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newbie
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January 30, 2018, 03:40:17 PM

I don't think it is in any sense worth buying at this point in time for a March 2018 order....(or so I think I read)

(bad time for me to have bought 5 siacoin miners from obelisk...don't ya think? ) FML Sad


That's even worse buthurt situation u got into.... But that's cryptouniverse ... today u happy tomorrow not ...
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Clueless!
January 30, 2018, 03:09:11 PM
It look like the price is now down to $980.

https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020180129095202674bwQAJFdr06CB


Considering the difficulty rise so far, does it still make sense to buy?

https://explorer.siahub.info/mining-metrics



I don't think it is in any sense worth buying at this point in time for a March 2018 order....(or so I think I read)

(bad time for me to have bought 5 siacoin miners from obelisk...don't ya think? ) FML Sad

jr. member
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January 30, 2018, 02:59:15 PM
It look like the price is now down to $980.

https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020180129095202674bwQAJFdr06CB


Considering the difficulty rise so far, does it still make sense to buy?

https://explorer.siahub.info/mining-metrics

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January 30, 2018, 02:54:56 PM
the new batch is presented on Bitmain.com. the A3 is now at 1059$. so god luck to ressell yours more than this lol
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Clueless!
January 30, 2018, 02:40:19 PM
If from my understanding a3’s bought now arrive March 2018?
newbie
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January 30, 2018, 02:18:23 PM

I agree $30 is not bad.

We are the worst block time territory. I believe each miner is making 40 sc an hour. Around 950 sc a day. If hash rate stays at 8000 TB until batch 2 is online, expect to make 2000 - 2500 a day once block times come back to normal which will be a week or 2  from now I guess. Just hang in there

U guess but don't know and that's the frightening part in all that. I thought shitmain is going to release 2000 units 3000 max but 7500 units killed our profits totally. They just turned first batch to ROI itself and and heaters sold. Just deal with this Sad

Can you imagine why they haven't posted anything about second batch on FB or other social media? Cuz us, the unhappy customers would be screaming in there for profit and they just avoided that. There's a pile of clever shitheads in that company. Now we need to focus how to fuck them totally!

Don't ask me are me buthurt or not Cheesy
newbie
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January 30, 2018, 12:56:05 PM
OK, so after reading all of the last bunch of pages..  I guess it was a good idea that I swapped the A3 I had for two S9's?
Considering that they are 980 USD now and profitability went down so drastic.

So on siamining.com it shows 1.35 SC per GH/day.   = 1100  x .04 cents = 44.01 per day.    Two S9's make about that too I guess :-)

And that profit level will drop even more.  It is however not dropping as fast as the first couple days. WOW.  I knew it would happen, but I didn't think it was going to be that quick.  

Be happy though, as long as you are higher than 20 dollars like an S9 is bringing in, you are still ahead of the game.  That is 0.7 SC per GH/Day.

Or hold onto your SC and become a millionaire when its worth more than 4 cents.

I am so glad I am out!  Learnt a lot!

Foe next 45 days S9 makes $15.00 p/d versus A3 at $50.00 per day.

lol thats what I'm trying to tell him , I have a bunch of s9s and difficulty went up a ton in jan they are making half what the made back in early jan lool

S9 might be better in the long run after the march batch of A3 is released but for now its better to have 1 A3 than two s9 lol

Can you guys show me how your A3 does $50 a day?  I will look right now and get REAL numbers as I write this post.

From siamining.com
Hash Price Report
The last block was at height 139,794. The current block reward is 160,205 SC. Based on this and on the current difficulty, miners are being paid 0.0133 SC/TH, which corresponds to about 1.15 SC/day per GH/s

1.15 * 815 = 937.25      * .04 ( Cents)   37.49  

37.49 in bitcoin at 11000 BTC = .0034 BTC per day
I am doing .0021 per day per S9 X 2 for the trade i did = .0042 BTC per day for 2  S9

YES 1 A3 makes more than 1 S9  but for how long.  That rate of decay on the 1.15 SC per GH/Day was ALOT higher only a few days before.  The rate of decay has slowed, and will dropp more when next batch is online.  In the interm of two weeks  Assumed average of 30 per day after decay rate factored in is only a mere 10 dollars per day more than the S9.   14 days X 10 dollars is 140 dollars. YES more.  But this will drop even more SOON.  It was the best decision to drop the A3. I did it soon enough there was beleife that the A3 would be performing better than it was.

