I like the enthusiasm for taking down the enemy but this makes people think NO2X is actually a threat to Bitcoin but in reality it's just a weak attack against the network and look how BTC is responding.
Another signature spammer. Seriously?
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Another signature spammer. Seriously?
I like the enthusiasm for taking down the enemy but this makes people think NO2X is actually a threat to Bitcoin but in reality it's just a weak attack against the network and look how BTC is responding.
I'm wondering whether or not you realize that Bitcoin per the core roadmap isn't even going to be peer to peer money any more , by design?
I'm also wondering whether you realize that the 'computer fraud' accusations are trolling/politiking? No one has been defrauded.
And you claimed to be a computer scientist...you dont even know how to make Bitcoin mainstream while keeping the Bitcoin chain decentralised and secure as possible I'm also wondering whether you realize that the 'computer fraud' accusations are trolling/politiking? No one has been defrauded.
Realy, do you even know what blockchain is and how much potential it got? You cannot and will not move all those financial traffic into 1 block..even Roger knows that.
Coffee purchases on chain are a no brainer, they should not be there if we have to sacrifice intrinsic values for them to be there. Anyone claiming otherwise is a baboon or paid agent trying to disrupt Bitcoin (see NSA Operation Orchestra). 
I'm wondering whether or not you realize that Bitcoin per the core roadmap isn't even going to be peer to peer money any more , by design?
I'm also wondering whether you realize that the 'computer fraud' accusations are trolling/politiking? No one has been defrauded.
I'm also wondering whether you realize that the 'computer fraud' accusations are trolling/politiking? No one has been defrauded.
Bitcoin will always be p2p. Strange, few months ago Roger Ver claimed that he wanted those 2 layers on his own Bcash chain.. So youre bugged and oh so 'precious' Bcash will also transform into a 'settlement' layer(s).
Jeff committed computer fraud because you cannot add stuff into an open-source project by youre own
And you claimed to be a computer scientist...you dont even know how to make Bitcoin mainstream while keeping the Bitcoin chain decentralised and secure as possible
Realy, do you even know what blockchain is and how much potential it got? You cannot and will not move all those financial traffic into 1 block..even Roger knows that.
You should support Core's roadmap if you want to see this fiat system getting disrupted by Bitcoin!
I find it both funny, and as you put it, pathetic when they mention something like a "dev team" (a person did this a few posts back). There is no development team for Bcash, and there is no development team for Bitcoin2x. They are just copy/pasting Core's work, sometimes even stealing it by removing copyright. Of course /r/btc condones the latter behavior.
You mean Jeff garzik? That guy copy/pasted all core's work and give it a twist on it. B..but that 'twist' was kinda bugged and Jeff coudn't fix it on his own so 2 Core devs stepped in order to fix it.
Jeff tryed to hide his 2x nodes and later one of his buds claimed that nodes are an attack on the network. WTF
I see so many fails from Jeff... it's irresponsible to let him control a 90B cryptocurrency by his own. No wonder why this NYA is falling apart 2x will trigger massive centralisation.
And Bcash...well that is only a short-term profit mechanism for the chinese mining cartel ore better said there is only 1 miner. In order to fix EDA they need a hard fork that brings a lot of other problems with it.
Those poor souls buying Bcash dont even realize how screwed they are, they should start asking question to Roger why he lied to them.
Seoul Bitcoin Meetup(1600 member) on Segwit2x;
https://medium.com/@seoulbitcoin/statement-on-segwit2x-161db1ad1976
Spoiler; #no2x
https://medium.com/@seoulbitcoin/statement-on-segwit2x-161db1ad1976
Spoiler; #no2x
With any section of your list core has lost more and more support - and pls add the NYA list. Could you see now where the issue might be?
I do not wonder that we see so much shouting of the self isolated here / twitter - but this is only a few .
Bitcointalk seems to be the last place to discuss this controversial but I guess we just better take our popcorn.
I do not wonder that we see so much shouting of the self isolated here / twitter - but this is only a few .
Bitcointalk seems to be the last place to discuss this controversial but I guess we just better take our popcorn.
Core didn't lost any support, if so the outcome would be much different as we see today. Youre pessimism is not a way to excuse youreself
NYA is just a smokescreen to save face for future agreements.. you just trapped it by youre own ignorance. It's already falling apart bit by bit incl. future's on Finex.
