[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 375.

Mrrr

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Quote from: patmast3r on February 20, 2014, 02:17:56 PM

I think we should brainstorm about how to get a FIAT <-> NEM service going.
Any ideas ?

PayPal shuts you down before you can say "new econom... aaaan your shut down.

If you wan't to work with wire transfer you have to go through tons of legal issues.

Physically sending the money takes way to long.

I'm Prince George Ngangi and I've been successfully running a Western Union based business operation from an internet cafe in Abuja, Nigeria. I'd be more than willing to help you set this up.

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Quote from: Spider on February 20, 2014, 02:23:20 PM

Quote from: patmast3r on February 20, 2014, 02:17:56 PM

I think we should brainstorm about how to get a FIAT <-> NEM service going.
Any ideas ?

PayPal shuts you down before you can say "new econom... aaaan your shut down.

If you wan't to work with wire transfer you have to go through tons of legal issues.

Physically sending the money takes way to long.

We can start with
FIAT <-- BTC --> NEM

Yeah, well that's the basics...I sure hope will get that going but going beyond that would be a huge deal.
I wonder if we can get some exchange to treat NEM just like bitcoin....

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Quote from: patmast3r on February 20, 2014, 02:17:56 PM

I think we should brainstorm about how to get a FIAT <-> NEM service going.
Any ideas ?

PayPal shuts you down before you can say "new econom... aaaan your shut down.

If you wan't to work with wire transfer you have to go through tons of legal issues.

Physically sending the money takes way to long.

We can start with
FIAT <--> BTC <--> NEM

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Quote from: patmast3r on February 20, 2014, 02:17:56 PM

I think we should brainstorm about how to get a FIAT <-> NEM service going.
Any ideas ?

PayPal shuts you down before you can say "new econom... aaaan your shut down.

If you wan't to work with wire transfer you have to go through tons of legal issues.

Physically sending the money takes way to long.

No matter what it will be hard, but if Graviton gets his exchange running that could be one direction that possibly could make it happen.. Also by promoting it to other exchanges could be possible.

Otherwise someone will have a lot of work ahead :p

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I think we should brainstorm about how to get a FIAT <-> NEM service going.
Any ideas ?

PayPal shuts you down before you can say "new econom... aaaan your shut down.

If you wan't to work with wire transfer you have to go through tons of legal issues.

Physically sending the money takes way to long.

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Quote from: Bkcrewxxx on February 20, 2014, 10:51:56 AM

I might do some advertising on the btc-e trollbox. Does anyone know of any legit chatbots? I think I could get some people in here if we promises a small Nem giveaway for people joining up.

thats a great idea, why did I not think about that before Grin

. Its always very active and the right target audience. I will join you to. NEM to the moon Grin

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Quote from: erkki12 on February 20, 2014, 01:57:17 PM

Exactly! We all should keep in mind that the only thing that will bring currency real-life value is the possibility to buy things with it. Money is after all a medium designed to help us change one thing to another.

Once the coin gets launched it should be one of the highest priorities to get it used

!

+1

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Quote from: sjarkara on February 20, 2014, 01:23:31 PM

Quote from: TauMuon on February 20, 2014, 10:43:01 AM

Quote from: sjarkara on February 20, 2014, 10:22:40 AM

Quote from: utopianfuture on February 20, 2014, 09:02:06 AM

I temporarily took 2Kool4Skewl from NEM stakeholder list as I understand that he does not want to be there. In the first 20 pages of the fundraising, many people do not entirely understand about the scope as well as purpose of NEM so it was easy just to post "interested" there by a mistake. Contrary to what used to be in the first page of the fundraising thread , NEM do offer refund after the announcement of detail development plan (probably in 2 weeks or so) so if someone does not feel they fit in with NEM community, they can leave voluntarily.

As written in ournem.com, at this stage NEM is first of all a community of which people share a certain ideas and goals and we going to build NEM/ Nemcoin as our decentralized payment platform together as we go along. I see no reason to keep people that are unhappy with NEM and this approach. There are no coins to share yet so it is not like we are taking anything from anyone. If 2Kool4Skewl wants to join back in, just say so before I make the unified stakeholder list and I will add him in.

