[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 373.

gabbo876

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Quote from: play4ce on February 17, 2014, 04:05:06 PM

Hello Nemunity,

here is the logo in white, for the new website: ournem.com

http://imageshack.com/a/img196/7079/p9a4.png http://imageshack.com/a/img35/1204/76nj.png http://imageshack.com/a/img62/4815/39xz.png

http://imageshack.com/a/img853/1699/b7xx.png

http://imageshack.com/a/img594/7371/wj39.png

http://imageshack.com/a/img89/3194/57va.png

BTT is full of Banners!
keep up the good work Grin

The most elegant logo so far...

+1

makoto1337

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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.

Quote from: sjarkara on February 20, 2014, 10:22:40 AM

Quote from: utopianfuture on February 20, 2014, 09:02:06 AM

I temporarily took 2Kool4Skewl from NEM stakeholder list as I understand that he does not want to be there. In the first 20 pages of the fundraising, many people do not entirely understand about the scope as well as purpose of NEM so it was easy just to post "interested" there by a mistake. Contrary to what used to be in the first page of the fundraising thread , NEM do offer refund after the announcement of detail development plan (probably in 2 weeks or so) so if someone does not feel they fit in with NEM community, they can leave voluntarily.

As written in ournem.com, at this stage NEM is first of all a community of which people share a certain ideas and goals and we going to build NEM/ Nemcoin as our decentralized payment platform together as we go along. I see no reason to keep people that are unhappy with NEM and this approach. There are no coins to share yet so it is not like we are taking anything from anyone. If 2Kool4Skewl wants to join back in, just say so before I make the unified stakeholder list and I will add him in.

The majority of NEM funding comes from Bitcoin and only about 30% of NEM stakeholders appear in NXT discussion before (see an excellent statistics by newcn) so I see NXT and NEM having quite a different demographics, also different technology and purposes. While I think there is a certain aspect of competition between the two blockchain, we can learn from each others as well. Some are developers of both NXT and NEM and they work across the aisle and I think that is a good thing. It will help advancing experiments and innovations in more directions. Compared to Bitcoin and other POW coins, NXT and NEM have more similarity and we can join force to emphasize our strength in a green economical network and highlight the problems with the computational arm-races used by Bitcoin and other POW coins. Let's focus on cooperation and innovation instead of envy and hatred as that are also NEM's core concepts and principles.

BTW, we appreciate active participants much more than passive ones/ investors. So contact me if you want to help in any way. Thanks.

Well said. I totally agree. As for your appreciation for active members, I am reading this Forum for many months now, butt never became a member because as a coffee shop owner I have no programming skills and no designer skills. Further I prefer to read what members with knowledge of crypto currency have to tell then to add my own nonsense. I'm into Btc and people can actually pay with Btc in my shop. I'll be the first to accept NEM, because I really like the principles of this new direction you guys are taking this.

Awesome. You might also consider selling things on the NEM asset market as well. Using the NEM encrypted messaging, you can receive a physical address from a buyer and send an encrypted invoice.

utopianfuture

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Quote from: TauMuon on February 20, 2014, 08:57:32 PM

@Utopian

Can we expect any updates soon? Not pushing at all, just wondering.

Bookmark the front page of this thread, I will put links to all important updates in the update section. Read the plan ahead post, there will be an important update after the public auditing is over.

TauMuon

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@Utopian

Can we expect any updates soon? Not pushing at all, just wondering.

Jaguar0625

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Quote from: erkki12 on February 20, 2014, 06:35:25 PM

Quote from: conbos on February 20, 2014, 04:29:25 PM

1. How to get independency from BTC
2. How to transfer value from the real world to NEM in a direct way (so then merchant can use directly)
3. How to establish an easy fiat-NEM exchange that goes in line with point 2

1. Independency from BTC will be only achieved when you can exchange fiat directly into NEM without BTC in the middle. We should as a community now think about funding a site that offers that possibility. Or maybe contacting Graviton about when is he about to implement fiat in dgex...

2. Most merchants will accept NEM only if we get enough buzz around it. As dogecoin can be used to buy real life stuff, can NEM sure as hell be used to buy stuff! It just depends on how aggressive is our marketing plan. Oh an by the way there should be a marketing plan comprised for NEM, so anyone up for the task go ahead!

3. I don't think there is a easy way. The easiest could be to get NEM into an already existing exchange. Trying to come up with an exchange with ourselves is something that I fear will be a horrible task. But if anyone feels up for the task he should go ahead by all means! Otherwise Graviton, I believe, is trying to get dgex into accepting fiat.. Maybe he could do it or then we should contact some other exchanges. But realistically we wont have a chance into getting into any exchange without donations, because NEM will be a new and volatile coin with no guarantees.