Go take youre popcorn to r/btc then
With any section of your list core has lost more and more support - and pls add the NYA list. Could you see now where the issue might be?
The actual users, and with this I mean excluding shills hired by Ver, Jihan, NSA and similar, are in a supermajority support of Bitcoin Core and they are not going anywhere. The baboon-like educated suits can piss off. 
Nope, a very small minority that thought big blocks were important, yet were proven wrong by their failed shitcoin called Bcash, are rooting for Segwit2x.
It's always the same with those rats..r/btc bigblockers are all rats. They jump from a sinking ship to another sinking ship.
They shit on Bitcoin while XT was the best thing ever..
They shit on Bitcoin while Classic was the best thing ever..
They shit on Bitcoin while BU was the best thing ever..
They shit on Bitcoin while NChain was the greatest thing ever..
Few months ago Bitcoin ABC was the greatest thing ever while shitting on Bitcoin..
Now those rats shitting on Bitcoin while Bcash is the greatest thing ever while it's bugged. Those noobs actually believes people will create financial assets on there bugged code.
Pathetic!
With any section of your list core has lost more and more support - and pls add the NYA list. Could you see now where the issue might be?
I do not wonder that we see so much shouting of the self isolated here / twitter - but this is only a few .
Bitcointalk seems to be the last place to discuss this controversial but I guess we just better take our popcorn.
Nope, a very small minority that thought big blocks were important, yet were proven wrong by their failed shitcoin called Bcash, are rooting for Segwit2x.
It's always the same with those rats..r/btc bigblockers are all rats. They jump from a sinking ship to another sinking ship.Nope, a very small minority that thought big blocks were important, yet were proven wrong by their failed shitcoin called Bcash, are rooting for Segwit2x.
It's always the same with those rats..r/btc bigblockers are all rats. They jump from a sinking ship to another sinking ship.
They shit on Bitcoin while XT was the best thing ever..
They shit on Bitcoin while Classic was the best thing ever..
They shit on Bitcoin while BU was the best thing ever..
They shit on Bitcoin while NChain was the greatest thing ever..
Few months ago Bitcoin ABC was the greatest thing ever while shitting on Bitcoin..
Now those rats shitting on Bitcoin while Bcash is the greatest thing ever while it's bugged. Those noobs actually believes people will create financial assets on there bugged code.
And the mother of all rats is called Roger Ver, the biggest scumbag in the Bitcoin community.
Pathetic!
Bitmex:
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It is our understanding that the SegWit2x proposal does not include two way transaction replay protection, enabled by default. Therefore BitMEX will not be able to support SegWit2x.
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BitMEX considers any and all contentious hardfork tokens as altcoins. The .BXBT and .BXBTJPY indices will remain unchanged and will not include B2X.
https://blog.bitmex.com/policy-on-bitcoin-hard-forks-update/ Wrong. Contentious attempt to alter existing rules -> you're an altcoin by default. Core does not dictate what is or isn't Bitcoin, and their client banning or not banning some bits does not determine anything either. BTC1 nodes are parasites that will create a very disruptive and damaging network. I've banned all known IPs, but now they've started to cover up that they are actually btc1 nodes by appearing to be the reference client. Garzik is a corrupt and shady individual that can't be trusted anymore.
Thank you for answering, but
What kind of act to alter existing rules? Please be specific about they are breaking the rules. I would like to know more about that.
What kind of disruptive and damaging? As I know, btc1 nodes has been added to the main GitHub and everyone could test it.
Then, there will be testnet before it's launched. Look at their support: over 92% https://coin.dance/blocks
As long as core developers and 2x devs follow the consensus, it's fine I guess.
Only if you could read...