The majority of NEM funding comes from Bitcoin and only about 30% of NEM stakeholders appear in NXT discussion before (see an excellent statistics by newcn) so I see NXT and NEM having quite a different demographics, also different technology and purposes. While I think there is a certain aspect of competition between the two blockchain, we can learn from each others as well. Some are developers of both NXT and NEM and they work across the aisle and I think that is a good thing. It will help advancing experiments and innovations in more directions. Compared to Bitcoin and other POW coins, NXT and NEM have more similarity and we can join force to emphasize our strength in a green economical network and highlight the problems with the computational arm-races used by Bitcoin and other POW coins. Let's focus on cooperation and innovation instead of envy and hatred as that are also NEM's core concepts and principles.

BTW, we appreciate active participants much more than passive ones/ investors. So contact me if you want to help in any way. Thanks.

Well said. I totally agree. As for your appreciation for active members, I am reading this Forum for many months now, butt never became a member because as a coffee shop owner I have no programming skills and no designer skills. Further I prefer to read what members with knowledge of crypto currency have to tell then to add my own nonsense. I'm into Btc and people can actually pay with Btc in my shop. I'll be the first to accept NEM, because I really like the principles of this new direction you guys are taking this.

That is spectacular! It's one thing having an innovate crypto, but having places to spend it and use it as an actual currency will solidify and strengthen it's position in the crypto world. It's just awesome people like you are already considering accepting NEM as payment barely a month after it's announcement. It's giving me high hopes for NEM's future. Kudos!

If you can proof that you paid for your petrol with NEM, your second cup of coffee is for free. (I live in South Africa haha). After all its an alternative economic system we are working on not a ponzi scheme.

Exactly! We all should keep in mind that the only thing that will bring currency real-life value is the possibility to buy things with it. Money is after all a medium designed to help us change one thing to another.

Once the coin gets launched it should be one of the highest priorities to get it used

!

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Quote from: TauMuon on February 20, 2014, 10:43:01 AM

Quote from: sjarkara on February 20, 2014, 10:22:40 AM

Quote from: utopianfuture on February 20, 2014, 09:02:06 AM

I temporarily took 2Kool4Skewl from NEM stakeholder list as I understand that he does not want to be there. In the first 20 pages of the fundraising, many people do not entirely understand about the scope as well as purpose of NEM so it was easy just to post "interested" there by a mistake. Contrary to what used to be in the first page of the fundraising thread , NEM do offer refund after the announcement of detail development plan (probably in 2 weeks or so) so if someone does not feel they fit in with NEM community, they can leave voluntarily.

As written in ournem.com, at this stage NEM is first of all a community of which people share a certain ideas and goals and we going to build NEM/ Nemcoin as our decentralized payment platform together as we go along. I see no reason to keep people that are unhappy with NEM and this approach. There are no coins to share yet so it is not like we are taking anything from anyone. If 2Kool4Skewl wants to join back in, just say so before I make the unified stakeholder list and I will add him in.

The majority of NEM funding comes from Bitcoin and only about 30% of NEM stakeholders appear in NXT discussion before (see an excellent statistics by newcn) so I see NXT and NEM having quite a different demographics, also different technology and purposes. While I think there is a certain aspect of competition between the two blockchain, we can learn from each others as well. Some are developers of both NXT and NEM and they work across the aisle and I think that is a good thing. It will help advancing experiments and innovations in more directions. Compared to Bitcoin and other POW coins, NXT and NEM have more similarity and we can join force to emphasize our strength in a green economical network and highlight the problems with the computational arm-races used by Bitcoin and other POW coins. Let's focus on cooperation and innovation instead of envy and hatred as that are also NEM's core concepts and principles.

BTW, we appreciate active participants much more than passive ones/ investors. So contact me if you want to help in any way. Thanks.

