Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 5. (Read 661498 times)

Quote from: TaunSew on June 12, 2014, 04:40:08 PM

I love that there were ~70 stakeholders for NXT and NXTers are saying NEM is compromised because of 1 sock puppet among 3,000 stakeholders. It goes to show how hungry the competition was for some negative NEM publicity.

1 sock puppet that was CAUGHT. He could literally have hundreds more. If he doesn't, prove it.

The man is a liar. He was caught in a bald-faced lie. Pretending to talk to yourself for the sake of creating fake conversation IS LYING. Its dishonest and it goes against the core themes of this project.

It doesn't matter what you or he has to say about the matter from here on out, he has no credibility any more. Its morally reprehensible that you guys would rush to his side so quickly.

No NXT developer has been caught using such underhanded tactics, ever.

I think the nxt guys can answer that Grin

OK fine I made that up admittedly. Please feel free to prove me wrong.

nutildah

legendary

Activity: 3010

Merit: 8114

Quote from: nutildah on June 12, 2014, 04:39:12 PM

I love that there were ~70 stakeholders for NXT and NXTers are saying NEM is compromised because of 1 sock puppet among 3,000 stakeholders. It goes to show how hungry the competition was for some negative NEM publicity.

I only see him with two accounts, which is legal if the second stake is meant for someone else.

People keep claiming he has multiple sock puppet accounts but that doesn't seem to be the case until someone can prove it.

The cautious and appropriate point of view would be the opposite from your own. You need to prove to us he doesn't have more sock puppet accounts. Its not the other way around.

mr smith

full member

Activity: 182

Merit: 100

I love that there were ~70 stakeholders for NXT and NXTers are saying NEM is compromised because of 1 sock puppet among 3,000 stakeholders. It goes to show how hungry the competition was for some negative NEM publicity.

1 sock puppet that was CAUGHT. He could literally have hundreds more. If he doesn't, prove it.

The man is a liar. He was caught in a bald-faced lie. Pretending to talk to yourself for the sake of creating fake conversation IS LYING. Its dishonest and it goes against the core themes of this project.

It doesn't matter what you or he has to say about the matter from here on out, he has no credibility any more. Its morally reprehensible that you guys would rush to his side so quickly.

No NXT developer has been caught using such underhanded tactics, ever.

I think the nxt guys can answer that Grin

TaunSew

hero member

Activity: 756

Merit: 506

I love that there were ~70 stakeholders for NXT and NXTers are saying NEM is compromised because of 1 sock puppet among 3,000 stakeholders. It goes to show how hungry the competition was for some negative NEM publicity.

I only see him with two accounts, which is legal if the second stake is meant for someone else.

People keep claiming he has multiple sock puppet accounts but that doesn't seem to be the case until someone can prove it.

nutildah

legendary

Activity: 3010

Merit: 8114

I love that there were ~70 stakeholders for NXT and NXTers are saying NEM is compromised because of 1 sock puppet among 3,000 stakeholders. It goes to show how hungry the competition was for some negative NEM publicity.

1 sock puppet that was CAUGHT. He could literally have hundreds more. If he doesn't, prove it.

The man is a liar. He was caught in a bald-faced lie. Pretending to talk to yourself for the sake of creating fake conversation IS LYING. Its dishonest and it goes against the core themes of this project.

It doesn't matter what you or he has to say about the matter from here on out, he has no credibility any more. Its morally reprehensible that you guys would rush to his side so quickly.

No NXT developer has been caught using such underhanded tactics, ever.

xtester

hero member

Activity: 840

Merit: 500

Risk taker & Black Swan farmer.

Quote from: mikesbmw on June 12, 2014, 04:28:13 PM

Other then Ghosthouse, what other sockpuppets does UF have? Can anyone name a third? If not then don't claim so.

Having a second account is legal given the context. What's scandalous is this sim coin thing but honestly I don't know anything about that coin / don't care.

