[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 240.

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Quote from: patmast3r on April 03, 2014, 07:39:43 AM

Quote from: WayToGo on April 03, 2014, 07:23:25 AM

Can someone give me the best answer for this query, which was asked in a different thread.

What does NEM hope to deliver that makes it much better than NXT? I know this sounds like a defensive attacking question but it's not, I genuinely want to know what is the best at least on paper if all things promised are delivered?

+ Initial distribution
+ POI
+ kickass client at launch

There is much more "under the hood" stuff that is being worked on though. I can't say anything about that because it hasn't been officially anounced yet and I don't want to overpromise (in case something goes south and things don't make it into the release).

+Obivously the whole team (whichi includes the entire community, devs, ...).

Nice points.
When do we know more about "under the hood" features?
Thx.

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Quote from: DeerCoin on April 03, 2014, 09:14:13 AM

I was advised by my cousin that told me how to get signed up for this NEM currency that I should go online and I should go on this board and that I should post in this thread if I wanted to keep my place in line for this IPO or else someone would steal it from me. Why would this happen?

This is not an IPO. You are expected to contribute so you might not be suitable if you are new to the crypto scene.

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Quote from: patmast3r on April 03, 2014, 07:39:43 AM

+ POI

Where could I read more about it? I contacted utopianfuture regarding some issues related to POI but got no answer. He is not a tech guy, so I should contact a developer. Who is writing the core?

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Quote from: Jaguar0625 on April 03, 2014, 07:29:57 AM

Quote from: Fatih87SK on April 03, 2014, 12:08:30 AM

Quote from: swartzfeger on April 02, 2014, 06:32:54 PM

Quote from: Thingamajig on April 02, 2014, 05:42:30 PM

Quote from: TauMuon on April 02, 2014, 03:09:44 PM

There are many merits and failings of both brain wallets and desktop wallets. To be honest, I think it's just a matter of personal preference...

It's an interesting discussion, but I think it's pretty much a finality that NEM will be using a desktop wallet system. A poll on the forum a while back, plus a general browse on forums, shows that desktop wallets are preferred by the vast majority of people.

Perhaps the fact that this discussion is happening indicates that a new wallet system is needed, a hybrid of brain and desktop wallets. Perhaps something for the NEM developers to think about in the future?

I'm not one for online wallets to be honest. In fact i'm not one for anything "online" based as i feel i have far less control over the security of whatever it is in question (Whether that be software or, in this case, currency)

A hybrid would be ideal. This to me was the biggest downfall of NXT as online storage has more cons than pro's.

Offspring for Nxt (Win/Mac/Linux) supports local wallets, I believe:

https://github.com/incentivetoken/offspring

True. You can save your coins on your PC with offspring.

At its core, NXT is using a brain wallet. I'm not sure how you can save coins to your PC, unless you are referring to backing up the pass-phrase? Even so, it seems like they could still be unlocked by the network. Or am I missing something?

You know BTC is a brain wallet too right? The wallet of the QT is just a clientside implemention...

The more you know Wink

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Quote from: DeerCoin on April 03, 2014, 09:14:13 AM

I was advised by my cousin that told me how to get signed up for this NEM currency that I should go online and I should go on this board and that I should post in this thread if I wanted to keep my place in line for this IPO or else someone would steal it from me. Why would this happen?

Ask your cousing why this would happen. Clearly he missunderstood something.

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I was advised by my cousin that told me how to get signed up for this NEM currency that I should go online and I should go on this board and that I should post in this thread if I wanted to keep my place in line for this IPO or else someone would steal it from me. Why would this happen?

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Quote from: WayToGo on April 03, 2014, 07:50:52 AM

Quote from: patmast3r on April 03, 2014, 07:39:43 AM

Quote from: WayToGo on April 03, 2014, 07:23:25 AM

Can someone give me the best answer for this query, which was asked in a different thread.

What does NEM hope to deliver that makes it much better than NXT? I know this sounds like a defensive attacking question but it's not, I genuinely want to know what is the best at least on paper if all things promised are delivered?