If it was so good, then why all of the sudden did so many come up for sale on the local classifieds?  They are only 980 at bitmain now.

If it made 50 a day NOW, you would have an agrument.  Redo your math and see what you are really making.  YES I know SC price can go up, and it did for a bit while network hasrate looked like it leveled off, then network hashrate went back up a bit, and price fell.  This means uncertanty. It would of been ok if there was no annoucement of the batch 2 at such a low price.

Besides I made 550 dollars the couple days that I had the A3 before it was gone.  This is about 14 days at the current profitibility.
I wish you guys luck on it, I was hopeful too, I knew the risks, and the rate of drop in the profit was the key indicator to get out.  This was backed with the Batch 2 release at the 980 price.



Before you start talking in dollars, you have to realize the whole market is in the gutter right now.  You could buy 3 1080tis for the price of the A3 and be making under $20 a day.  You need to set your expectations.  Profitability on every single algorithm is cut almost in half right now.  Anyone thinking they were going to buy an A3 and make 400 bucks a day for more than a few days was living a pipe dream.  Lets also not forget that BCH has lost value since this sale, so you literally would have lost money hodling.  $30 a day in the current market is not bad.

I agree $30 is not bad.

We are the worst block time territory. I belive each miner is making 40 sc an hour. Around 950 sc a day. If hash rate stays at 8000 TB until batch 2 is online, expect to make 2000 - 2500 a day once block times come back to normal which will be a week or 2  from now I guess. Just hang in there
newbie
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January 30, 2018, 12:51:34 PM
first time ever diff is going down???
https://siamining.com/stats

Diff is supposed to go down to adjust to 10 min block time

I have no idea why hash rate would go down from 8400 to 7900. Bitmain testing batch 2?
I could make a guess that they put a lot of units online over the weekend for testing. There would be no other reason why the difficulty would keep climbing over late Saturday and all of Sunday. The last of the first batch shipments landed at peoples doors on Friday. Even if a handful were Saturday, no way that justified the levels of difficulty increase that we saw over the weekend. It was parabolic.

Well, Friday deliveries can be powered up on Sunday Smiley
newbie
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January 30, 2018, 12:36:11 PM
Made $1000 mining and then sold for $4700.

$5700 - $2700 (Incl shipping = $3000 Profit. Shrug
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Good job... Where did you find your buyer ? I need some help in selling my A3 as well. Thanks.
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January 30, 2018, 12:06:48 PM
OK, so after reading all of the last bunch of pages..  I guess it was a good idea that I swapped the A3 I had for two S9's?
Considering that they are 980 USD now and profitability went down so drastic.

So on siamining.com it shows 1.35 SC per GH/day.   = 1100  x .04 cents = 44.01 per day.    Two S9's make about that too I guess :-)

And that profit level will drop even more.  It is however not dropping as fast as the first couple days. WOW.  I knew it would happen, but I didn't think it was going to be that quick.  

Be happy though, as long as you are higher than 20 dollars like an S9 is bringing in, you are still ahead of the game.  That is 0.7 SC per GH/Day.

Or hold onto your SC and become a millionaire when its worth more than 4 cents.

I am so glad I am out!  Learnt a lot!

Foe next 45 days S9 makes $15.00 p/d versus A3 at $50.00 per day.

lol thats what I'm trying to tell him , I have a bunch of s9s and difficulty went up a ton in jan they are making half what the made back in early jan lool

S9 might be better in the long run after the march batch of A3 is released but for now its better to have 1 A3 than two s9 lol

Can you guys show me how your A3 does $50 a day?  I will look right now and get REAL numbers as I write this post.