“That’s not Bitcoin, this is Bitcoin.” > https://medium.com/@StopAndDecrypt/thats-not-bitcoin-this-is-bitcoin-95f05a6fd6c2
Don’t Be On The Wrong Side of Bitcoin History > https://medium.com/@Austerity_Sucks/open-letter-to-segwit2x-supporters-dont-be-on-the-wrong-side-of-bitcoin-history-acef69416422
Segwit2x the Broken Agreement > https://medium.com/@WhalePanda/segwit2x-the-broken-agreement-e9035a453c05
My Thoughts on Your Thoughts(Open Letter to Shapeshift's Founder) > https://medium.com/@thepiratewhocantbenamed/my-thoughts-on-your-thoughts-17474d800dda
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Here is the companies who said "YES" to 2x;
1Hash (China)
Abra (United States)
ANX (Hong Kong)
Bitangel.com /Chandler Guo (China)
BitClub Network (Hong Kong)
Bitcoin.com (St. Kitts & Nevis)
Bitex (Argentina)
bitFlyer (Japan)
Bitfury (United States)
Bitmain (China)
BitPay (United States)
BitPesa (Kenya)
BitOasis (United Arab Emirates)
Bitso (Mexico)
Bitwala (Germany)
Bixin.com (China)
Blockchain (UK)
Bloq (United States)
btc.com (China)
BTC.TOP (China)
BTER.com (China)
Circle (United States)
Civic (United States)
Coinbase (United States)
Coins.ph (Phillipines)
Decentral (Canada)
Digital Currency Group (United States)
Filament (United States)
Genesis Global Trading (United States)
Genesis Mining (Hong Kong)
GoCoin (Isle of Man)
Grayscale Investments (United States)
Jaxx (Canada)
Korbit (South Korea)
Luno (Singapore)
MONI (Finland)
Netki (United States)
OB1 (United States)
Purse (United States)
Ripio (Argentina)
Safello (Sweden)
SFOX (United States)
ShapeShift (Switzerland)
surBTC (Chile)
Unocoin (India)
Veem (United States)
Xapo (United States)
Yours (United States)
....snip.....
Here is the companies who said "YES" to 2x;
1Hash (China)
Abra (United States)
ANX (Hong Kong)
Bitangel.com /Chandler Guo (China)
BitClub Network (Hong Kong)
Bitcoin.com (St. Kitts & Nevis)
Bitex (Argentina)
bitFlyer (Japan)
Bitfury (United States)
Bitmain (China)
BitPay (United States)
BitPesa (Kenya)
BitOasis (United Arab Emirates)
Bitso (Mexico)
Bitwala (Germany)
Bixin.com (China)
Blockchain (UK)
Bloq (United States)
btc.com (China)
BTC.TOP (China)
BTER.com (China)
Circle (United States)
Civic (United States)
Coinbase (United States)
Coins.ph (Phillipines)
Decentral (Canada)
Digital Currency Group (United States)
Filament (United States)
Genesis Global Trading (United States)
Genesis Mining (Hong Kong)
GoCoin (Isle of Man)
Grayscale Investments (United States)
Jaxx (Canada)
Korbit (South Korea)
Luno (Singapore)
MONI (Finland)
Netki (United States)
OB1 (United States)
Purse (United States)
Ripio (Argentina)
Safello (Sweden)
SFOX (United States)
ShapeShift (Switzerland)
surBTC (Chile)
Unocoin (India)
Veem (United States)
Xapo (United States)
Yours (United States)
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I don't see the wallet Exodus on the list.... I wonder where their alignment lies -- segwit or 2x?
First of, why are you making assumptions and statements when you clearly are not informed/educated about most of these issues? Signature spam?
2) Falsely labeling itself as Bitcoin, when 2x is an altcoin.
3) Damage caused by a combination of 1 and 2.
"Consensus and support of 2x":
https://twitter.com/BitcoinErrorLog/status/918676222200102913
What kind of act to alter existing rules?
1 MB block size limit, or 4 MB maximum with Segwit is a existing consensus rule. Any hard fork = change to the existing rules.What kind of disruptive and damaging?
1) No viable replay protection.2) Falsely labeling itself as Bitcoin, when 2x is an altcoin.
3) Damage caused by a combination of 1 and 2.
As I know, btc1 nodes has been added to the main GitHub and everyone could test it.
"Main GitHub"? No.Look at their support: over 92% https://coin.dance/blocks
Wrong. Those are miners signalling support in their Coinbase. If you look at miners as community members, they and all the other support that 2x might have doesn't even come down to 5%.As long as core developers and 2x devs follow the consensus, it's fine I guess.
