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Topic: | NEO Smart Economy⚡Now a Top 10 Cryptocurrency⚡| Official Thread |Updated Aug10 - page 273. (Read 241263 times)

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how often do NEO addresses generate gas and how much Gas will be sent per one Neo?
i haven't really thoughf of getting  some Gas just as i haven't collected any byteballs with the btcs i got. but since gas is worth $32, i now might.

NEO constantly generates GAS when held in one's personal wallet. To calculate how much you will get, you can best use the following website: https://neotogas.com/ Binance as an exchange hands out GAS once a month which is the alternative to holding it in your personal wallet to generate GAS.

This was good information. I didnt know I could keep my neo at binance to generate gas. Thanks for this Smiley
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What is the difference between NEO and other clones of ETH? why have you reserved 50% of NEO tokens for yourself and are they generating GAS? when I tried to find something about how to obtain some NEO all I could find was the links to some exchanges asking me to buy, why would you call it a cryptocurrency while you are the only one with access to the whole supply? that's the definition of centralization.

NEO is not a clone of Ethereum, but the improved version of Ethereum just like Ethereum was the improved version of Bitcoin.

NEO has:

1) Support for multiple programming languages unlike Ethereum which only supports Solidity.
2) It uses the decentralised Byzantine Fault Tolerance consensus system (dBFT) as opposed to Proof of Work or Proof of Stake. As a result of that, NEO can already handle 1000 transactions per second and with optimisation 10,000 transactions per second. At the moment Bitcoin and Ethereum have respectively 7 and 15 transactions per second.
3) NEO has the infrastructure for a digital identity in the system. This makes it optimal for business and legal nation supported activity.
4) NEO cannot fork due to the dBFT and therefore cannot cause a crisis in confidence like Bitcoin and Ethereum can.
5) It would cost about as much energy around 2020 to run Bitcoin as the entire nation of Denmark uses. In contrast NEO is one of the most energy efficient solutions around. This also means that whatever fees other networks can charge, NEO can ALWAYS undercut them.
6) NEO will be quantum resistant. This is far more important than most realise as Western powers who are losing power due to blockchain technology and the BRICS alliance seek to undermine the competition to central banking. Expect the Langley supercomputers to steal all funds in the accounts of the low quality cryptocurrencies in the near future.
7) NEO focuses not on being a 'cryptocurrency' as so many others do, but more as a platform on which a smart economy can run. Everything NEO does is optimised for exactly that.
8 ) NEO is the first blockchain created in China. Various Western companies have attempted to penetrate the Chinese markets and they failed time after time. China is also already the greatest industrial power of this time and the full extent of that industrial power is not yet visible as the USD as world reserve currency has not been fully dethroned, but it will happen in the next few years. NEO will thus almost certainly find the greatest acceptance among the greatest industrial power of the world.
9) Various countries across the world are already developing national currencies to be put on blockchain including Russia and China. Whether you know it or not, Russia and China will be backing their blockchain based currencies with gold for maximum trust. All cryptocurrencies which do not have something to offer besides the assumption that they are 'money' will take a massive hit as they cannot properly compete when the world goes to asset backed currency to fill the vacuum that the USD as world reserve currency left. NEO has significant added value as its primary function is not to pretend to be a form of real money, but instead a key platform for the smart economy.
10) As NEO does not market itself as a currency, it can never be negatively affected by countries who seek to crack down on cryptocurrencies (as Australia for example recently is attempting to do). NEO's digital identity infrastructure can make it comply perfectly with the regulations of countries. As a matter of fact, it would appear that NEO has a template ready near the end of September or beginning of October which allows ICOs to be launched and be in compliance with the laws of practically all nations on the Earth (including the new SEC regulations).

NEO is a community project. It is not owned by anyone. The 50 million shares are not owned by the founders. The remaining 50 million NEO will be distributed as follows:

    10 million tokens (10% total) will be used to motivate NEO developers and members of the NEO Council
    10 million tokens (10% total) will be used to motivate developers in the NEO ecosystem
    15 million tokens (15% total) will be used to cross-invest in other block-chain projects, which are owned by the NEO Council and are used only for NEO projects
    15 million (15% total) will be retained as contingency
    The annual use of NEO in principle shall not exceed 15 million tokens

Da Hongfei has already stated that he expected the annual use of NEO to fall below the 15 million NEO tokens as the rise in price has greatly enhanced the NEO budgets.

Also note that this use of the 50 million NEO tokens can rightfully be called point 11 in favour of NEO. Ethereum in its first years had massive inflation and that inflation only went to its miners without giving much back of value. NEO on the other hand uses the inflation that it has to build the NEO blockchain further. The benefits of this should exceed the costs.