+ Initial distribution
+ POI
+ kickass client at launch

There is much more "under the hood" stuff that is being worked on though. I can't say anything about that because it hasn't been officially anounced yet and I don't want to overpromise (in case something goes south and things don't make it into the release).

+Obivously the whole team (whichi includes the entire community, devs, ...).

Thanks for answering so promptly. Grin

+1, thx!

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Quote from: patmast3r on April 03, 2014, 07:39:43 AM

Quote from: WayToGo on April 03, 2014, 07:23:25 AM

Can someone give me the best answer for this query, which was asked in a different thread.

What does NEM hope to deliver that makes it much better than NXT? I know this sounds like a defensive attacking question but it's not, I genuinely want to know what is the best at least on paper if all things promised are delivered?

+ Initial distribution
+ POI
+ kickass client at launch

There is much more "under the hood" stuff that is being worked on though. I can't say anything about that because it hasn't been officially anounced yet and I don't want to overpromise (in case something goes south and things don't make it into the release).

+Obivously the whole team (whichi includes the entire community, devs, ...).

Thanks for answering so promptly. Grin

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Quote from: Jaguar0625 on April 03, 2014, 07:29:57 AM

Quote from: Fatih87SK on April 03, 2014, 12:08:30 AM

Quote from: swartzfeger on April 02, 2014, 06:32:54 PM

Quote from: Thingamajig on April 02, 2014, 05:42:30 PM

Quote from: TauMuon on April 02, 2014, 03:09:44 PM

There are many merits and failings of both brain wallets and desktop wallets. To be honest, I think it's just a matter of personal preference...

It's an interesting discussion, but I think it's pretty much a finality that NEM will be using a desktop wallet system. A poll on the forum a while back, plus a general browse on forums, shows that desktop wallets are preferred by the vast majority of people.

Perhaps the fact that this discussion is happening indicates that a new wallet system is needed, a hybrid of brain and desktop wallets. Perhaps something for the NEM developers to think about in the future?

I'm not one for online wallets to be honest. In fact i'm not one for anything "online" based as i feel i have far less control over the security of whatever it is in question (Whether that be software or, in this case, currency)

A hybrid would be ideal. This to me was the biggest downfall of NXT as online storage has more cons than pro's.

Offspring for Nxt (Win/Mac/Linux) supports local wallets, I believe:

https://github.com/incentivetoken/offspring

True. You can save your coins on your PC with offspring.

At its core, NXT is using a brain wallet. I'm not sure how you can save coins to your PC, unless you are referring to backing up the pass-phrase? Even so, it seems like they could still be unlocked by the network. Or am I missing something?

https://github.com/incentivetoken/offspring/tree/master/com.dgex.offspring.wallet/src/com/dgex/offspring/wallet

I guess you can "backup" your wallet. Skiming the code it looks like you store your password encrypted locally but of course that doesn't mean noone can access that account anymore.
Imho this gives a complete false sense of security since it suggests that you store your coins locally.

May have missunderstood the code though...

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Quote from: WayToGo on April 03, 2014, 07:23:25 AM

Can someone give me the best answer for this query, which was asked in a different thread.

What does NEM hope to deliver that makes it much better than NXT? I know this sounds like a defensive attacking question but it's not, I genuinely want to know what is the best at least on paper if all things promised are delivered?

+ Initial distribution
+ POI
+ kickass client at launch

There is much more "under the hood" stuff that is being worked on though. I can't say anything about that because it hasn't been officially anounced yet and I don't want to overpromise (in case something goes south and things don't make it into the release).

+Obivously the whole team (whichi includes the entire community, devs, ...).

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Quote from: Fatih87SK on April 03, 2014, 12:08:30 AM

Quote from: swartzfeger on April 02, 2014, 06:32:54 PM

Quote from: Thingamajig on April 02, 2014, 05:42:30 PM

Quote from: TauMuon on April 02, 2014, 03:09:44 PM

There are many merits and failings of both brain wallets and desktop wallets. To be honest, I think it's just a matter of personal preference...

