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Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 374. (Read 661525 times)

newbie
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Hello all!
I suggest using this logo for NEM. This is not a coin, it is necessary to deviate from a circular shape.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ViEyNAdjQXc/UwX-9x0pCEI/AAAAAAAABW8/b_ya6okDsmY/w500-h709-no/nem.jpg

VERY nice! I really, really like this simple design.

It's pretty technical/neutral though and not really positive/green/"utopian", if you know what im saying.

 Cheesy I think its a pretty cool logo (thumbs up)
member
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Let's focus on cooperation and innovation instead of envy and hatred as that are also  NEM's core concepts and principles.
This is the part that stands out the most for me.

Well done UP!  Cool
newbie
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With the large community of NEM it should not be difficult to convince some exchanges to adopt NEM  Smiley
I may be wrong however... I have no idea why NXT is not on cryptsy. Does anybody know why?   Huh

 I think I do not need to wait for favors from strangers, and do your first exchange with the free exchange IT to other crypto. 4000 we will have more people and ... At first everyone will have to sacrifice some of their capital in NEM and give it away for free to many people ...

I think I'll support the developers with my stake. Holding only a minor part of it for myself. As a fact I'm not a developer,
so my vision is to support the whole ecosystem, NEM; NXT and others, so it can become stronger and stronger.
There will be opportunities which I can support as a non technical guy.
sr. member
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This is Silver, Mr Bond. All my life, I have been in love with its color, its brilliance, its divine heaviness.
sr. member
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Hello all!
I suggest using this logo for NEM. This is not a coin, it is necessary to deviate from a circular shape.


VERY nice! I really, really like this simple design.

It's pretty technical/neutral though and not really positive/green/"utopian", if you know what im saying.
sr. member
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I can't believe that by simply asking how Nem differs from Nxt it caused this reaction.  I'm not trolling.  I still don't understand how Nem is different from Nxt.  I heard that Nem is different because you're translating the code.  I don't think that's innovative.  I think POI is a flawed concept.  I'm not sure what is meant by "different types of node", maybe someone can enlighten me.

The only thing you did by removing me as a stakeholder was to consolidate the currency further.  The good thing about Nxt's initial distribution is that at that time hardly anyone was interested and therefore I believe the stakes belong to different people.  After the clones started and distribution was meted out simply by an "interested" comment, you had a lot of bitcointalk accounts posting "interested" that are controlled by the same individual.  This isn't my biggest concern with Nem, but I don't think it is good.

My main concern is that Nem and Nxt have the exact same stated goal: "The creation of a new economic movement."  I full-heartedly support this objective.  I do not believe a division of resources best serves this purpose.

I also don't like to see people giving away their Nxt for nothing, which at this time, is what they have done.  They have given it away for the promise of something in the future.  When I posted "interested", I didn't know that Nem was going to start collecting Nxt and Btc.  I think this collection is unethical, because I can't see anything worthy of a dev fund.

I try to be honest and fair in all my dealings.  My intent is to strengthen "the new economic movement" not destroy it.  I know the true economic movement was started with NXT by BCNext and I will support it to the end.  Remember, I am the one that stated, "Do not mistake us as just another cryptocurrency.  We are a movement."

You are trolling, because you don't answer the important questions, which people asked you (which I won't repeat for you). Do that and I take this back.
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One of the major reasons why Bitcoin is so big is because in order to buy any other coins you must first buy Bitcoins. If we could somehow get lucky enough for a service that would allow us to bypass Bitcoins, and if we can somehow get some mainstream support, Nem could be just as big as Bitcoin. That's an extremely positive hope though.

If we were so lucky, I think calling it Nem Coin would have a much larger effect in getting across to people who never heard of cryptocoins. If the average person just read Nem, most likely they will move on and not give it much thought, but when you add the coin then people who are hearing it for the first time will have a better idea of what it's about. So when I mention the coin outside of these threads I always say Nem coin.

There's also Google. When you Google Nem, you'll find search results for other entities, but when you Google Nem coin, you find Nem coin. Even if Nem becomes big, in the future they will still have to compete with these other entities.

It might also be good to start differentiating new "coins" from bitcoin. That bitcoin uses coin, does not require all additional cryptocurrencies to use coin as well.

