Need a PayPal refund for your BFL purchase? - page 14.

Bicknellski

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Quote from: lajz99 on September 17, 2013, 10:56:05 AM

Quote from: DigitalHermit on September 17, 2013, 10:45:20 AM

Quote from: lajz99 on September 17, 2013, 10:41:57 AM

Holy hell guys...I just responded to 70+ requests for information and have at least 6 responses confirming refunds to add to the list.
I've gotta do a little work (yea, I've got a grown up job), but will respond to any more requests that come in around lunch time. Keep em coming!!!

Glad to hear you are earning a nice side income through "refund consulting" tips. Grin

I will say although I have received quite a few tips, this has also turned out to be quite time consuming so they are greatly appreciated. At this point I'm responding to at LEAST 100 messages/day, some of them I can send a standard response to, others have questions that require a personal touch and with the 26 second delay to send messages it takes quite a bit of time out of my day.

It's all for a good cause though which is why I do it!

You are a hero.

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lajz99

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Quote from: DigitalHermit on September 17, 2013, 10:45:20 AM

Quote from: lajz99 on September 17, 2013, 10:41:57 AM

Holy hell guys...I just responded to 70+ requests for information and have at least 6 responses confirming refunds to add to the list.
I've gotta do a little work (yea, I've got a grown up job), but will respond to any more requests that come in around lunch time. Keep em coming!!!

Glad to hear you are earning a nice side income through "refund consulting" tips. Grin

I will say although I have received quite a few tips, this has also turned out to be quite time consuming so they are greatly appreciated. At this point I'm responding to at LEAST 100 messages/day, some of them I can send a standard response to, others have questions that require a personal touch and with the 26 second delay to send messages it takes quite a bit of time out of my day.

It's all for a good cause though which is why I do it!

DigitalHermit

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Thank you! Thank you! ...

Quote from: lajz99 on September 17, 2013, 10:41:57 AM

Holy hell guys...I just responded to 70+ requests for information and have at least 6 responses confirming refunds to add to the list.
I've gotta do a little work (yea, I've got a grown up job), but will respond to any more requests that come in around lunch time. Keep em coming!!!

Glad to hear you are earning a nice side income through "refund consulting" tips. Grin

lajz99

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Holy hell guys...I just responded to 70+ requests for information and have at least 6 responses confirming refunds to add to the list.

I've gotta do a little work (yea, I've got a grown up job), but will respond to any more requests that come in around lunch time. Keep em coming!!!

Dwayne7

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Wow, this method works incredibly well. I got a refund for my $1,333 order within 10 hours. I really appreciate your help lajz99. Thank you so much!

I sent you a little tip for your help: e9d309c578c52ff5e4b2eceeffae4aacacd07c6988d2bea6f7b4db7eaacd6e4e

Dwayne

tom99

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Thank lajz99 and your tip on way to your LTC wall.

dex1

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It worked for me although it took 5 days to get money back on my account which doesnt really matter
when one has been waiting for months or years.

Thank you lajz99

Code:

Small tip for your help. 
From dex1 to lajz99

https://blockchain.info/tx/61c84a29b44db1c0ebe2480142d4a24fee0cfd957b0405fade00ad849adc3ba5

H8yYdCUN484Wd19WYr1Sc5r71Rk93zJxFITpcBKJAvC3jQ2YDhImTqxtiK+QPImG3u1xKD7XWmhsjy3/RQW/A2w=

Kapz786

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Quote from: ?? on ??

For reference, this is the email I wrote which go a reply the same day (with refund).

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Subject: Complaint about Butterfly Labs Inc. fraud

I have a complaint to file against a Paypal merchant, BF Labs Inc, ([email protected])

This company is now famous on the internet for defrauding customers and has defrauded me of over $4,600

I bought physical goods on a pre-order basis in March and April on the understanding they would be delivered any time between 2 weeks and up to 2 months. I was not aware Paypal strictly forbids pre-orders. They proceeded to delay the delivery of these orders citing technical difficulties. They constantly give deceptive updates which I believe were entirely designed to cause the expiry of Paypal's 45 day limit on disputes.

Unfortunately, I believed their lies and gave them the benefit of the doubt. I then came to know one of the company's founders is a convicted felon who is still on probation for running a previous "long con" operation.

I eventually decided to give up and request a refund: emailed the company several times to request a refund, but I was summarily refused, and finally repeated requests are just flat out ignored. I still to date have not received delivery of my orders.