Well said. I totally agree. As for your appreciation for active members, I am reading this Forum for many months now, butt never became a member because as a coffee shop owner I have no programming skills and no designer skills. Further I prefer to read what members with knowledge of crypto currency have to tell then to add my own nonsense. I'm into Btc and people can actually pay with Btc in my shop. I'll be the first to accept NEM, because I really like the principles of this new direction you guys are taking this.

That is spectacular! It's one thing having an innovate crypto, but having places to spend it and use it as an actual currency will solidify and strengthen it's position in the crypto world. It's just awesome people like you are already considering accepting NEM as payment barely a month after it's announcement. It's giving me high hopes for NEM's future. Kudos!

If you can proof that you paid for your petrol with NEM, your second cup of coffee is for free. (I live in South Africa haha). After all its an alternative economic system we are working on not a ponzi scheme.

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Nxt NEM

Quote from: patmast3r on February 20, 2014, 01:17:57 PM

Quote from: jkoil on February 20, 2014, 01:04:36 PM

Quote from: jkoil on February 18, 2014, 07:37:36 PM

Quote from: jkoil on February 18, 2014, 01:59:57 PM

Quote from: ashapasa on February 18, 2014, 01:38:05 PM

Quote from: zoata87 on February 18, 2014, 01:34:12 PM

so, i'm still at work, but i just registered the fanpage on fb. gfx, texts and so on is all temporary.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/NEM-Coin/217174381806901

hey it looks really good Cheesy

.

fb ... when looking NEM logo and phrases outside of cryptoworld, I started thinking, if that "No Envy" is good statement - or not.
It contains kind of double negative, which ofc produces a positive thing, but ... is two negative words good for NEM's outfit for mainstreams?
In here, in crypto forums, we all, or almost all, know what that "Envy" refers, but what about the outer world, which has much more people than these forums?

No Envy ==> New Egalitarian ?

one more sketch / idea for the logo :
/img]

...
NEM is New Economy Movement ; "new" means it is just to be created,
"movement" means that something is the goal of our work, the goal = another economy.
So the Economy is the key.

What can present this new Economy? Here it is just a simple E. A better one to be defined... (it depends on the goal of the NEM devs and ideologists. Eg. will the egalitarity have an important role also in the future activity and processes or just in the creation. I don't know

...

another idea for the logo form ( colors to be defined.... ) :
img]

There is a logo of a toilet paper company or some company that makes something with paper that looks just like this

ok

Could it be changed enough?

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Quote from: jkoil on February 20, 2014, 01:04:36 PM

Quote from: jkoil on February 18, 2014, 07:37:36 PM

Quote from: jkoil on February 18, 2014, 01:59:57 PM

Quote from: ashapasa on February 18, 2014, 01:38:05 PM

Quote from: zoata87 on February 18, 2014, 01:34:12 PM

so, i'm still at work, but i just registered the fanpage on fb. gfx, texts and so on is all temporary.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/NEM-Coin/217174381806901

hey it looks really good Cheesy

.

fb ... when looking NEM logo and phrases outside of cryptoworld, I started thinking, if that "No Envy" is good statement - or not.
It contains kind of double negative, which ofc produces a positive thing, but ... is two negative words good for NEM's outfit for mainstreams?
In here, in crypto forums, we all, or almost all, know what that "Envy" refers, but what about the outer world, which has much more people than these forums?

No Envy ==> New Egalitarian ?

one more sketch / idea for the logo :
/img]

...
NEM is New Economy Movement ; "new" means it is just to be created,
"movement" means that something is the goal of our work, the goal = another economy.
So the Economy is the key.