So what is the catch? NEO only has 3 potential downsides at the moment and I expect each and everyone of them to be fully resolved in the very best way possible:

1) NEO is not yet as decentralised as it ultimately will be. The founders acknowledge this and this will be resolved as more and more of the full potential of the NEO blockchain gets deployed.
2) There would be ways to affect the voting for nodes in a way advantageous to NEO cartels, but NEO supporters have been in talks with Eric Zhang to further perfect and decentralise this process. A solution thus seems to have been found already to this.
3) NEO still has to build various facets of its development plan. (Then again, so do practically all other blockchains)

What is not often known is that NEO was developed at the most elite universities of China. NEO does have some China's very best and brightest behind it.
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Hey, I have a problem with my NEO wallet. I can't claim my GAS, it is saying it is unavailable.. Can somebody help me with this?

You need to send your NEO from your own address to your own address before you can claim your GAS via a desktop wallet. Alternatively you can use the NEON wallet which has a button to claim GAS, but you need to login with your private key in order to use that wallet and thus carries a greater security risk, but it is a light wallet and thus very fast.

Something to add to the Neon wallet, but when you close/log off the app.. it still running in background.. not sure why/secure?

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For all the assholes claiming there's only two developers

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You probably know me, I'm the "founder" of CoZ. An independent, international group of open source developers working on NEO blockchain. And I'm writing this with the freedom that gives me.
This days we are handling the dozens of devs joining us. Yes, dozens.
NEO is a open source community driven project. It is also a new approach in blockchain development - it was bootstrapped by some very skilled devs (in AntShares, now NEO core). But it is and will be much bigger.
Currently there is two major fronts, /u/neo_council is growing the Chinese speaking community. And CoZ is growing the online international one. There will be more, we are just the first.
IF you cant see people or development on GitHub that doesn't mean anything, most members choose to be private - to avoid the public attention (scammers and spam). You see only what the system put on front of you, but the rabbit hole is much deeper. To ilustrate this, I have setup my participation on it to public (so this can be verified by the crazy dudes that appear in reddit).
Here is how many devs are in NEO org: https://imgur.com/a/CSyBK
Here is how many devs are in CoZ org: https://imgur.com/a/BYJf9
Here is NEO core growing the Chinese community: https://imgur.com/a/GfJPO
When accepting PRs into CoZ and NEO they are squash merged, this means that the 10s of commits someone does in a PRs branch become only 1! http://imgur.com/a/fUTCk There are many reasons for this.
Important development happens also in private due to the sensitivity of it. In CoZ most of us are holders, so we want and will do what we can to protect our investment, our tools to do so is are our technical skills.
Now stop this nonsense, back to code!
Give it time, all will come to light in near future. Yes this is a teaser If you have not been able to understand.
And if you want: JOIN US IN SLACK, you are invited!
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Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/NEO/comments/6uwoig/stop_the_2_dev_talk_there_is_no_spoon_i_will_show/
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What is the difference between NEO and other clones of ETH? why have you reserved 50% of NEO tokens for yourself and are they generating GAS? when I tried to find something about how to obtain some NEO all I could find was the links to some exchanges asking me to buy, why would you call it a cryptocurrency while you are the only one with access to the whole supply? that's the definition of centralization.

From what I remember during the ICO, there seemed to be a Microsoft connection. Perhaps something to do with that.
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What is the difference between NEO and other clones of ETH? why have you reserved 50% of NEO tokens for yourself and are they generating GAS? when I tried to find something about how to obtain some NEO all I could find was the links to some exchanges asking me to buy, why would you call it a cryptocurrency while you are the only one with access to the whole supply? that's the definition of centralization.
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Hey, I have a problem with my NEO wallet. I can't claim my GAS, it is saying it is unavailable.. Can somebody help me with this?

You need to send your NEO from your own address to your own address before you can claim your GAS. Alternatively you can use the NEON wallet which has a button to claim GAS, but you need to login with your private key in order to use that wallet and thus carries a greater security risk, but it is a light wallet and thus very fast.


Oh I thought he is talking about the NEON Wallet, that's what I'm using and claiming Gas there.

Alternatively you can hold at Binance exchange, they credit Gas monthly afaik
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Hey, I have a problem with my NEO wallet. I can't claim my GAS, it is saying it is unavailable.. Can somebody help me with this?