The Core developers absolutely, unanimously (unless I've missed someone's statement), reject the cancer that is 2x. "Consensus and support of 2x":
https://twitter.com/BitcoinErrorLog/status/918676222200102913
Wrong. Contentious attempt to alter existing rules -> you're an altcoin by default. Core does not dictate what is or isn't Bitcoin, and their client banning or not banning some bits does not determine anything either. BTC1 nodes are parasites that will create a very disruptive and damaging network. I've banned all known IPs, but now they've started to cover up that they are actually btc1 nodes by appearing to be the reference client. Garzik is a corrupt and shady individual that can't be trusted anymore.
Thank you for answering, but
What kind of act to alter existing rules? Please be specific about they are breaking the rules. I would like to know more about that.
What kind of disruptive and damaging? As I know, btc1 nodes has been added to the main GitHub and everyone could test it.
Then, there will be testnet before it's launched. Look at their support: over 92% https://coin.dance/blocks
As long as core developers and 2x devs follow the consensus, it's fine I guess.
Marked this one, franky1 was right.
No, franky1 is wrong as usual.I'm a core developers fan, like 1Mb blocksize and segwit implementation even though most platforms/wallets still not support it.
The 1 MB block size limit was put in place, and is in place for a reason. SegWit is a much better way of doing transactions, and if you have complains about "congestion" or "fees" blame those advertising a block size increasing but lacking SW support on their platform.But, it's true about core developers were the one who push the limit by reject btc1 nodes, taken some precautions steps to ensure 2x become another altcoin, it's against the rule of consensus, right?
Wrong. Contentious attempt to alter existing rules -> you're an altcoin by default. Core does not dictate what is or isn't Bitcoin, and their client banning or not banning some bits does not determine anything either. BTC1 nodes are parasites that will create a very disruptive and damaging network. I've banned all known IPs, but now they've started to cover up that they are actually btc1 nodes by appearing to be the reference client. Garzik is a corrupt and shady individual that can't be trusted anymore. They are getting nasty and nasty everyday. Today 2x devs just merged the ability for segwit2x to disguise itself to not get banned by 0.15 nodes; https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/commit/28ebbdb1f4ab632a1500b2c412a157839608fed0
lol
might be worth you researching and realising the term consensus
btc1 wants to use consensus so that the community choose..
its core that want to prevent community choice by CORE.. yes CORE banning nodes and avoiding consensus forming a honest decision on what the community want.
again i state it a different way. CORE are the ones creating the altcoin by preventing consensus from finding a single route based on bitcoins built in decentralised decision making process known as consensus(orphaning mechanism)/b]
please learn consensus and realise CORE are avoiding bitcoins built in mechanisms..
this means core are the nasty ones by becoming the centralised decision makers.
really people.. wake up
Marked this one, franky1 was right.
I'm a core developers fan, like 1Mb blocksize and segwit implementation even though most platforms/wallets still not support it.
But, it's true about core developers were the one who push the limit by reject btc1 nodes, taken some precautions steps to ensure 2x become another altcoin, it's against the rule of consensus, right?
I'm partial to the idea that miners are part of the community, and I think that some of the major miners (like Bitfury, F2Pool) are fairly in touch with the userbase and are apparently concerned about what they want.
DooMAD is acting like a individual of justice, but he's just being an idiot with his fallacies. He made a very bad generalization about the miners when responding to me. Bitfury, F2Pool and Slush are some of the nice ones that I could list now. The F2Pool owner tends to troll for comedy, and Slush has very nice voting implements and very healthy views about Bitcoin. I don't feel the same sense of community from miners like Bitmain. Jihan Wu spends his time/energy attacking Core and pumping Bitcoin Cash -- the next batch of miners is only payable in Bitcoin Cash. What's that about?
BTC.TOP, also known as Bitmain proxy, threatened to undercut the F2Pool owner unless he continues to support 2x. Then DooMAD comes in and claims they are "supposedly" evil, according to me. What a joke. Don't even get me started on the "Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin" propaganda from Roger and Jihan.Buying mining equipment is supposed to be a way to invest in BTC while supporting the network; it shouldn't be an avenue to get people to prop up the BCH price for Bitmain.
Mining centralization is extremely dangerous, and we've observed this in 2017. I can't wait for the day that Russia and that Japan GMO obliterates Jihan. Quote
If a select group of CEOs and investors, no matter how benevolent their intentions, can unilaterally make decisions about the consensus rules without public comment and force these changes upon the network regardless of overall consensus, then Bitcoin will have lost the properties that make it valuable in the first place.
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