It's an interesting discussion, but I think it's pretty much a finality that NEM will be using a desktop wallet system. A poll on the forum a while back, plus a general browse on forums, shows that desktop wallets are preferred by the vast majority of people.

Perhaps the fact that this discussion is happening indicates that a new wallet system is needed, a hybrid of brain and desktop wallets. Perhaps something for the NEM developers to think about in the future?

I'm not one for online wallets to be honest. In fact i'm not one for anything "online" based as i feel i have far less control over the security of whatever it is in question (Whether that be software or, in this case, currency)

A hybrid would be ideal. This to me was the biggest downfall of NXT as online storage has more cons than pro's.

Offspring for Nxt (Win/Mac/Linux) supports local wallets, I believe:

https://github.com/incentivetoken/offspring

True. You can save your coins on your PC with offspring.

At its core, NXT is using a brain wallet. I'm not sure how you can save coins to your PC, unless you are referring to backing up the pass-phrase? Even so, it seems like they could still be unlocked by the network. Or am I missing something?

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Quote from: pabloangello on April 03, 2014, 05:49:46 AM

Quote from: Fatih87SK on April 03, 2014, 05:47:09 AM

Quote from: instacalm on April 02, 2014, 03:09:39 PM

http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html

Is this the client design prototype?

This is fckng awesome!

It doesn't look like wallet, it looks like some kind of web-dev framework.

edit:
Yes it is Bootstrap Wink

Here: https://wrapbootstrap.com/theme/barnie-minimal-admin-theme-WB0R67929

Nothing wrong with that of course. Just integrate it with NEM Cheesy

Great and Impressive, This is the real BTC 2.0!

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Can someone give me the best answer for this query, which was asked in a different thread.

What does NEM hope to deliver that makes it much better than NXT? I know this sounds like a defensive attacking question but it's not, I genuinely want to know what is the best at least on paper if all things promised are delivered?

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Quote from: Thingamajig on April 03, 2014, 06:32:42 AM

Quote from: j23a on April 03, 2014, 01:00:41 AM

Look at this Nem picture http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html#ajax/dashboard.html

Would it be possible to only release the source code (months after launch) of the everything related to how the coin works, but keep everything else close source for much, much, much longer?

That way the clones will stay very inferior, and not just anyone could copy it to the tune of 21+ coins per week.

This doesn't look in any way official.

I think I might have pasted the wrong thing, but it would be cool if that's what the web interface would look like for Nem.

I meant to post the wallet

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9jSTPeGZxgtdzZ5RVltMGhyOG8&usp=sharing&tid=0B9jSTPeGZxgtTjVncFlmMmJ6LW8

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Quote from: j23a on April 03, 2014, 01:00:41 AM

Look at this Nem picture http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html#ajax/dashboard.html

Would it be possible to only release the source code (months after launch) of the everything related to how the coin works, but keep everything else close source for much, much, much longer?

That way the clones will stay very inferior, and not just anyone could copy it to the tune of 21+ coins per week.

This doesn't look in any way official.

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fcking awesome....
neat interface.

would be a good integration, if it happens

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Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread
Today at 10:47:09 AM

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Quote from: instacash on April 02, 2014, 08:09:39 PM
http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html

Is this the client design prototype?

This is fckng awesome!

better than nxt client

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Quote from: Fatih87SK on April 03, 2014, 05:47:09 AM

Quote from: instacalm on April 02, 2014, 03:09:39 PM

http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html

Is this the client design prototype?

This is fckng awesome!

It doesn't look like wallet, it looks like some kind of web-dev framework.

edit:
Yes it is Bootstrap Wink

Here: https://wrapbootstrap.com/theme/barnie-minimal-admin-theme-WB0R67929

Nothing wrong with that of course. Just integrate it with NEM Cheesy

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Quote from: instacalm on April 02, 2014, 03:09:39 PM

http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html

Is this the client design prototype?

This is fckng awesome!

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Quote from: pabloangello on April 03, 2014, 04:35:54 AM

NEM - Nothing Else Matters! Cheesy

ok il go with that Cheesy

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