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Topic: [NENG]Nengcoin - Litecoin on Steroids - Scrypt for All Miners - page 30. (Read 46155 times)

member
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Slightly off topic to this discussion but:
My opinion is that, this has been the issue with mining since the beginning. I can tweak the crap out of mid range hardware and get better performance then just plugging in and running much better stuff.

-Dave

I am late into crypto world and I do not know that much on earlier days mining bitcoin, litecoin or dogecoin. But for now for sure, no matter how twig or optimization one can do on old PC, or decent GPU, there is
almost no chance to compete with ASIC for mining rewards.   NENG is exception,  CPU solo miners are fine, GPU solo miners are happy now as the base diff reset and GPU is dominatiing mining again. My NIVIDA GTX1050 is getting blocks every couple of minutes.

The idea of DynDiff variation on top of scrypt is not just to be ASIC unfriendly. The main purpose is to allow individual crypto fans to mine NENG like earlier days on BTC  LTC or DOGE plus the added benefit of decentralization and security on NENG blockchain
newbie
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https://altmarkets.io/voting

we can add NENG to this exchange for only $25 in ALTM coins

Ищy вмeняeмoгo, aдeквaтнoгo пapтнepa для финaнcиpoвaния зaпycкa нoвoгo oбмeнa и дecятoк cвoиx нoвыx мoнeт. (8,99 eвpo в мecяц apeндa cepвepa)


I am looking for a purportedly adequate accessory for financing a new exchange for NENG and several new coins. (8.99 Euro per month renta server)
newbie
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https://altmarkets.io/voting

we can add NENG to this exchange for only $25 in ALTM coins
newbie
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Firstly, I did not talk about ALL awards, I said almost to zero, secondly, zpool.ga does not mine this coin now (for several hours) after shorelinecrypto.com fell and I turned off the "Aggression" mode - if you are interested, we can talk on this subject in more detail, but for now enjoy

-Admin zpool.ga


With all times being EST because I am using the GUI client based in my timzone. During the 24 hour period from 00:01 to 23:59 on Friday the 27th I mined over 200 blocks on a core i5-3450 that I picked up for under $50 and a GTX 1650 that I have been playing with for a few months. (It is one of the few decent modern cards that does not need a PCIe power).

During that same 24 hours how many blocks did your pool find? How much hardware was pointed at it?

Not looking to get into a fight, just looking for more data points.

I have an i7-7700k and a pair of GTX1660 that found fewer blocks during that same time because I did *no* optimizations.

Slightly off topic to this discussion but:
My opinion is that, this has been the issue with mining since the beginning. I can tweak the crap out of mid range hardware and get better performance then just plugging in and running much better stuff.

-Dave

We argue about different problems or you don’t understand the essence and meaning of what you read earlier - re-read it again, if you don’t understand again then use an alternative translator for deaf mute or blind people who is more suitable for you. You better ask questions where to sell this slag! exchange is closed!
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 6320
Crypto Swap Exchange


Firstly, I did not talk about ALL awards, I said almost to zero, secondly, zpool.ga does not mine this coin now (for several hours) after shorelinecrypto.com fell and I turned off the "Aggression" mode - if you are interested, we can talk on this subject in more detail, but for now enjoy

-Admin zpool.ga


With all times being EST because I am using the GUI client based in my timzone. During the 24 hour period from 00:01 to 23:59 on Friday the 27th I mined over 200 blocks on a core i5-3450 that I picked up for under $50 and a GTX 1650 that I have been playing with for a few months. (It is one of the few decent modern cards that does not need a PCIe power).

During that same 24 hours how many blocks did your pool find? How much hardware was pointed at it?

Not looking to get into a fight, just looking for more data points.

I have an i7-7700k and a pair of GTX1660 that found fewer blocks during that same time because I did *no* optimizations.

Slightly off topic to this discussion but:
My opinion is that, this has been the issue with mining since the beginning. I can tweak the crap out of mid range hardware and get better performance then just plugging in and running much better stuff.

