New 400 BTC Bounty Pales Roger Ver's 37.6 BTC Bounty for Return of Stolen BTC - page 3.

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Quote from: btchip on June 14, 2014, 05:15:30 AM

Quote from: ahmedjadoon on June 14, 2014, 04:57:42 AM

So this must be largest bounty ever offered in history of BTCBTCBTC.I think it should be featured in major magazines. Good luck to OP

The bounty is not doing to do much if there's no way to obtain more information about transactions.

Again, I'm not saying that Phinnaeus is lying here - just that without more information it's not possible to prove anything, neither on his or InstaWallet side.

One thing that would easily tell everyone a lot would be the audit which was supposed to have happened. Or information from the analysis of the supposed hack. Or from the police investigation which was supposed to be underway. Or especially all of the above.

For some reason none of these things seemed to be very forthcoming and any questions about them were studiously ignored by the Paymium folks for a long time. When little bits of information did appear they were extremely vague. True, it is 'none of my business' since I was payed off for my minor loss at the place. An audit of the records from Instawallet, on the other hand, may very well be the business of those who have not been paid what they claim to be owed, and would very likely confirm or deny the parts of PG's story that he can remember. It is a very reasonable hypothesis that this is exactly why the audit, if it ever happened at all, remains shrouded from view.

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Quote from: ahmedjadoon on June 14, 2014, 04:57:42 AM

So this must be largest bounty ever offered in history of BTCBTCBTC.I think it should be featured in major magazines. Good luck to OP

The bounty is not doing to do much if there's no way to obtain more information about transactions.

Again, I'm not saying that Phinnaeus is lying here - just that without more information it's not possible to prove anything, neither on his or InstaWallet side.

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So this must be largest bounty ever offered in history of BTCBTCBTC.I think it should be featured in major magazines. Good luck to OP

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Quote from: smoothie on June 13, 2014, 04:49:12 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: S4VV4S on June 12, 2014, 08:26:24 AM

Like I said if I was Davout, I would pay out the 50K and make a public notice that PG (just like other members) was refunded some of the lost money from the InstaWallet hack.

Like I said, Davout has accepted the deal I proposed here, so let see if OP will honor is bounty

I'm available here or by PM to write agreement in the stone

I have a lawyer available to settle the agreement, that I will pay on my part of the Bounty.

Proof? Link?

Quote from: davout on June 12, 2014, 08:18:19 AM

Quote from: davout on June 12, 2014, 07:28:09 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Deal ?

Vendu!

Quand je dis vendu, ça veut dire que je suis simplement d'accord pour échanger $50k contre 300 BTC, rien de plus.
Ton message laisse entendre que ça constitue un settlement avec PG, ce qui n'est pas le cas.
Je t'invite à clarifier sur l'autre thread :-)

but the deal was : davout sends 50k$ and sardokan gets 400btc and gives back 100btc to davout

it was based on a misreading of the bountie that PG is giving

So basically a joke

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Quote from: S4VV4S on June 12, 2014, 08:26:24 AM

Like I said if I was Davout, I would pay out the 50K and make a public notice that PG (just like other members) was refunded some of the lost money from the InstaWallet hack.

Like I said, Davout has accepted the deal I proposed here, so let see if OP will honor is bounty

I'm available here or by PM to write agreement in the stone

I have a lawyer available to settle the agreement, that I will pay on my part of the Bounty.

Proof? Link?

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on June 12, 2014, 05:23:05 AM

Quote from: runam0k on June 12, 2014, 05:15:42 AM

Well if I was davout, I'd have a "buddy" negotiate this settlement pronto - settle for $50k, take the 400BTC reward. Easy money! Grin

SOB! I didn't think of that, that he may use this thread now to his advantage, and still come out like a motherfuckin' bandit. Fuck me royal! The only thing I can say about this revelation is that he best have an anonymous pseudo-liaison (or is it pseudo-anonymous liaison?) person in place, otherwise I will get really pissed.

Perhaps you should require the person to prove their identity to get the bounty? Just a suggestion.

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Looks like davout is posting in the french section:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7268591

Here above is his first post I believe in that thread of many. Perhaps someone can translate and persuade him to come to this thread to discuss?

Seems like he is hiding out over there instead lol

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Quote from: smoothie on June 13, 2014, 04:25:32 PM

PG,

Not that I doubt you brother, but I do question what the original address was that you sent BTC from to their site?

Or did you buy the account from someone?

It sounds like it was either sent directly to an instawallet address when he bought it from the guy with the red truck, or something about a blockchain.info address. I hope he can clarify all of this so people can help.

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Wait so the bounty is still on? Shocked

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Quote from: justusranvier on June 12, 2014, 04:42:26 AM

Quote from: tvbcof on June 12, 2014, 03:37:54 AM

I've watched the whole Instawallet fiasco like a hawk because I had some BTC in Instawallet.

I never used Instalwallet, but I did keep an eye on how davout and boussac behaved during and after the incident because they are involved in other Bitcoin projects.

The way they handled the situation looks to me consistent with what I'd expect from scammers.