In order to disconnect NEM from BTC, we will need a fiat -> NEM exchange. In the US coinbase is the only way to convert fiat to BTC. They've gotten lots of venture funding (so it's probably legal). If anyone can figure out the legality of it, I will be willing to help build an exchange.

Jaguar0625

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Quote from: nxt_rainbow on February 20, 2014, 03:33:03 AM

I'm a software engineer, what can I do for Nem! Grin

If you PM me your email, I can add you to our development trello board.

Jaguar0625

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Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on February 20, 2014, 03:55:00 AM

Quote from: Fatih87SK on February 20, 2014, 03:20:04 AM

Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on February 20, 2014, 02:08:53 AM

Wow.... so original. This doesn't look at all like Nxt's logo. lol

Seriously, save yourselves some time and just copy everything from Nxt.

Everything? Shocked

Quote from: nxt_rainbow on February 20, 2014, 03:33:03 AM

I'm a software engineer, what can I do for Nem! Grin

Step 1 - Ctrl+C
Step 2 - Ctrl+V

Hmmm ... that's surprising NXT wants to copy NEM already Wink

.

Jaguar0625

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Quote from: lexusivan888 on February 20, 2014, 11:35:08 AM

what the fuck ! i saw another coin, MEE TOO, they said they will exactly clone NEM.....

That's OK. They will not have the NEM community and network effects are what gives a coin value.

nxt_rainbow

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randombit

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I dont like all these corners in the logo,

we should find and create something without corner, cause corner looks to aggresiv ( even in chinese feng shui they feel corner acting to restless).
If we use more roundings in the logo it fells much friendlier and positve, the right mix with white/silver/gold and a creative abstract symbol could be the desired target.

makoto1337

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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.

Quote from: utopianfuture on February 20, 2014, 09:02:06 AM

I temporarily took 2Kool4Skewl from NEM stakeholder list as I understand that he does not want to be there. In the first 20 pages of the fundraising, many people do not entirely understand about the scope as well as purpose of NEM so it was easy just to post "interested" there by a mistake. Contrary to what used to be in the first page of the fundraising thread , NEM do offer refund after the announcement of detail development plan (probably in 2 weeks or so) so if someone does not feel they fit in with NEM community, they can leave voluntarily.

As written in ournem.com, at this stage NEM is first of all a community of which people share a certain ideas and goals and we going to build NEM/ Nemcoin as our decentralized payment platform together as we go along. I see no reason to keep people that are unhappy with NEM and this approach. There are no coins to share yet so it is not like we are taking anything from anyone. If 2Kool4Skewl wants to join back in, just say so before I make the unified stakeholder list and I will add him in.

The majority of NEM funding comes from Bitcoin and only about 30% of NEM stakeholders appear in NXT discussion before (see an excellent statistics by newcn) so I see NXT and NEM having quite a different demographics, also different technology and purposes. While I think there is a certain aspect of competition between the two blockchain, we can learn from each others as well. Some are developers of both NXT and NEM and they work across the aisle and I think that is a good thing. It will help advancing experiments and innovations in more directions. Compared to Bitcoin and other POW coins, NXT and NEM have more similarity and we can join force to emphasize our strength in a green economical network and highlight the problems with the computational arm-races used by Bitcoin and other POW coins. Let's focus on cooperation and innovation instead of envy and hatred as that are also NEM's core concepts and principles.

BTW, we appreciate active participants much more than passive ones/ investors. So contact me if you want to help in any way. Thanks.

Well said.
Especially in Japan, crypto-currencies have been marred by previous scandals and almost no one trusts them. Creating a "clean" currency will appeal to more people and make the world a better place.

leonardos

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Quote from: contraband on February 20, 2014, 06:36:35 PM

Quote from: conbos on February 20, 2014, 04:29:25 PM

I agree with most of the comments. For most of the BTC clones; the dependency on BTC is endemic. For NXT; I noticed that it is still problematic because, while the value of the coin respecting BTC increases; the value respecting any fiat currency (which at the end, are the currencies that can allow you to buy stuff and transfer value to the cryptocurrencies) is going down or it is keep in best cases. This is not good since it makes cryptocurrencies only useful as a high risk invesment instrument more proper for speculation. This is at the opposite of the NEM concept. IMO, the questions to solve are:
1. How to get independency from BTC
2. How to transfer value from the real world to NEM in a direct way (so then merchant can use directly)
3. How to establish an easy fiat-NEM exchange that goes in line with point 2

I think it is important to think how to solve these issues before launching or, at least to have some ideas how to do it. I am confident that the dev team can work in a solution but, as a community I think we need to discuss these issues

I agree 100% with this.
It should be our focus right now when we have the time

Nem into fiat?
One possible way is to follow the localbitcoins.com example. The local (insert coin here) .com is already a well known name. So if anyone with the tech know-how is able to make such a site, that could be a small step in the right direction. Possibly.

leonardos

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simplicity is better, if you have to try to work out what it actually says, or the meaning, then I think we are going in the wrong direction. Simple but unique is the answer.