My concern is for people to instantly have an idea of what Nem is when the come across it by chance. For example in a comment section on YouTube or on a major mainstream website. We don't have to be completely different just for the sake of being different, especially when in reality they are both cryptocoins.
sr. member
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I think we should brainstorm about how to get a FIAT <-> NEM service going.
Any ideas ?

PayPal shuts you down before you can say "new econom... aaaan your shut down.

If you wan't to work with wire transfer you have to go through tons of legal issues.

Physically sending the money takes way to long.


I'm not sure how many countries have internet banking that offers fast money transfer? In the UK and it would appear Holland a company called Bittylicious acts as a broker and escrows the crypto-currency for fiat. If I want to buy Bitcoin for fiat I enter an amount of Bitcoin and get a fiat price in pounds. If I'm happy then Bittylicious present the seller bank details, I use these details on my internet banking person to person fast payment system. The fast payment system normally completes in a few minutes but can take upto a maximum of 2 hours. Bittylicious (somehow) monitors the payment and registers when it is complete, they then transfer the Bitcoins and again wait for at least 1 confirmation.

Maybe this could be an option to attract new people into NEM straight from fiat?

https://bittylicious.com/

KC
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I agree with most of the comments. For most of the BTC clones; the dependency on BTC is endemic. For NXT; I noticed that it is still problematic because, while the value of the coin respecting BTC increases; the value respecting any fiat currency (which at the end, are the currencies that can allow you to buy stuff and transfer value to the cryptocurrencies) is going down or it is keep in best cases. This is not good since it makes cryptocurrencies only useful as a high risk invesment instrument more proper for speculation. This is at the opposite of the NEM concept. IMO, the questions to solve are:
1. How to get independency from BTC
2. How to transfer value from the real world to NEM in a direct way (so then merchant can use directly)
3. How to establish an easy fiat-NEM exchange that goes in line with point 2

I think it is important to think how to solve these issues before launching or, at least to have some ideas how to do it. I am confident that the dev team can work in a solution but, as a community I think we need to discuss these issues
legendary
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One of the major reasons why Bitcoin is so big is because in order to buy any other coins you must first buy Bitcoins. If we could somehow get lucky enough for a service that would allow us to bypass Bitcoins, and if we can somehow get some mainstream support, Nem could be just as big as Bitcoin. That's an extremely positive hope though.

If we were so lucky, I think calling it Nem Coin would have a much larger effect in getting across to people who never heard of cryptocoins. If the average person just read Nem, most likely they will move on and not give it much thought, but when you add the coin then people who are hearing it for the first time will have a better idea of what it's about. So when I mention the coin outside of these threads I always say Nem coin.

There's also Google. When you Google Nem, you'll find search results for other entities, but when you Google Nem coin, you find Nem coin. Even if Nem becomes big, in the future they will still have to compete with these other entities.

It might also be good to start differentiating new "coins" from bitcoin. That bitcoin uses coin, does not require all additional cryptocurrencies to use coin as well.
full member
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One of the major reasons why Bitcoin is so big is because in order to buy any other coins you must first buy Bitcoins. If we could somehow get lucky enough for a service that would allow us to bypass Bitcoins, and if we can somehow get some mainstream support, Nem could be just as big as Bitcoin. That's an extremely positive hope though.

If we were so lucky, I think calling it Nem Coin would have a much larger effect in getting across to people who never heard of cryptocoins. If the average person just read Nem, most likely they will move on and not give it much thought, but when you add the coin then people who are hearing it for the first time will have a better idea of what it's about. So when I mention the coin outside of these threads I always say Nem coin.

There's also Google. When you Google Nem, you'll find search results for other entities, but when you Google Nem coin, you find Nem coin. Even if Nem becomes big, in the future they will still have to compete with these other entities.
full member
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Apparently there is an alternative like bitpay for altcoins:

https://www.coinpayments.net

They appear to accept quite alot of altcoins , however no NXT (technical issues Huh )

If these technical issues is a constraint to get a currency accepted to an exchange or other thing like this coinpayments, is this something that can be taken into account during development? Or is this just something that the exchanges have to deal with?


