+ POI
Where could I read more about it? I contacted utopianfuture regarding some issues related to POI but got no answer. He is not a tech guy, so I should contact a developer. Who is writing the core?
btw, has NXT whitepaper benn finally published?
Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 238. (Read 661498 times)
April 04, 2014, 01:24:45 AM
Where could I read more about it? I contacted utopianfuture regarding some issues related to POI but got no answer. He is not a tech guy, so I should contact a developer. Who is writing the core?
btw, has NXT whitepaper benn finally published?
April 04, 2014, 12:05:18 AM
True. You can save your coins on your PC with offspring.
For those of you new to digital currencies and maybe hoping to get a sizeable amount of NEM... I thought I would correct this and add a few points.
You never 'save' your coins on your PC, you never actually possess them - you 'save' the 'keys' or 'passphrase' to your coins in a wallet if the client implements this - usually the wallet is encrypted with an easier to remember, but still strong password.
You can use your 'passphrase' anywhere with any client as long as you can input it into the client.
Your 'passphrase' is NOT a 'password' is has to be very strong and usually 20 ideally 30+ characters which is why you store it in a wallet and BACKUP the wallet please..
I will one up this. People say they are storing there bitcoins in "cold storage" or "off line" but they way I understand it, that's not really true. With nxt or NEM or even bitcoin, you can never have a coin on your computer. In all three systems, all the coins always exist only on the blockchain. This is one reason they are not able to be counterfeited. (People simply can't just add extra conks to the blockchain as this only happens under very precise circumstances that are easily observed) What people control on their computer are the keys to move coins to one place on the ledger to another place, but they coins themselves don't ever leave the ledger. Bitcoin uses "wallets" which are basically fancy programs for managing and storing passwords that unlock the ability to move the coins. Nxt just forces people to use a really difficult password. Both systems provide protection via their complexity, though the complexity manifests in different avenues.
I might be wrong as I'm new at this. If so, please correct me.
Alright. Thanks guys. I'm quite new (dec 2013) and not technical so I shouldn't answered the question in the first place.
Learned a lot though.
April 03, 2014, 11:36:07 PM
I wish to contact with person responsible for NeM website - may contribute with translation.
April 03, 2014, 10:16:07 PM
I was advised by my cousin that told me how to get signed up for this NEM currency that I should go online and I should go on this board and that I should post in this thread if I wanted to keep my place in line for this IPO or else someone would steal it from me. Why would this happen?
This is not an IPO. You are expected to contribute so you might not be suitable if you are new to the crypto scene.
I do mean every stakeholders are expected to contribute in building NEM. It does not necessarily mean you need to contribute something right now since you could help NEM in the future by running nodes, spreading the words etc. The key word is that stakeholders are expected to contribute at some point. If you think of it as an IPO and you are an investor, then NEM is not for you at this phase.
In short, stakeholders = contributors. Investors = someone putting money in and expect others to do the works, coding, promoting etc. This should be made clear.
I'm still a bit confused by this statement! What should i do exactly to Contribute in NEM?
Very good question. What's the consequence for "not contributing?" And who determines what a contribution is and how it is scored?
*EDIT*
Cleared a bit in above post.
April 03, 2014, 09:58:42 PM
I find it impertinent first to attract the people to get great attention, and now that NEM seems to be very popular to tell people that they should participate, and that newcomers in the cryptoscene are not suitable!
Sorry for this harsh words, but that's my opinion, and I think I'm not the only one!
Anyway, I stand behind NEM, and will do everything to support this project!
Sorry for this harsh words, but that's my opinion, and I think I'm not the only one!
Anyway, I stand behind NEM, and will do everything to support this project!
There is a consequence (legal) to use the term IPO and consider NEM as an investment. It is not correct as well because of the way NEM is conceptualized and NEM is a decentralized entity. The term that I has been using so far is "a call for participation"and that means all stakeholders should contribute to build NEM network and NEM community. This idea was there since the beginning but it might not get the attention so I stressed it again from times to times.
To the question of what to contribute. It is entirely up to you. Since NEM is decentralized, no one has any formal authority over others. If you are a developer and want to work on NEM codes with other core developers then we would be very happy to have you. But it is not necessary and you are welcome to contribute in a simple, small and individualistic way. It is perfectly fine as long as you don't consider yourself an investor and expect others to produce certain results.