-Dave
newbie
Activity: 105
Merit: 0

Here is the proof that zpool ASIC miners are not getting all the rewards:
 http://nengexplorer.mooo.com:3001/block/54d1f46c8bf5ccf1a39dabddfea94712d456ac029156a10d5e1cfbf0f1a1ab00

This is my block. Not 100% sure if it was GPU or Cheetah

I Mined This Block Address NXXPTtCAnozy2kbhjbdXv81xNWzPSNWhoR

Signature of above line:
H3kguZJd/r0QIyEODukUz0bA/llJIfgmQApmuCR5MD84efXjkL2EHIdnw6IvpQgYSkQxSkNR0yaRKRrPEydhaic=


Another proof that CPU Cheetah colo miners are doing fine:

http://nengexplorer.mooo.com:3001/block/db7ed80c4fb13828dbec629df8312d265096d6cb7fa8271c2ee94ef759bb9294

block number 1077390   with difficulty of 0.0002


This one too NNYbNnrtpWoxfSvANAAiGt5vyFt3RtrTQS

Signature of above line:
H/o4Q9V6AdIwXtvV+o65LMWBFTS+L5WC1wfCx6UCqMCEUVQv66LrfJfoUeQ3OBm2ptNUmHukJFAzy8dz/7V0f/8=


-Dave

Firstly, I did not talk about ALL awards, I said almost to zero, secondly, zpool.ga does not mine this coin now (for several hours) after shorelinecrypto.com fell and I turned off the "Aggression" mode - if you are interested, we can talk on this subject in more detail, but for now enjoy

-Admin zpool.ga
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 6320
Crypto Swap Exchange

Here is the proof that zpool ASIC miners are not getting all the rewards:
 http://nengexplorer.mooo.com:3001/block/54d1f46c8bf5ccf1a39dabddfea94712d456ac029156a10d5e1cfbf0f1a1ab00

This is my block. Not 100% sure if it was GPU or Cheetah

I Mined This Block Address NXXPTtCAnozy2kbhjbdXv81xNWzPSNWhoR

Signature of above line:
H3kguZJd/r0QIyEODukUz0bA/llJIfgmQApmuCR5MD84efXjkL2EHIdnw6IvpQgYSkQxSkNR0yaRKRrPEydhaic=


Another proof that CPU Cheetah colo miners are doing fine:

http://nengexplorer.mooo.com:3001/block/db7ed80c4fb13828dbec629df8312d265096d6cb7fa8271c2ee94ef759bb9294

block number 1077390   with difficulty of 0.0002


This one too NNYbNnrtpWoxfSvANAAiGt5vyFt3RtrTQS

Signature of above line:
H/o4Q9V6AdIwXtvV+o65LMWBFTS+L5WC1wfCx6UCqMCEUVQv66LrfJfoUeQ3OBm2ptNUmHukJFAzy8dz/7V0f/8=


-Dave
newbie
Activity: 105
Merit: 0
YES
shorelinecrypto.com ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED

Haвepнoe пpиплыл пpoЭкт...

P.S. Ищy вмeняeмoгo, aдeквaтнoгo пapтнepa для финaнcиpoвaния зaпycкa нoвoгo oбмeнa и дecятoк cвoиx нoвыx мoнeт. (8,99 eвpo в мecяц apeндa cepвepa)
full member
Activity: 407
Merit: 101
newbie
Activity: 105
Merit: 0
NENG MINING POOL

https://zpool.ga/site/mining

-a scrypt -o stratum+tcp://zpool.ga:3433 -u NiZT8k2CyL4eAwwooXiJb9RWwz1dKgR3kd -p c=NENG

admin e-mail [email protected]
https://t.me/TrustedPaymentInstaller

Your fuckin' pool can never determine which coin I roar: NENG or BitcoinScrypt -))))))
c=NENG present

my fuckin' pool found 12,000 blocks in 5 days, and your fuckin' brain does not understand that you need to indicate the name of the coin c=NENG
Бpaтaн, нe нaпpягaйcя, этo жe шyткa -)
Бaзapa нeт, cecтpa, тaм тoлькo fuckin был лишний, a в ocтaльнoм кoнeчнo нa шyткy cмaxивaeт.