Why are you so keen on defending the actions of UF?
Serious question.

Simcoin has nothing to do with this. There is no problem between simcoin and NEM. The problems were personal and they should remain so.

It is very understandable why people would still defend UP. While he has made a great mistake, we should not forget that we would not be here without him. He has put a great deal of work for this and people judging him should keep in mind too.

Am very curios to read his statement.

Coinsy

full member

Activity: 163

Merit: 100

I love that there were ~70 stakeholders for NXT and NXTers are saying NEM is compromised because of 1 sock puppet among 3,000 stakeholders. It goes to show how hungry the competition was for some negative NEM publicity.

TaunSew

hero member

Activity: 756

Merit: 506

Quote from: TaunSew on June 12, 2014, 04:23:58 PM

Quote from: TaunSew on June 12, 2014, 04:23:58 PM

Other then Ghosthouse, what other sockpuppets does UF have? Can anyone name a third? If not then don't claim so.

Having a second account is legal given the context. What's scandalous is this sim coin thing but honestly I don't know anything about that coin / don't care.

Why are you so keen on defending the actions of UF?
Serious question.

Don't ad hominen me, it's a logical fallacy. I'm not 'defending anyone', I'm challenging the claim by trolls that UF is a sockmaster but no one has shown a third account or more.

The whole reason why everyone is tumbling over one another is because of the all the "preaching" UF has done about fairness and being trustworthy and all the stuff about being transparant, making contracts...

And now we see he has at least two different accounts with stakes on the stakeholder list (before they were removed).
That's something that removes you from my trust list immediately.

Trust is all we have and when the "founder" of a coin doesn't tell anyone he has several other accounts.... Do I really need to go on?

Which was the second account? If you're saying he had two more, in addition to the main UF account, then I see validity

mikesbmw

sr. member

Activity: 338

Merit: 250

Other then Ghosthouse, what other sockpuppets does UF have? Can anyone name a third? If not then don't claim so.

Having a second account is legal given the context. What's scandalous is this sim coin thing but honestly I don't know anything about that coin / don't care.

Why are you so keen on defending the actions of UF?
Serious question.

Don't ad hominen me, it's a logical fallacy. I'm not 'defending anyone', I'm challenging the claim by trolls that UF is a sockmaster but no one has shown a third account or more.

The whole reason why everyone is tumbling over one another is because of the all the "preaching" UF has done about fairness and being trustworthy and all the stuff about being transparant, making contracts...

And now we see he has at least two different accounts with stakes on the stakeholder list (before they were removed).
That's something that removes you from my trust list immediately.

Trust is all we have and when the "founder" of a coin doesn't tell anyone he has several other accounts.... Do I really need to go on?

TaunSew

hero member

Activity: 756

Merit: 506

Quote from: mladen00 on June 12, 2014, 01:29:31 PM

Other then Ghosthouse, what other sockpuppets does UF have? Can anyone name a third? If not then don't claim so.

Having a second account is legal given the context. What's scandalous is this sim coin thing but honestly I don't know anything about that coin / don't care.

Why are you so keen on defending the actions of UF?
Serious question.

Don't ad hominem me, it's a logical fallacy. I'm not 'defending anyone', I'm challenging the claim by trolls that UF is a sockmaster but no one has shown a third account or more (with stakes)

Eadeqa

hero member

Activity: 644

Merit: 500

Ok, UF doesnt like Simcoin and he created 2 fake accounts for posting on Simcoin thread.

Of course he can't use UF account and writing on another post. He make a mistake, it's not nice to insult others devs ( I LIKE SIMCOIN)

but that doesnt have nothing with NEM.

UF is doing great job for NEM.

This is not all. Those two fake accounts were also on Nem stakeholder list so he has been using sock puppet accounts to claim even more stakes than what he is already getting (percentage of 10%)

mikesbmw

sr. member

Activity: 338

Merit: 250