I'm not against their idea of them trying to mix men and women in one team since it's up to them. But I don't think for the next years or 10 years, we will see a lot of chances like this since there will always be a difference when it comes to their strength.
Let's be honest, even if we say that some women can be as strong as other men or can be as good as them, in this kind of sport, physical contact is inevitable and that would be hard for them to play with men. But it's also kinda interesting to see how well the game will be.
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August 05, 2020, 07:19:54 AM
August 05, 2020, 06:52:31 AM
I voted no way as a man is always a man and a woman is always a woman so they are attracted to each other.I always think that the man players can touch or intentionally slide down or fall above the woman when they fight for the ball,I mean the players from the team they are playing against.It takes time to sort this out and problems like these have been shown even when only the referee was a woman.You cannot fight laws of nature.
If it happens though it would be real fun to watch.
If it happens though it would be real fun to watch.
August 05, 2020, 06:35:47 AM
If some talented girl shows up, can you imagine that she plays for the first team of Ajax or PSV, in the Champions League match against Real or Barcelona?
if she can keep up or be a better athlete even among the male athlete in the team, why not. also, it'll be interesting to watch a mixed-gender match. If any of you would like to bet, what do you think are the chances of a woman playing in the first men's team of Ajax or PSV in the next 10 years?
if they are serious this it'll be 100%. but if they are just doing this just to please someone? I doubt we'll be seeing a woman playing in men's team of Ajax or PSV
August 05, 2020, 06:30:27 AM
Never going to happen imo, they’re smaller, weaker, slower, just not going to happen imo.
But the problem is that they are never going to admit it, right? If the women players are so confident that they can compete among the men, then why it can't be vice-versa? Why can't male players compete in the women's teams? Anyway I wish Elle Fokkema all the best. If she is good, then she may get a permanent slot in the VV Foarut playing XI.
August 05, 2020, 06:23:26 AM
-snip-when it comes to physical games there should be separation between man and woman especially on football where the games become rough and out of control.
I don't know what kind of football you watch, but out-of-control doesn't happen, that's what the referees are for. To be honest, I don't see any problem with women being admitted to the highest divisions. I can well imagine that women from the Bayern Munich team, for example, play much better than players in middle-class teams in other smaller leagues. So at the end of the day it's not the gender that should count here, but the performance of the player.
However, there have been matches of very good women's teams against supposedly much weaker men's teams, for example in 2016 the national team of Australia (then ranked fifth in the world) played against a U15 delegation from Newcastle. The women lost very clearly with 0:7:
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In quite some setback ahead of the summer Olympics in Rio, Australia Women's team have lost 7-0 to a Newcastle Jets Under-15 side.
'The Matildas', pictured above in January, are ranked fifth in the FIFA world rankings and have reached the last three World Cup quarter-finals, but saw their confidence hit earlier this week with a humbling at the hands of some kids.
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'The Matildas', pictured above in January, are ranked fifth in the FIFA world rankings and have reached the last three World Cup quarter-finals, but saw their confidence hit earlier this week with a humbling at the hands of some kids.
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August 05, 2020, 06:17:25 AM
Teams in sports like Tennis, Badminton, etc. play on different sides of the net. So it is possible to conduct mixed matches in such sports. Although, even in such sports Men's double team having let say 205th ranking can easily defeat world number one women's double team.
But in physical sports like football, it is impossible. Even fourth division men's team can play better than the first division women's champion because men are physically stronger and better than women.
I don't want to watch a match where Traorè makes a shoulder challenge and girl bounces and lands 2 meters away.
Sorry for sounding too patriarchal but that's a truth.
I don't know why there is a need to play girls in men's team! We already have women leagues where top teams like Barca Femini, Ajax, PSG play. Those leagues have high viewership too and people enjoy watching them too.
But in physical sports like football, it is impossible. Even fourth division men's team can play better than the first division women's champion because men are physically stronger and better than women.
I don't want to watch a match where Traorè makes a shoulder challenge and girl bounces and lands 2 meters away.
Sorry for sounding too patriarchal but that's a truth. I don't know why there is a need to play girls in men's team! We already have women leagues where top teams like Barca Femini, Ajax, PSG play. Those leagues have high viewership too and people enjoy watching them too.
August 05, 2020, 06:05:00 AM
To be a referee is a huge accomplishment as we usually do not have much female referee but for females to play alongside men is the stupidest idea ever and that too in major leagues, exhibition matches i do not mind seeing anyone in the team but major leagues battling for major trophies and you want to create sensation for the purpose of creating one. Never ever i want to see those experiments as there is a reason for separate leagues for men and woman.