P.S. )))
fuckin' - в cмыcлe "чepтoв" -)
NENG aдpeca Ng46aMj8W6sqkVqbAy6mByYRn1nJnUFKPL NQsZJeHNYpqRzVg8AsRccUAMWyJVc6p91w NeHPcemDFxbna8YRycofS2qoj3GCpWsf3P
нa твoeм пyлe oпoзнaютcя кaк NoteBC, дaжe c ключeм c=NENG, глянь.
Oк, paди тaкoгo кипишa я oтключy к xy@м NTBC, и в любoм cлyчae пo любым тexничecким вoпpocaм oбpaщaйтecь cpaзy admin e-mail [email protected]
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
NENG MINING POOL

https://zpool.ga/site/mining

-a scrypt -o stratum+tcp://zpool.ga:3433 -u NiZT8k2CyL4eAwwooXiJb9RWwz1dKgR3kd -p c=NENG

admin e-mail [email protected]
https://t.me/TrustedPaymentInstaller

Your fuckin' pool can never determine which coin I roar: NENG or BitcoinScrypt -))))))
c=NENG present

my fuckin' pool found 12,000 blocks in 5 days, and your fuckin' brain does not understand that you need to indicate the name of the coin c=NENG
Бpaтaн, нe нaпpягaйcя, этo жe шyткa -)
Бaзapa нeт, cecтpa, тaм тoлькo fuckin был лишний, a в ocтaльнoм кoнeчнo нa шyткy cмaxивaeт.

P.S. )))
fuckin' - в cмыcлe "чepтoв" -)
NENG aдpeca Ng46aMj8W6sqkVqbAy6mByYRn1nJnUFKPL NQsZJeHNYpqRzVg8AsRccUAMWyJVc6p91w NeHPcemDFxbna8YRycofS2qoj3GCpWsf3P
нa твoeм пyлe oпoзнaютcя кaк NoteBC, дaжe c ключeм c=NENG, глянь.
newbie
Activity: 105
Merit: 0
NENG MINING POOL

https://zpool.ga/site/mining

-a scrypt -o stratum+tcp://zpool.ga:3433 -u NiZT8k2CyL4eAwwooXiJb9RWwz1dKgR3kd -p c=NENG

admin e-mail [email protected]
https://t.me/TrustedPaymentInstaller

Your fuckin' pool can never determine which coin I roar: NENG or BitcoinScrypt -))))))
c=NENG present

my fuckin' pool found 12,000 blocks in 5 days, and your fuckin' brain does not understand that you need to indicate the name of the coin c=NENG
Бpaтaн, нe нaпpягaйcя, этo жe шyткa -)
Бaзapa нeт, cecтpa, тaм тoлькo fuckin был лишний, a в ocтaльнoм кoнeчнo нa шyткy cмaxивaeт.

P.S. )))
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
NENG MINING POOL

https://zpool.ga/site/mining

-a scrypt -o stratum+tcp://zpool.ga:3433 -u NiZT8k2CyL4eAwwooXiJb9RWwz1dKgR3kd -p c=NENG

admin e-mail [email protected]
https://t.me/TrustedPaymentInstaller

Your fuckin' pool can never determine which coin I roar: NENG or BitcoinScrypt -))))))
c=NENG present

my fuckin' pool found 12,000 blocks in 5 days, and your fuckin' brain does not understand that you need to indicate the name of the coin c=NENG
Бpaтaн, нe нaпpягaйcя, этo жe шyткa -)
member
Activity: 1554
Merit: 23
Another proof that CPU Cheetah colo miners are doing fine:

http://nengexplorer.mooo.com:3001/block/db7ed80c4fb13828dbec629df8312d265096d6cb7fa8271c2ee94ef759bb9294

block number 1077390   with difficulty of 0.0002

Another reward for CPU Cheetah miner.  Not my server.  Some desktop windows or MacOS, or Linux cpu miners there running on Cheetah.

GPU solo or pool mining rewards now is close to 0%, nothing.  ASIC miners are likely to get 80% to 90% of all blocks,  CPU Cheetah miners are getting about 10% to 20% of block by my quick estimate.

Conclusion:  NENG DynDiff code base on top of scrypt is not broken.  It is still working as a decentralized variation of scrypt algorithm protecting the blockchain against 51% attack.
member
Activity: 1554
Merit: 23
You probably don’t understand why this period became so short? On zpool.ga I added only 5 lines of program code that reduced almost everything to zero, the so-called "Anti-51% Attack, Anti-instant Mining"

You just had to be careful and think well before making such loud statements about - Anti-51% Attack, Anti-instant Mining
Last 24 Hours 4000 find block https://zpool.ga/

Got it, what you claimed is that your mining pool basically broke the NENG dyndiff code base and dominate the whole mining period with mining software change.   Let's see whether your code change work or not.  