What can present this new Economy? Here it is just a simple E. A better one to be defined... (it depends on the goal of the NEM devs and ideologists. Eg. will the egalitarity have an important role also in the future activity and processes or just in the creation. I don't know

...

another idea for the logo form ( colors to be defined.... ) :

There is a logo of a toilet paper company or some company that makes something with paper that looks just like this

jkoil

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Nxt NEM

Quote from: jkoil on February 18, 2014, 07:37:36 PM

Quote from: jkoil on February 18, 2014, 01:59:57 PM

Quote from: ashapasa on February 18, 2014, 01:38:05 PM

Quote from: zoata87 on February 18, 2014, 01:34:12 PM

so, i'm still at work, but i just registered the fanpage on fb. gfx, texts and so on is all temporary.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/NEM-Coin/217174381806901

hey it looks really good Cheesy

.

fb ... when looking NEM logo and phrases outside of cryptoworld, I started thinking, if that "No Envy" is good statement - or not.
It contains kind of double negative, which ofc produces a positive thing, but ... is two negative words good for NEM's outfit for mainstreams?
In here, in crypto forums, we all, or almost all, know what that "Envy" refers, but what about the outer world, which has much more people than these forums?

No Envy ==> New Egalitarian ?

one more sketch / idea for the logo :
/img]

...
NEM is New Economy Movement ; "new" means it is just to be created,
"movement" means that something is the goal of our work, the goal = another economy.
So the Economy is the key.

What can present this new Economy? Here it is just a simple E. A better one to be defined... (it depends on the goal of the NEM devs and ideologists. Eg. will the egalitarity have an important role also in the future activity and processes or just in the creation. I don't know

...

another idea for the logo form ( colors to be defined.... ) :

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Quote from: geyu on February 20, 2014, 12:28:19 PM

Sorry my bad english（Google Chinese Translation） Embarrassed

I don't see my name on the stakeholders lis
please add Thank you

I'm not even gonna look at the list. I bet you are there. Have you seen the tabs on the bottom of that google doc ?

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Oh, wow

I have been running into this guy all day!! He is relentless!! He is so freaked out by us it is insane!!
I had no idea he was a stakeholder. This guy just blew me away again!! I leave it at that. You guys seem to have it handled.

OMG LOL Grin

Anyway, I have been telling people to go the the website, does anyone know how long it will be offline?

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Sorry my bad english（Google Chinese Translation） Embarrassed

I don't see my name on the stakeholders lis
please add Thank you

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Quote from: contraband on February 20, 2014, 12:07:02 PM

Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on February 20, 2014, 10:50:46 AM

I can't believe that by simply asking how Nem differs from Nxt it caused this reaction. I'm not trolling.

If you are not trolling, then how do you explain this post? Made earlier today?

Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on February 20, 2014, 03:55:00 AM

Quote from: Fatih87SK on February 20, 2014, 03:20:04 AM

Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on February 20, 2014, 02:08:53 AM

Wow.... so original. This doesn't look at all like Nxt's logo. lol

Seriously, save yourselves some time and just copy everything from Nxt.

Everything? Shocked

Quote from: nxt_rainbow on February 20, 2014, 03:33:03 AM

I'm a software engineer, what can I do for Nem! Grin

Step 1 - Ctrl+C
Step 2 - Ctrl+V

You act like you don't know what is going on. But clearly you understand exactly what is going on. You have read up on NEM. Stated here

Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on February 20, 2014, 10:50:46 AM

I think POI is a flawed concept. I'm not sure what is meant by "different types of node", maybe someone can enlighten me.

So this would lead us to believe that you know that control C and Control V would not work. But you said it anyway. You keep saying it's a fork and clone, but you clearly know that statement is a lie.

Below, I think we start to see what is really causing you to troll the way you have been here on this thread and others.

Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on February 20, 2014, 10:50:46 AM

My main concern is that Nem and Nxt have the exact same stated goal: "The creation of a new economic movement." I full-heartedly support this objective. I do not believe a division of resources best serves this purpose.

So ok, you disagree with Nxt and NEM co-existing. That is fine. No one is giving you the chance to leave or community because of this. It is because of this:

Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on February 20, 2014, 04:14:04 AM

Nem is a pointless clone currency. It offers no features that Nxt does not already possess. A significant amount of funds have been taken from individuals and they are going to get nothing for it. That is unethical.