Here are the transaction ID

[paypal transaction ID list]

Unfortunately most of these payments were made with paypal balances so I am not able to initiate any chargeback via my card company.

I filed claims in the paypal dispute center but they were automatically closed because it's outside the 45 day period.

[paypal dispute reference list]

I came to understand that Paypal can escalate this issue to give a refund because basically Bf Labs Inc have broken the Paypal terms of service by selling products on a "pre-order basis".
My understanding is Paypal requires merchants to deliver goods within 20 days of an order being placed.

I would be very grateful if you could escalate this issue and refund my money. I have been a loyal customer for over 12 years and hope Paypal can protect us consumers from fraudsters like this.

Yours sincerely,

[name]
Paypal account: [my paypal email]
Paypal merchant ID: [my paypal merchant ID available in the profile section]

Tel [my phone numbers]

Good email but FYI for anyone else I just wrote a couple of lines short and sweet and it refunded quickly. I honestly think any mention of Bfl and they instantly refund they are that sick of them

BKM

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Quote from: dawo5010 on September 16, 2013, 11:18:40 PM

+1 this guy is awesome. Managed to get a refund within less than 24 hours!

BFL Jallies are useless anyway Tongue

Thank you again!

I have free power and thus would still like my gear in a timely fashion. I have received the info via PM as to how to get the virtually instant PP refund and have notified BFL that they have until September 23rd to ship or I will initiate the refund process with PP...... what did BFL do? Abbey sent me a form email stating all sales are final etc etc.....

Let's be clear, I WANT my gear - I want it by the end of September as this is when BFL has stated numerous times that my orders would be shipped. Josh even revised the date for backlog clearance to the end of April and all my orders are prior to the end of March..... I'll still wait another week before I send the email to PP just to be sure that the dead horse is indeed beaten to the utter pulp it would appear to be from a distance...... And should the virtually inevitable outcome happen that I get my refund I will send my tip to the OP and include a note on the transaction to be stored forever in the blockchain that I refunded BFL orders #### from PP thanks to him

Kapz786

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Another +1 refund received within hours - amazing... no questions asked just reversed immediately.

southerngentuk

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Thank you for your PM, obviously this is no help for me and others who payed by bank TX/ BTC .

What we really need here now is someone with a legal perspective on consumer rights within the US to provide advice and a way forward for those remaining.

There has to be someone in this forum with such a contact. Even if they acted on a 10 % commission fee they could do well. Shocked

@Josh The game is almost up my friend Wink

RIP Butterfly Labs

dawo5010

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+1 this guy is awesome. Managed to get a refund within less than 24 hours!

BFL Jallies are useless anyway Tongue

Thank you again!

lajz99

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NICE! Not only is the number of refunds increasing but the $ value is AMAZING! Glad to see people getting those large orders taken care of.

gork68

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Ok just wanted to say this is legit! Funny thing is I went this route last week or maybe more and nothing came of it. After shooting the PM he gave me an additional email addy at paypal that I did not have previously. this second email is golden. I just received this email from paypal...

Dear Ms. Laura ...,

Thank you for reaching out to PayPal regarding your concerns with your Butterfly Lab transactions. We take situations like this very seriously and are pleased to inform you we have been in direct communication with Butterfly Labs and your payment has been refunded.

If your original payment was funded with a credit card, the refund will be returned to your credit card. If you funded the payment via your bank account or PayPal balance, the funds will be returned to your PayPal balance.

Thank you for being a valued customer!

Sincerely,
Timothy
PayPal

lajz99

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Quote from: phortran on September 16, 2013, 07:09:54 PM

Worked for me, extremely fast too, thanks again lajz99!

Glad to hear it worked out for you!

And thank you again to those who have sent tips! I don't always know who you are, but do know that I appreciate it!

phortran

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Worked for me, extremely fast too, thanks again lajz99!

lajz99

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Quote from: cad_cdn on September 16, 2013, 10:38:55 AM

any help for TH paypal buyers?

Shoot me a message and let's give it a shot!

cad_cdn

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any help for TH paypal buyers?

klondike_bar

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i did his method late last week, and within 48hrs got an email saying my purchase/payment was cancelled and reversed, with my money back in the paypal account!

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For those who want to see the reviews of people whom Lajz99 has helped in his previous thread (before it got derailed):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/want-a-bfl-paypal-refund-pm-me-291205

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