From siamining.com
Hash Price Report
The last block was at height 139,794. The current block reward is 160,205 SC. Based on this and on the current difficulty, miners are being paid 0.0133 SC/TH, which corresponds to about 1.15 SC/day per GH/s

1.15 * 815 = 937.25      * .04 ( Cents)   37.49  

37.49 in bitcoin at 11000 BTC = .0034 BTC per day
I am doing .0021 per day per S9 X 2 for the trade i did = .0042 BTC per day for 2  S9

YES 1 A3 makes more than 1 S9  but for how long.  That rate of decay on the 1.15 SC per GH/Day was ALOT higher only a few days before.  The rate of decay has slowed, and will dropp more when next batch is online.  In the interm of two weeks  Assumed average of 30 per day after decay rate factored in is only a mere 10 dollars per day more than the S9.   14 days X 10 dollars is 140 dollars. YES more.  But this will drop even more SOON.  It was the best decision to drop the A3. I did it soon enough there was beleife that the A3 would be performing better than it was.

If it was so good, then why all of the sudden did so many come up for sale on the local classifieds?  They are only 980 at bitmain now.

If it made 50 a day NOW, you would have an agrument.  Redo your math and see what you are really making.  YES I know SC price can go up, and it did for a bit while network hasrate looked like it leveled off, then network hashrate went back up a bit, and price fell.  This means uncertanty. It would of been ok if there was no annoucement of the batch 2 at such a low price.

Besides I made 550 dollars the couple days that I had the A3 before it was gone.  This is about 14 days at the current profitibility.
I wish you guys luck on it, I was hopeful too, I knew the risks, and the rate of drop in the profit was the key indicator to get out.  This was backed with the Batch 2 release at the 980 price.



Before you start talking in dollars, you have to realize the whole market is in the gutter right now.  You could buy 3 1080tis for the price of the A3 and be making under $20 a day.  You need to set your expectations.  Profitability on every single algorithm is cut almost in half right now.  Anyone thinking they were going to buy an A3 and make 400 bucks a day for more than a few days was living a pipe dream.  Lets also not forget that BCH has lost value since this sale, so you literally would have lost money hodling.  $30 a day in the current market is not bad.
sr. member
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January 30, 2018, 11:30:02 AM
Made $1000 mining and then sold for $4700.

$5700 - $2700 (Incl shipping = $3000 Profit. Shrug
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January 30, 2018, 10:24:10 AM
first time ever diff is going down???
https://siamining.com/stats

Diff is supposed to go down to adjust to 10 min block time

I have no idea why hash rate would go down from 8400 to 7900. Bitmain testing batch 2?
I could make a guess that they put a lot of units online over the weekend for testing. There would be no other reason why the difficulty would keep climbing over late Saturday and all of Sunday. The last of the first batch shipments landed at peoples doors on Friday. Even if a handful were Saturday, no way that justified the levels of difficulty increase that we saw over the weekend. It was parabolic.
That does sound like a reasonable explanation... We're below 1000 Sia a day now... When I started it last Wednesday we were at ~4k/day. Fortunately I just gambled on a single A3 for fun ;-)

edit:
All this just makes me love my Baikal Giant more... Cheap, low power and multi-algo!
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January 30, 2018, 09:57:40 AM
first time ever diff is going down???
https://siamining.com/stats

Diff is supposed to go down to adjust to 10 min block time

I have no idea why hash rate would go down from 8400 to 7900. Bitmain testing batch 2?
I could make a guess that they put a lot of units online over the weekend for testing. There would be no other reason why the difficulty would keep climbing over late Saturday and all of Sunday. The last of the first batch shipments landed at peoples doors on Friday. Even if a handful were Saturday, no way that justified the levels of difficulty increase that we saw over the weekend. It was parabolic.
newbie
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January 30, 2018, 09:25:19 AM
I actually think it's doing pretty well. Not looking at present value, hoping on mining and hodling the coins at the moment.
why you says this hodling? in my home this means such sickness act. if you has touching with pig peenis you hodling.