The organization should look on the anatomy of a man and woman to come out of the decision, we want equality but it will not apply to a physical game like football, when it comes to physical games there should be separation between man and woman especially on football where the games become rough and out of control.
August 05, 2020, 05:35:42 AM
I just read the link but that is just about the 1 woman who can play in men's team but she has to move out of the division once they progress,,, unless I misread it.
Mixed teams are already normal in Netherlands and even in many countries and I agree we can have a mixed league. But no offence, men and women performance are HUGE difference.
Mixed teams are already normal in Netherlands and even in many countries and I agree we can have a mixed league. But no offence, men and women performance are HUGE difference.
August 05, 2020, 05:15:56 AM
Interesting.
But I wonder if that won't make the male and female players to be be too careful to avoid bumping against each other and mistakenly touching things (esp the hidden parts) that men/women shouldn't touch(esp intentionally) without consent.
Female referees and Female coaching men are OK as long the female coach is careful when playing with the men... Same as male coaching female players
But I wonder if that won't make the male and female players to be be too careful to avoid bumping against each other and mistakenly touching things (esp the hidden parts) that men/women shouldn't touch(esp intentionally) without consent.
Female referees and Female coaching men are OK as long the female coach is careful when playing with the men... Same as male coaching female players
August 05, 2020, 05:13:49 AM
Never going to happen imo, they’re smaller, weaker, slower, just not going to happen imo.
August 05, 2020, 05:13:29 AM
If any of you would like to bet, what do you think are the chances of a woman playing in the first men's team of Ajax or PSV in the next 10 years?
0.0%. It's just not possible because of physical preconditions, where men have clear advantage. In some lower division it might be possible, but will bring a lot of other issues (like having additional locker room etc.).
Men and women competing on the same level is only possible, when fitness, muscles, height etc. plays no role. Like in Darts for example, where Fallon Sherrock was doing great in the PDC Championship last year. Or in Chess, Poker etc.
August 05, 2020, 05:07:48 AM
We're already used to female referees in men's football and even women who coach men's soccer teams.
Soon it will be time for women to play alongside men on the same football team
To be a referee is a huge accomplishment as we usually do not have much female referee but for females to play alongside men is the stupidest idea ever and that too in major leagues, exhibition matches i do not mind seeing anyone in the team but major leagues battling for major trophies and you want to create sensation for the purpose of creating one. Never ever i want to see those experiments as there is a reason for separate leagues for men and woman. Soon it will be time for women to play alongside men on the same football team
August 05, 2020, 04:58:39 AM
With this soon we can watch mixed football matches same as that we have with the tennis. Another thing women won't get much exposure to the international play same as the men do. With the initiative taken by Netherlands Football Authority more young girls who are good in football will be known to the world.
August 05, 2020, 04:50:21 AM
OK I had nowhere to publish this so I started a new theme
Here is the official news:
''A new pilot scheme that will allow amateur women to play in a senior men's team in the Netherlands has been approved by the Dutch Football Association.
The KNVB has given permission for one woman - 19-year-old Elle Fokkema - to join fourth-tier VV Foarut for the 2020-21 season.
The pilot could lead to regulations amended permanently to allow more women to play 'category A' men's football.''
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53649795
What do you think of this?
If some talented girl shows up, can you imagine that she plays for the first team of Ajax or PSV, in the Champions League match against Real or Barcelona?
Personally, I'd like to watch it and I think it would be very interesting.
We're already used to female referees in men's football and even women who coach men's soccer teams.
Soon it will be time for women to play alongside men on the same football team
If any of you would like to bet, what do you think are the chances of a woman playing in the first men's team of Ajax or PSV in the next 10 years?
Here is the official news:
''A new pilot scheme that will allow amateur women to play in a senior men's team in the Netherlands has been approved by the Dutch Football Association.
The KNVB has given permission for one woman - 19-year-old Elle Fokkema - to join fourth-tier VV Foarut for the 2020-21 season.
The pilot could lead to regulations amended permanently to allow more women to play 'category A' men's football.''
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53649795
What do you think of this?
If some talented girl shows up, can you imagine that she plays for the first team of Ajax or PSV, in the Champions League match against Real or Barcelona?
Personally, I'd like to watch it and I think it would be very interesting.
We're already used to female referees in men's football and even women who coach men's soccer teams.
Soon it will be time for women to play alongside men on the same football team
If any of you would like to bet, what do you think are the chances of a woman playing in the first men's team of Ajax or PSV in the next 10 years?
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