Or maybe get your answer here because surely you are not alone in this, although not even a problem.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NEO/
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Hey, I have a problem with my NEO wallet. I can't claim my GAS, it is saying it is unavailable.. Can somebody help me with this?

You need to send your NEO from your own address to your own address before you can claim your GAS via a desktop wallet. Alternatively you can use the NEON wallet which has a button to claim GAS, but you need to login with your private key in order to use that wallet and thus carries a greater security risk, but it is a light wallet and thus very fast.
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Hey, I have a problem with my NEO wallet. I can't claim my GAS, it is saying it is unavailable.. Can somebody help me with this?

I would check Neo website and contact support there, maybe via Slack or whatever they mention
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Hey, I have a problem with my NEO wallet. I can't claim my GAS, it is saying it is unavailable.. Can somebody help me with this?
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Video explaining difference between Bitcoin, Ethereum and NEO (the video is a bit older and therefore reference is made to Antshares instead of NEO):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV1Z99BC9kI

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Picture of the NEO - Microsoft Azure workshop:

https://twitter.com/neolover2017/status/899278630047633410

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Comment from the CoZ founder on the propaganda that there are only 2 NEO developers:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NEO/comments/6uwoig/stop_the_2_dev_talk_there_is_no_spoon_i_will_show/

Further clarification on the matter why the Github activity is lower than some expect:

https://i.imgur.com/q7kCyUn.png

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New NEO ICO called High Performance Blockchain (HPB):

https://www.reddit.com/r/NEO/comments/6uutr1/hpb_blockchain_ico_on_neo_network/

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Do you guys have any issues when claiming Gas recently? I do get unconfirmed transactions, does not change even if I repair index.

Works for me using Mac Wallet
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Do you guys have any issues when claiming Gas recently? I do get unconfirmed transactions, does not change even if I repair index.
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Guys, is it okay that i just opened my neo wallet on neotracker.io using my private key ? Or is that a big no no ?

Thanks guys.

Yes its safe, the websites that you can find on the side bar on reddit are safe.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NEO/

Thanks bro, was worried that i might have to go through the whole process of creating a new wallet again, lol
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Guys, is it okay that i just opened my neo wallet on neotracker.io using my private key ? Or is that a big no no ?

Thanks guys.

Yes its safe, the websites that you can find on the side bar on reddit are safe.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NEO/
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Guys, is it okay that i just opened my neo wallet on neotracker.io using my private key ? Or is that a big no no ?

Thanks guys.
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Some ICOs on NEO are coming up now. Is it possible to hold these tokens in the NEO Wallet as well? Or how will this be handled?
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how often do NEO addresses generate gas and how much Gas will be sent per one Neo?
i haven't really thoughf of getting  some Gas just as i haven't collected any byteballs with the btcs i got. but since gas is worth $32, i now might.

NEO constantly generates GAS when held in one's personal wallet. To calculate how much you will get, you can best use the following website: https://neotogas.com/ Binance as an exchange hands out GAS once a month which is the alternative to holding it in your personal wallet to generate GAS.
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Query-My understanding was that for every 1000 NEO one would earn approximately .44 NEO Gas/day.  Based on my experience I seem to be earning something much less than that (i.e.,  approximately .22 NEO Gas/day).  Anyone have a similar calculation on their gas/day?  Thanks in advance.

The block creation time currently takes longer than 15 seconds. This means that at the moment less GAS is being created per NEO. From what I understand this has to do with the volume on the blockchain, so that no empty blocks are being created and thus that as the volume on the NEO blockchain picks up, the GAS generation also should pick up speed. Perhaps the GAS price is higher now than it otherwise would have been in case more GAS would have been created, so that should somewhat compensate I suppose.

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got 2 questions:

1.) will gas gain daily even if the wallet is offline? /aka cold storage. I know most POS requires staking weight to validate the xsfers and gain a % of the xsfer fees in order to gain more coins.

2.) i know there is 1 exchange now that allows trading the neo's gas but is there any more exchanges out there /bittrex?

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1) GAS is allocated to NEO held in an address, so as long as the blockchain knows there are NEO located at a certain address, then GAS will be generated in that address. I myself store my wallet offline and practically never login and I just use my public address at https://neotogas.com/?p=balance to check my balance and thereby minimize security risks. My wallet keeps generating GAS just fine.
2) There are currently 3 GAS exchanges: https://coinmarketcap.com/assets/gas/#markets


Thanks all!

how often do NEO addresses generate gas and how much Gas will be sent per one Neo?
i haven't really thoughf of getting  some Gas just as i haven't collected any byteballs with the btcs i got. but since gas is worth $32, i now might.
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