Honest people would show some signs of remorse and humility after losing so much of other people's money - they were arrogant and hostile instead.

After reading up on the posts from boussac and davout concerning this fiasco, I agree with this post. They had really no remorse and made very little attempt to make things right with PG as far as public record confirms.

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on June 12, 2014, 01:43:21 AM

Boussac was approached in Amsterdam prior to going on stage at the recent Bitcoin conference held there, and refused to discuss any of the InstaWallet claims.

Who approached him?

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PG,

Not that I doubt you brother, but I do question what the original address was that you sent BTC from to their site?

Or did you buy the account from someone?

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Quote from: madmat on June 13, 2014, 08:06:57 AM

Quote from: Nicolas Dorier on June 13, 2014, 06:21:35 AM

Quote from: guigui371 on June 13, 2014, 06:16:45 AM

i want to point out that at the begining of the thread a lot of commente were against frenchies and now the 2-3 guys who are helping Bruno are FRENCH !!

what an irony

French always agree to disagree... That's why you always have the two extremes with constant fight between each others :p

I made some comments agains french at the beginning, but it was ironic, i am french too.I just can't understand people who do such stupid generalities about people.

i'm french too honey

it was directed to some people who refere their country to a whole continent

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Quote from: cryptopaths on June 13, 2014, 03:33:03 PM

What is davouts official response to this?

something like : "we don't have in our database any transaction that link any of your adresses to any of yours, please provide us a transaction ID or proof of ownership"

it is my interpretation of everything i have read here and in the french part

and of course it is a simple way to say it, much more technical words have been used Grin

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What is davouts official response to this?

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phin,i bought sweet and salt pop corn.this story is now a joe pesci movie for me .as the time will pass the non violence rule will be more flexible,thats the ice cream part.

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Quote from: BlueBitAUT on June 13, 2014, 10:31:23 AM

Phinn,

I can understand you might be exhausted etc.
But I also think you need to get the facts together and answer to asked questions, if you're looking for help.
I am pretty sure no one wants to collect all "maybes, im not sures, i can't tells" from all over this many sites in this thread to start with "investigation".

Take a rest - then try to remember as good as you can what happened and what you did, step by step,
collect each and every piece of the puzzle, that could anyhow help in your case.

Bring it to a short but detailed list, (including dates, times or timeframes, what exactly you have done etc)
in chronological order to have a overview for yourself - and those that want to help you.

As soon as you / we have this list, it would be much easier to check out for possible solutions in track & approving, with your help.
Thats the only "advice" I could give for now.

For example, it is confusing what happend to your laptop since then or if you already tried to find / contact the guy that sold you this BTC,
just to verify you had this amount, for example. See my questions before.

I agree with this. Compile everything you know about what happened in to one chronological list.

The interesting part will come when Davout is presented evidence of your funds. But first we need to cut through all bs and make sure these guys who are doing the blockchain analysis can get as much info as possible.

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Phinn, you've got a lot of detectives ready to help you to establish the truth, but they need facts.

Help them to help you.

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Quote from: Nicolas Dorier on June 13, 2014, 10:50:46 AM

That's what I said, I disagree with you, we're all the same... Angry

I am not fat as karpeles is. I don't want to pierce a second buthole to anyone as davout would like ...

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Quote from: madmat on June 13, 2014, 08:06:57 AM

Quote from: Nicolas Dorier on June 13, 2014, 06:21:35 AM

Quote from: guigui371 on June 13, 2014, 06:16:45 AM

i want to point out that at the begining of the thread a lot of commente were against frenchies and now the 2-3 guys who are helping Bruno are FRENCH !!

what an irony

French always agree to disagree... That's why you always have the two extremes with constant fight between each others :p

I made some comments agains french at the beginning, but it was ironic, i am french too.I just can't understand people who do such stupid generalities about people.

That's what I said, I disagree with you, we're all the same... Angry

Quote from: BlueBitAUT on June 13, 2014, 10:31:23 AM

Phinn,

I can understand you might be exhausted etc.
But I also think you need to get the facts together and answer to asked questions, if you're looking for help.
I am pretty sure no one wants to collect all "maybes, im not sures, i can't tells" from all over this many sites in this thread to start with "investigation".

Take a rest - then try to remember as good as you can what happened and what you did, step by step,
collect each and every piece of the puzzle, that could anyhow help in your case.

Bring it to a short but detailed list, (including dates, times or timeframes, what exactly you have done etc)
in chronological order to have a overview for yourself - and those that want to help you.

As soon as you / we have this list, it would be much easier to check out for possible solutions in track & approving, with your help.
Thats the only "advice" I could give for now.

For example, it is confusing what happend to your laptop since then or if you already tried to find / contact the guy that sold you this BTC,
just to verify you had this amount, for example. See my questions before.

+1
We need a precise list, fluff extracted, a developer is like a computer, give us a formatted list of what you know about each transfer, amount, time span.
We need this list, we are too lazy to make archeology in such gang bang of comments.
Everything in one simple list. The stupider it is, the better.

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