April 03, 2014, 09:01:15 PM
Guys, there is an interesting discussion about NEM vs NXT created my a stakeholder. A few people have said and asked very interesting questions.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-vs-nem-555401
if you have something to contribute to the discussion please join
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-vs-nem-555401
if you have something to contribute to the discussion please join
Yea, I was watching this thread and didn't expected you will get 5 pages in 1 day and almost no trolling.
This sounds promising.
BTW - I feel like the best way to promote our NEM will be as usual giveaway.
Everyone who is active on some forums should offer free NEMs to others.
If we spent for giveaway only 1% of our stake coins NEM - we may easilly overthrow NXT.
Strength of any currency lying in mass adoption. Don't be to greedy and think abouy it to be ready right after we start.
For sure a good call. Holding and being generous will lead to adoption if people are passionate about it. But make sure not everyone holds or it won't be used
April 03, 2014, 08:59:32 PM
Guys, there is an interesting discussion about NEM vs NXT created my a stakeholder. A few people have said and asked very interesting questions.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-vs-nem-555401
if you have something to contribute to the discussion please join
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-vs-nem-555401
if you have something to contribute to the discussion please join
Yea, I was watching this thread and didn't expected you will get 5 pages in 1 day and almost no trolling.
This sounds promising.
BTW - I feel like the best way to promote our NEM will be as usual giveaway.
Everyone who is active on some forums should offer free NEMs to others.
If we spent for giveaway only 1% of our stake coins NEM - we may easilly overthrow NXT.
Strength of any currency lying in mass adoption. Don't be to greedy and think abouy it to be ready right after we start.
April 03, 2014, 08:22:28 PM
True. You can save your coins on your PC with offspring.
For those of you new to digital currencies and maybe hoping to get a sizeable amount of NEM... I thought I would correct this and add a few points.
You never 'save' your coins on your PC, you never actually possess them - you 'save' the 'keys' or 'passphrase' to your coins in a wallet if the client implements this - usually the wallet is encrypted with an easier to remember, but still strong password.
You can use your 'passphrase' anywhere with any client as long as you can input it into the client.
Your 'passphrase' is NOT a 'password' is has to be very strong and usually 20 ideally 30+ characters which is why you store it in a wallet and BACKUP the wallet please..
I will one up this. People say they are storing there bitcoins in "cold storage" or "off line" but they way I understand it, that's not really true. With nxt or NEM or even bitcoin, you can never have a coin on your computer. In all three systems, all the coins always exist only on the blockchain. This is one reason they are not able to be counterfeited. (People simply can't just add extra conks to the blockchain as this only happens under very precise circumstances that are easily observed) What people control on their computer are the keys to move coins to one place on the ledger to another place, but they coins themselves don't ever leave the ledger. Bitcoin uses "wallets" which are basically fancy programs for managing and storing passwords that unlock the ability to move the coins. Nxt just forces people to use a really difficult password. Both systems provide protection via their complexity, though the complexity manifests in different avenues.
I might be wrong as I'm new at this. If so, please correct me.
April 03, 2014, 05:39:58 PM
Guys, there is an interesting discussion about NEM vs NXT created my a stakeholder. A few people have said and asked very interesting questions.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-vs-nem-555401
if you have something to contribute to the discussion please join
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-vs-nem-555401
if you have something to contribute to the discussion please join
FWIW, I think it's too early for this discussion. The common refrain from detractors will be "vaporware"! I think it's better to hold off on this type of discussion until at least after the alpha is released.
Hey man! Awesome work!
Any chance we could have a sneaky coding update??
April 03, 2014, 05:26:49 PM
I ve read your comment. Your last sentence totally killed it!
You should write articles for NEM. Would be good if we would have some nicely written articles on NEM ready with launch.
You should write articles for NEM. Would be good if we would have some nicely written articles on NEM ready with launch.
nice post man, that was a knockout punch lol
lolI'm flattered guys! I'm more than willing to help write any promotional material for NEM closer to release!
April 03, 2014, 05:17:57 PM
I've posted the F.A.Q. to the NEM Forum too, for those who are interested. I'll keep it updated as much as possible.
April 03, 2014, 05:08:46 PM
For the logo team. This may help determine the color for NEM.