This and other post you have made about NEM are not true. Plus, as a matter of fact, I could keep on posting your own comments that contradict each other. This proves you are trolling. You are trying to hurt NEM because you disagree that they should co-exist. As you stated. Matter of fact, you have us to think we should all go to Nxt forum and pool our resources and only work on Nxt. This is your opinion to have as your own. But it is unacceptable to make statement meant to fool people cause of your belief.
You have not been kicked out. You have been given the option to leave. If you worried about resources going away form Nxt, why do you waste your time here, as you are smart. Help us out. Or get out. Don’t make up a confusing story here and elsewhere.
Ok?

Thumbs up for this post!

@ troll (2Kool4Skewl) Please leave our community and spend your stake to a charity-organization!

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Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on February 20, 2014, 10:50:46 AM

I can't believe that by simply asking how Nem differs from Nxt it caused this reaction. I'm not trolling.

If you are not trolling, then how do you explain this post? Made earlier today?

Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on February 20, 2014, 03:55:00 AM

Quote from: Fatih87SK on February 20, 2014, 03:20:04 AM

Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on February 20, 2014, 02:08:53 AM

Wow.... so original. This doesn't look at all like Nxt's logo. lol

Seriously, save yourselves some time and just copy everything from Nxt.

Everything? Shocked

Quote from: nxt_rainbow on February 20, 2014, 03:33:03 AM

I'm a software engineer, what can I do for Nem! Grin

Step 1 - Ctrl+C
Step 2 - Ctrl+V

You act like you don't know what is going on. But clearly you understand exactly what is going on. You have read up on NEM. Stated here

Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on February 20, 2014, 10:50:46 AM

I think POI is a flawed concept. I'm not sure what is meant by "different types of node", maybe someone can enlighten me.

So this would lead us to believe that you know that control C and Control V would not work. But you said it anyway. You keep saying it's a fork and clone, but you clearly know that statement is a lie.

Below, I think we start to see what is really causing you to troll the way you have been here on this thread and others.

Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on February 20, 2014, 10:50:46 AM

My main concern is that Nem and Nxt have the exact same stated goal: "The creation of a new economic movement." I full-heartedly support this objective. I do not believe a division of resources best serves this purpose.

So ok, you disagree with Nxt and NEM co-existing. That is fine. No one is giving you the chance to leave or community because of this. It is because of this:

Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on February 20, 2014, 04:14:04 AM

Nem is a pointless clone currency. It offers no features that Nxt does not already possess. A significant amount of funds have been taken from individuals and they are going to get nothing for it. That is unethical.

This and other post you have made about NEM are not true. Plus, as a matter of fact, I could keep on posting your own comments that contradict each other. This proves you are trolling. You are trying to hurt NEM because you disagree that they should co-exist. As you stated. Matter of fact, you have us to think we should all go to Nxt forum and pool our resources and only work on Nxt. This is your opinion to have as your own. But it is unacceptable to make statement meant to fool people cause of your belief.
You have not been kicked out. You have been given the option to leave. If you worried about resources going away form Nxt, why do you waste your time here, as you are smart. Help us out. Or get out. Don’t make up a confusing story here and elsewhere.
Ok?

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DRAMA: Dumb Retards Asking More Attention

Quote from: Istanbul34 on February 20, 2014, 11:44:23 AM

Quote from: Istanbul34 on February 20, 2014, 11:19:44 AM

2Kool4Skewl

Are you interested to be part of NEM or not?

If no; Good luck with NXT.

If yes; UP will add you to the list and we create some innovative stuff together. Remember that NEM is still being built. So anything is possible.

Let us know your answer.

Answer please.

Relax , he still has a couple of days left...

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TEZOS

Quote from: Sharker on February 20, 2014, 08:12:28 AM

Hello all!
I suggest using this logo for NEM. This is not a coin, it is necessary to deviate from a circular shape.

The best logo for NEM !

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Quote from: Istanbul34 on February 20, 2014, 11:19:44 AM

2Kool4Skewl

Are you interested to be part of NEM or not?

If no; Good luck with NXT.

If yes; UP will add you to the list and we create some innovative stuff together. Remember that NEM is still being built. So anything is possible.

Let us know your answer.

Answer please.

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