I have a solo CPU cheetah miners running 24 hours per day.  If your claim is true, then CPU solo miners should get zero reward from now on.  

Just an update on CPU solo miner situation.  zpool.ga mining pool (big ASIC miners mainly) maybe dominating the GPU solo miner recently, but not against CPU cheetah solo miners.

My solo cheetah miner (2 core CPU) last reward was Dec 24, 2019, did poorly.  However, there are a lot Cheetah CPU solo miners on NENG.

Here is the proof that zpool ASIC miners are not getting all the rewards:
 http://nengexplorer.mooo.com:3001/block/54d1f46c8bf5ccf1a39dabddfea94712d456ac029156a10d5e1cfbf0f1a1ab00

block number 1077334   with difficulty of 0.0002

Here is https://zpool.ga/site/block?id=1533  block reward page, obviously zpool is not getting this block.  This block was mined most likely by a CPU Cheetah miner, not by my server, a memer CPU miner there.

ASIC big pool miners lose rewards to CPU Cheetah solo miners, then the theory of anti-51% attack in the published paper of NENG still holds.  It is three sides mining competition, CPU vs GPU vs ASIC.  No one side is getting all.

GPU solo miners or pool miners now would struggle to get any block.  CPU Cheetah solo miners are still doing fine. 
newbie
Activity: 105
Merit: 0
Base difficulty has reset to very low level now.  Another boom time for GPU or small ASIC solo miners while ASIC big miners or big pool will struggle to get any reward now.

but as you already noticed my pool https://zpool.ga/ solved this problem too

Well, GPU dominant period was over, and very short. only about 1 day. Now is the period that big ASIC and Pools are dominant.

It is all about competition. Months ago earlier 2019, GPU dominant period after reset was very long, several days. Now is only one day. Most likely case that there are a lots of GPU solo miners nowadays
waiting on NENG and jump in immediately. The more GPU miners also means that the GPU period is over quite quick and move back to ASIC domination.

It is true another way around too. If there are lots more big ASIC miners rushing into NENG, ASIC period could be over very short and move to CPU and GPU dominant period.
You probably don’t understand why this period became so short? On zpool.ga I added only 5 lines of program code that reduced almost everything to zero, the so-called "Anti-51% Attack, Anti-instant Mining"

You just had to be careful and think well before making such loud statements about - Anti-51% Attack, Anti-instant Mining
Last 24 Hours 4000 find block https://zpool.ga/
member
Activity: 1554
Merit: 23
Base difficulty has reset to very low level now.  Another boom time for GPU or small ASIC solo miners while ASIC big miners or big pool will struggle to get any reward now.

but as you already noticed my pool https://zpool.ga/ solved this problem too

Well, GPU dominant period was over, and very short. only about 1 day. Now is the period that big ASIC and Pools are dominant.

It is all about competition. Months ago earlier 2019, GPU dominant period after reset was very long, several days. Now is only one day. Most likely case that there are a lots of GPU solo miners nowadays
waiting on NENG and jump in immediately. The more GPU miners also means that the GPU period is over quite quick and move back to ASIC domination.

It is true another way around too. If there are lots more big ASIC miners rushing into NENG, ASIC period could be over very short and move to CPU and GPU dominant period.
newbie
Activity: 105
Merit: 0
Base difficulty has reset to very low level now.  Another boom time for GPU or small ASIC solo miners while ASIC big miners or big pool will struggle to get any reward now.

but as you already noticed my pool https://zpool.ga/ solved this problem too
newbie
Activity: 105
Merit: 0
NENG MINING POOL

https://zpool.ga/site/mining

-a scrypt -o stratum+tcp://zpool.ga:3433 -u NiZT8k2CyL4eAwwooXiJb9RWwz1dKgR3kd -p c=NENG

admin e-mail [email protected]
https://t.me/TrustedPaymentInstaller

Your fuckin' pool can never determine which coin I roar: NENG or BitcoinScrypt -))))))
c=NENG present

my fuckin' pool found 12,000 blocks in 5 days, and your fuckin' brain does not understand that you need to indicate the name of the coin c=NENG
member
Activity: 1554
Merit: 23
Base difficulty has reset to very low level now.  Another boom time for GPU or small ASIC solo miners while ASIC big miners or big pool will struggle to get any reward now.
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