EDIT:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.120
taylormcm (300NXT ID = 1600951777571459389
50NXT ID = 383155641199039325)
and
antibitcoinconsortium (transaction ID: 1311926364865472858)
both on this site.
my transaction ID 7900843631168107124
What´s the Hash/ tx ID ? Bcause that´s MY NXT ID !?
Topic: [NEM] Public auditing of stakeholder list - page 4. (Read 20638 times)
These are the accounts in question:
NastyTrades -> dave5555
NastyTrades -> annT78
NastyTrades -> nateM7654
NastyTrades -> michaelW8796i
NastyTrades -> mich38754
NastyTrades -> dave5555
NastyTrades -> annT78
NastyTrades -> nateM7654
NastyTrades -> michaelW8796i
NastyTrades -> mich38754
Another thing, I had talked to utopianfuture previously to confirm if I could buy NEM stakes on their behalf and he approved.
I saw my name in your list. You might have to modify your code because I paid through PayPal. So you might be getting people who paid through PayPal.
Your name is not in the final list of groupings.
Most of these are legit, they just need to be checked because there happened to be at some point in time a NXT transaction between two NEM registrants. A lot of NXT people know eachother so there will be noise, which will be filtered out.
Oh ok, thanks.
I saw my name in your list. You might have to modify your code because I paid through PayPal. So you might be getting people who paid through PayPal.
Your name is not in the final list of groupings.
Most of these are legit, they just need to be checked because there happened to be at some point in time a NXT transaction between two NEM registrants. A lot of NXT people know eachother so there will be noise, which will be filtered out.
I am really pleasantly surprised about all the good work you smart people are doing on the multiple buy in list. Its more then I thought you could possibly do. Thanx for all your hard work guys, you should get a bounty for all that.
'experts' can do what they can in the given time
There has not been time to select which names are written down and which are not,
because for the auditing was reserved only limited time and resources.
The target was to get as many connections between accounts as possible.
Why?
Because then there is at least some chance to find the cliques.
Clique is eg. one person trying to reserve 20+ stakes.
Who would let that happen?
To find the cliques, we must have much data = groups.
Because smaller groups may be combined to bigger cliques.
It would be useful - but maybe difficult without luck - to combine NXT groups with BTC groups or other "payments".
The auditing has been public. I guess the reasons for that are:
1) then everyone can do it and check other's work
2) the data is public anyway: everyone has reserved his stake in public forum
and the money transactions in block chains are public
i'd say bs. bs. Until i see the final
pas1991fan -> yajos
What is this?
You are good, from my list I removed the pas1991fan entries because they where associated with an exchange address.
There is a more recent list posted that does not include those entries.
Recall everyone, we are generating lists of groups to audit and many of them will in fact be dismissed after looking into it further.
Thanks, I understand, I was surprised that my name appears several times:
howi53 -> yajos
pas1991fan -> yajos
Abyss_X -> yajos
Scharfenberger -> yajos
Lboss -> yajos
dreggsagg -> yajos
...
pas1991fan -> yajos
What is this?
You are good, from my list I removed the pas1991fan entries because they where associated with an exchange address.
There is a more recent list posted that does not include those entries.
Recall everyone, we are generating lists of groups to audit and many of them will in fact be dismissed after looking into it further.
what line / post you refer?
pas1991fan -> yajos
What is this?
what line / post you refer?
I guess it is because
pas1991fan -> yajos
What is this?
@jkoil #143
Here you can see my transaction id:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5130209
"...edit (16,feb): Transaction id: 7900843631168107124"
I also wrote to patmast3r on feb, 16.
Or what´s the problem?
Here you can see my transaction id:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5130209
"...edit (16,feb): Transaction id: 7900843631168107124"
I also wrote to patmast3r on feb, 16.
Or what´s the problem?
your name is in the current official stakeholder list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c#gid=1
tab "Thread 2" at the botton of the window:
2835 schnötzel Y 1.43432936110987E+19
The transaction id is though wrong: that 1.43432936110987E+19
that is NEM account and that's why you have the same hash/tx id with those 2.
my enthusiasm is limited.
Who knows yet how many members are on it for no reason?
Who knows yet how many members are on it for no reason?
This thread is not an official list. The only remotely offical list is the one linked to in the inital post and even that is not final.
Once the list is completed this will be communicated and then everyone on that list will be able to make their case. Until that time there is no need to argue or trying to justify anything.
It's also worth mentioning that no rules are being changed or applied retroactively.
Super.
Nevertheless, it is called a cheater.
With so many experts here, then please tell me but as I'm on this list
'experts' can do what they can in the given time
* *
An improved version of the earlier clarification :
The concept of this certain type of NXT account auditing (in the pages 8 - 12) is that there is NXT transaction data in these 2 list :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5552636
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5552650
In the list is the transaction written in very minimalistic way: e.g. this
and JeX has paid to Coix or Coix had paid to Jex.
Because there was not any volunteer to start checking the data, I started working on it
The work is quite simple: pick up the names, check their accounts and transactions, write them down, if they form a group of 3+ names, and write group's info here. After that it is other's decision, what to do with that information.
There has not been time to select which names are written down and which are not,
because for the auditing was reserved only limited time and resources.
The target was to get as many connections between accounts as possible.
Why?
Because then there is at least some chance to find the cliques.
Clique is eg. one person trying to reserve 20+ stakes.
Who would let that happen?
To find the cliques, we must have much data = groups.
Because smaller groups may be combined to bigger cliques.
It would be useful - but maybe difficult without luck - to combine NXT groups with BTC groups or other "payments".
The auditing has been public. I guess the reasons for that are:
1) then everyone can do it and check other's work
2) the data is public anyway: everyone has reserved his stake in public forum
and the money transactions in block chains are public
I don't remember when it was announced that there will be a public auditing,
but I guess, it was quite obvious that such is coming. I don't know, coz this was my first IPO
It is not any charge, if someone's account name is in the list, or even appears to this forum within some 'groups'. The data has been collected with a very large scale - in time and in distance, and therefore it contains a lot of data, which is not in the interest of the auditing.
If someone feels uncomfortable because of these posts containing one's account name, I'm sorry about that. I just decided to help project, when appeared such a case that I could do something... as it never knows, if any other opportunity comes in the future
@jkoil #143
Here you can see my transaction id:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5130209
"...edit (16,feb): Transaction id: 7900843631168107124"
I also wrote to patmast3r on feb, 16.
Or what´s the problem?
Here you can see my transaction id:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5130209
"...edit (16,feb): Transaction id: 7900843631168107124"
I also wrote to patmast3r on feb, 16.
Or what´s the problem?
The concept is that there is NXT transaction data in these 2 list :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5552636
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5552650
In the list is the transaction written in very minimalistic way: e.g. this
and JeX has paid to Coix or Coix had paid to Jex.
Because there was not any volunteer to start checking the data, I started working on it
The work is quite simple: pick up the names, check their accounts and transactions, write them down, if they form
a group of 3+ names. After that it is other's decision, what to do with that information.
It is not any charge, if someone's account name is in the list, or even appears to this forum within some 'groups'. The data has been collected with a very large scale - in time and in distance, and therefore it contains also a lot of data, which is not in the interest of the auditing.
If anyone feels uncomfortable because of these posts contain one's account name, I'm sorry about that.
I just decided to help project, when appeared such a case that I could do something... as it never knows, if any other opportunity comes in the future
Yeah, of course! Very well done!
Regards
j0b, operator at #nxtalk on freenode
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