such a troll Cheesy lol
newbie
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January 30, 2018, 09:01:08 AM
I actually think it's doing pretty well. Not looking at present value, hoping on mining and hodling the coins at the moment.
why you says this hodling? in my home this means such sickness act. if you has touching with pig peenis you hodling.
member
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January 30, 2018, 08:38:09 AM
mainboard easy die, i have 2 x A3, but after 3 day, one A3 die, very sad
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January 30, 2018, 08:34:17 AM
What is current profitability for A3/24h? 40 usd? This will be ever worst situation than D3, only small number of miners which get A3 7 days ago will ROI fast.
newbie
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January 30, 2018, 04:01:09 AM
I actually think it's doing pretty well. Not looking at present value, hoping on mining and hodling the coins at the moment.
newbie
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January 30, 2018, 03:37:42 AM
So I have a board at 75 degrees running 30% underclocked in a subzero air environment. I am desperately seeking firmware updates!

Why are you underclocking even though you're running in a sub-zero environment? Squeeze the max out of your A3 now before difficulty sky rockets.

Because running it underclocked is better than running it at 0? Chip temps on one board exceeded 100 degrees and the pcb was around 82 degrees. Auto shutoff occurred.
As much as I would like to run it into the ground, it has to actually function.
Most likely it is heatsinks not attached properly or something with airflow, as it seems board 3 is 15 degrees hotter than the other 2.

this guy also has the same issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpPPaxuMYio
jr. member
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January 30, 2018, 03:20:34 AM
OK, so after reading all of the last bunch of pages..  I guess it was a good idea that I swapped the A3 I had for two S9's?
Considering that they are 980 USD now and profitability went down so drastic.

So on siamining.com it shows 1.35 SC per GH/day.   = 1100  x .04 cents = 44.01 per day.    Two S9's make about that too I guess :-)

And that profit level will drop even more.  It is however not dropping as fast as the first couple days. WOW.  I knew it would happen, but I didn't think it was going to be that quick.  

Be happy though, as long as you are higher than 20 dollars like an S9 is bringing in, you are still ahead of the game.  That is 0.7 SC per GH/Day.

Or hold onto your SC and become a millionaire when its worth more than 4 cents.

I am so glad I am out!  Learnt a lot!

Foe next 45 days S9 makes $15.00 p/d versus A3 at $50.00 per day.

lol thats what I'm trying to tell him , I have a bunch of s9s and difficulty went up a ton in jan they are making half what the made back in early jan lool

S9 might be better in the long run after the march batch of A3 is released but for now its better to have 1 A3 than two s9 lol

Can you guys show me how your A3 does $50 a day?  I will look right now and get REAL numbers as I write this post.

From siamining.com
Hash Price Report
The last block was at height 139,794. The current block reward is 160,205 SC. Based on this and on the current difficulty, miners are being paid 0.0133 SC/TH, which corresponds to about 1.15 SC/day per GH/s

1.15 * 815 = 937.25      * .04 ( Cents)   37.49  

37.49 in bitcoin at 11000 BTC = .0034 BTC per day
I am doing .0021 per day per S9 X 2 for the trade i did = .0042 BTC per day for 2  S9

YES 1 A3 makes more than 1 S9  but for how long.  That rate of decay on the 1.15 SC per GH/Day was ALOT higher only a few days before.  The rate of decay has slowed, and will dropp more when next batch is online.  In the interm of two weeks  Assumed average of 30 per day after decay rate factored in is only a mere 10 dollars per day more than the S9.   14 days X 10 dollars is 140 dollars. YES more.  But this will drop even more SOON.  It was the best decision to drop the A3. I did it soon enough there was beleife that the A3 would be performing better than it was.

If it was so good, then why all of the sudden did so many come up for sale on the local classifieds?  They are only 980 at bitmain now.

If it made 50 a day NOW, you would have an agrument.  Redo your math and see what you are really making.  YES I know SC price can go up, and it did for a bit while network hasrate looked like it leveled off, then network hashrate went back up a bit, and price fell.  This means uncertanty. It would of been ok if there was no annoucement of the batch 2 at such a low price.

Besides I made 550 dollars the couple days that I had the A3 before it was gone.  This is about 14 days at the current profitibility.
I wish you guys luck on it, I was hopeful too, I knew the risks, and the rate of drop in the profit was the key indicator to get out.  This was backed with the Batch 2 release at the 980 price.
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