Rich1970

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Cool, but the "E" looks like half of a swastika.

Jenska

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Just tried modify sharpers amazing logo, made a few pieces

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3809/12665402884_59464b73d4_n_d.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5488/12665403894_9638c8e2a8_n_d.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2861/12664948255_ff36f788dc_n_d.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3747/12665063523_16d797d0bc_n_d.jpg

More: http://www.flickr.com/photos/117326947@N06/

Robert Lewandowski

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Bayern

Nice logo bardzo ladny

contraband

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Quote from: conbos on February 20, 2014, 04:29:25 PM

I agree with most of the comments. For most of the BTC clones; the dependency on BTC is endemic. For NXT; I noticed that it is still problematic because, while the value of the coin respecting BTC increases; the value respecting any fiat currency (which at the end, are the currencies that can allow you to buy stuff and transfer value to the cryptocurrencies) is going down or it is keep in best cases. This is not good since it makes cryptocurrencies only useful as a high risk invesment instrument more proper for speculation. This is at the opposite of the NEM concept. IMO, the questions to solve are:
1. How to get independency from BTC
2. How to transfer value from the real world to NEM in a direct way (so then merchant can use directly)
3. How to establish an easy fiat-NEM exchange that goes in line with point 2

I think it is important to think how to solve these issues before launching or, at least to have some ideas how to do it. I am confident that the dev team can work in a solution but, as a community I think we need to discuss these issues

I agree 100% with this.
It should be our focus right now when we have the time

erkki12

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Quote from: conbos on February 20, 2014, 04:29:25 PM

1. How to get independency from BTC
2. How to transfer value from the real world to NEM in a direct way (so then merchant can use directly)
3. How to establish an easy fiat-NEM exchange that goes in line with point 2

1. Independency from BTC will be only achieved when you can exchange fiat directly into NEM without BTC in the middle. We should as a community now think about funding a site that offers that possibility. Or maybe contacting Graviton about when is he about to implement fiat in dgex...

2. Most merchants will accept NEM only if we get enough buzz around it. As dogecoin can be used to buy real life stuff, can NEM sure as hell be used to buy stuff! It just depends on how aggressive is our marketing plan. Oh an by the way there should be a marketing plan comprised for NEM, so anyone up for the task go ahead!

3. I don't think there is a easy way. The easiest could be to get NEM into an already existing exchange. Trying to come up with an exchange with ourselves is something that I fear will be a horrible task. But if anyone feels up for the task he should go ahead by all means! Otherwise Graviton, I believe, is trying to get dgex into accepting fiat.. Maybe he could do it or then we should contact some other exchanges. But realistically we wont have a chance into getting into any exchange without donations, because NEM will be a new and volatile coin with no guarantees.

rougetrooper

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Quote from: slither on February 20, 2014, 05:58:44 PM

Quote from: mixmaster on February 20, 2014, 04:55:42 PM

Quote from: Sharker on February 20, 2014, 08:12:28 AM

Hello all!
I suggest using this logo for NEM. This is not a coin, it is necessary to deviate from a circular shape.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ViEyNAdjQXc/UwX-9x0pCEI/AAAAAAAABW8/b_ya6okDsmY/w500-h709-no/nem.jpg

VERY nice! I really, really like this simple design.

It's pretty technical/neutral though and not really positive/green/"utopian", if you know what im saying.

I think its a pretty cool logo (thumbs up)

I'm liking this one a lot, looks clean and futuristic Grin

Thingamajig

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Quote from: conbos on February 20, 2014, 04:29:25 PM

I agree with most of the comments. For most of the BTC clones; the dependency on BTC is endemic. For NXT; I noticed that it is still problematic because, while the value of the coin respecting BTC increases; the value respecting any fiat currency (which at the end, are the currencies that can allow you to buy stuff and transfer value to the cryptocurrencies) is going down or it is keep in best cases. This is not good since it makes cryptocurrencies only useful as a high risk invesment instrument more proper for speculation. This is at the opposite of the NEM concept. IMO, the questions to solve are:
1. How to get independency from BTC
2. How to transfer value from the real world to NEM in a direct way (so then merchant can use directly)
3. How to establish an easy fiat-NEM exchange that goes in line with point 2

I think it is important to think how to solve these issues before launching or, at least to have some ideas how to do it. I am confident that the dev team can work in a solution but, as a community I think we need to discuss these issues

So. So much of this.

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