retarded by my choice of actions, but rather by chronic fucking fatigue and autoimmune hell. Hope you reviewed my latest treatment regimen, because for 3+ weeks I've for the most part not had significant CFS, headaches, etc.. Note for the past week or so, I stopped taking the antibiotics. Also increased the Magnesium, Niacin, and added vitamin C.

Hey! He's an artist.

Makes me sad to see you're still brainstorming names, just like you were with me and a few others in April 2014. Like I said then use your energy to complete the damn coin instead of waisting so much time on names which tbh probably aren't so important in the end anyway.

Have just been reading about ZapChain:

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-social-network-zapchain-raises-350k/

"...ZapChain is also launching a new digital community creation tool today. Users can customize community incentives using bitcoin, meaning that micropayments can be made to those who post content, start discussions and sell products or services..."

EDIT:

https://www.zapchain.com/a/l/zapchain-a-little-explanation/lrKyNSmcWo

"What does it mean to add a reward to a question?

Adding a reward means giving people who answer your question bits, which are small amounts of money. It incentivized the ZapChain community to provide the best answers possible for your question."

 
  
Since money is literally a ledger of debt, that is fine by me.  Creating fake debt out of thin air is what is happening now, and that is bad, but keeping track of legitimate debt is the entire purpose of money.  But this is TPTB's thread; I'll take my ion, aeon, and credit chat elsewhere.  
  
To stay on Topic, TPTB - I hope that your super-tangle currency focuses on the issue of infinite scalability.  Even if it falls short on the privacy front, there may be a future for it if it can be used by the average consumer to buy coffee with.