Well I'd assume that the NXT API is different for a reason so it's probably something that the exchanges are going to have to deal with.

Or it could be that NXT is a 2nd generation coin and that website is designed for Bitcoin and its clones and future clones, all based on the same code. If that's the case, then it's up to the website to make it work because all 2nd generation coins are obviously going to be different.
hero member
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Apparently there is an alternative like bitpay for altcoins:

https://www.coinpayments.net

They appear to accept quite alot of altcoins , however no NXT (technical issues Huh )

If these technical issues is a constraint to get a currency accepted to an exchange or other thing like this coinpayments, is this something that can be taken into account during development? Or is this just something that the exchanges have to deal with?


Well I'd assume that the NXT API is different for a reason so it's probably something that the exchanges are going to have to deal with.
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When I registered for NEM, I honestly didn't expect much. I wouldn't have been surprised if the developers just had copied the NXT code and multiplied the 1b to 4 b.

As I have been observing this thread for a while now, I have come to realize that this has probably been one of the best investments I have ever made. People are serious about this, especially the developers, and I love it.

I will continue to observe, and will share my 2 cents whenever I have some ideas.

Thank you.
sr. member
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DRAMA: Dumb Retards Asking More Attention
Apparently there is an alternative like bitpay for altcoins:

https://www.coinpayments.net

They appear to accept quite alot of altcoins , however no NXT (technical issues Huh )

If these technical issues is a constraint to get a currency accepted to an exchange or other thing like this coinpayments, is this something that can be taken into account during development? Or is this just something that the exchanges have to deal with?




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NEM Enthusiast
I wonder if we can get some exchange to treat NEM just like bitcoin....

With the large community of NEM it should not be difficult to convince some exchanges to adopt NEM  Smiley
I may be wrong however... I have no idea why NXT is not on cryptsy. Does anybody know why?   Huh



Cryptsy have said they'll add NXT trading at some point, it's just a matter of time. Remember NXT is completely different to other altcoins, so implementing it into an exchange isn't as simple as you'd think.
full member
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With the large community of NEM it should not be difficult to convince some exchanges to adopt NEM  Smiley
I may be wrong however... I have no idea why NXT is not on cryptsy. Does anybody know why?   Huh

 I think I do not need to wait for favors from strangers, and do your first exchange with the free exchange IT to other crypto. 4000 we will have more people and ... At first everyone will have to sacrifice some of their capital in NEM and give it away for free to many people ...
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
DRAMA: Dumb Retards Asking More Attention
I wonder if we can get some exchange to treat NEM just like bitcoin....

With the large community of NEM it should not be difficult to convince some exchanges to adopt NEM  Smiley
I may be wrong however... I have no idea why NXT is not on cryptsy. Does anybody know why?   Huh

full member
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Merit: 100
I think we should brainstorm about how to get a FIAT <-> NEM service going.
Any ideas ?

PayPal shuts you down before you can say "new econom... aaaan your shut down.

If you wan't to work with wire transfer you have to go through tons of legal issues.

Physically sending the money takes way to long.


 I can not say about other countries, but Russia is good used system: https://perfectmoney.is  I can in 10 minutes to get her money in cash. I believe that you must use it in conjunction with other.
sr. member
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DRAMA: Dumb Retards Asking More Attention
I think we should brainstorm about how to get a FIAT <-> NEM service going.
Any ideas ?

PayPal shuts you down before you can say "new econom... aaaan your shut down.

If you wan't to work with wire transfer you have to go through tons of legal issues.

Physically sending the money takes way to long.


It took me a while to write this post so sorry if I am repeating someone...

I don't think a FIAT <-> NEM gateway is the most important thing. Once there is an exchange it's easy to use a FIAT <-> BTC gateway to buy BTC and then convert them to NEM.

On the other hand, it is my opinion that we should try to establish something like bitpay to attract merchants.
Once the currency is widely adopted by merchants someone will certainly set up a FIAT gateway IMO. But then again how can you attract merchants  Huh Huh

How complicated would it be to set up an api for magento opencart etc. and enable a weekly/monthly payout in FIAT for merchants?
Are there any alternatives like bitpay for altcoins?
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