How Businesses Use Color to Affect Emotion webmag.co/how-businesses-use-color-to-affect-emotion
Color and Web Design webmag.co/173
How Businesses Use Color to Affect Emotion webmag.co/how-businesses-use-color-to-affect-emotion
Color and Web Design webmag.co/173
Here is one more, the Psychology of Fonts.
webmag.co/psychology-of-fonts
All of the marketing and SEO infographics are here.
webmag.co/category/infographics
April 03, 2014, 05:06:51 PM
Guys, there is an interesting discussion about NEM vs NXT created my a stakeholder. A few people have said and asked very interesting questions.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-vs-nem-555401
if you have something to contribute to the discussion please join
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-vs-nem-555401
if you have something to contribute to the discussion please join
FWIW, I think it's too early for this discussion. The common refrain from detractors will be "vaporware"! I think it's better to hold off on this type of discussion until at least after the alpha is released.
I am not a detractor and I am still calling it vaporware. Because according to wikipedia, it is exactely that at this moment in time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
Once the testnet is up, lets see what the devs came up with, until then, lets rather focus on creating new features or talk about concepts!
April 03, 2014, 04:59:09 PM
Guys, there is an interesting discussion about NEM vs NXT created my a stakeholder. A few people have said and asked very interesting questions.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-vs-nem-555401
if you have something to contribute to the discussion please join
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-vs-nem-555401
if you have something to contribute to the discussion please join
FWIW, I think it's too early for this discussion. The common refrain from detractors will be "vaporware"! I think it's better to hold off on this type of discussion until at least after the alpha is released.
April 03, 2014, 04:40:22 PM
then I must apologize. Sorry. I'll support NEM in any case, as far as i can.
April 03, 2014, 04:30:10 PM
I find it impertinent first to attract the people to get great attention, and now that NEM seems to be very popular to tell people that they should participate, and that newcomers in the cryptoscene are not suitable!
Sorry for this harsh words, but that's my opinion, and I think I'm not the only one!
Anyway, I stand behind NEM, and will do everything to support this project!
Sorry for this harsh words, but that's my opinion, and I think I'm not the only one!
Anyway, I stand behind NEM, and will do everything to support this project!
I may be wrong, but I think that first phaze of distribution "3000" was oriented on both veterans and newcomers, now NEM is searching more for skilled people, that could actively help. Atleast that is how I understand it. And yes, everyone should participate and help the way he/she is able. That should be natural.
April 03, 2014, 03:43:09 PM
I find it impertinent first to attract the people to get great attention, and now that NEM seems to be very popular to tell people that they should participate, and that newcomers in the cryptoscene are not suitable!
Sorry for this harsh words, but that's my opinion, and I think I'm not the only one!
Anyway, I stand behind NEM, and will do everything to support this project!
Sorry for this harsh words, but that's my opinion, and I think I'm not the only one!
Anyway, I stand behind NEM, and will do everything to support this project!
April 03, 2014, 03:29:22 PM
I was advised by my cousin that told me how to get signed up for this NEM currency that I should go online and I should go on this board and that I should post in this thread if I wanted to keep my place in line for this IPO or else someone would steal it from me. Why would this happen?
This is not an IPO. You are expected to contribute so you might not be suitable if you are new to the crypto scene.
I do mean every stakeholders are expected to contribute in building NEM. It does not necessarily mean you need to contribute something right now since you could help NEM in the future by running nodes, spreading the words etc. The key word is that stakeholders are expected to contribute at some point. If you think of it as an IPO and you are an investor, then NEM is not for you at this phase.
In short, stakeholders = contributors. Investors = someone putting money in and expect others to do the works, coding, promoting etc. This should be made clear.
I'm still a bit confused by this statement! What should i do exactly to Contribute in NEM?
April 03, 2014, 03:18:41 PM
Guys, there is an interesting discussion about NEM vs NXT created my a stakeholder. A few people have said and asked very interesting questions.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-vs-nem-555401
if you have something to contribute to the discussion please join
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-vs-nem-555401
if you have something to contribute to the discussion please join
I've contributed. Let's try not to turn this into a flame war, but an intelligent discussion!
nice post man, that was a knockout punch
lolYeah, really nice vaporware punch. Right in the steam!!!!
April 03, 2014, 02:35:49 PM
Guys, there is an interesting discussion about NEM vs NXT created my a stakeholder. A few people have said and asked very interesting questions.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-vs-nem-555401
if you have something to contribute to the discussion please join
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-vs-nem-555401
if you have something to contribute to the discussion please join
I've contributed. Let's try not to turn this into a flame war, but an intelligent discussion!
nice post man, that was a knockout punch
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