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STOP SNITCHIN'

Quote from: bitcub on October 04, 2017, 05:42:48 PM

2x update without a replay protection is no joke. Hope someone will balls with strong market influence standup? Somebody save bitcoin. Our dreams will be ruin by these selfish investors who wants to hardfork btc.

There will at least be opt-in replay protection. Basically, for a transaction to be valid on the legacy chain but invalid on the Segwit2x chain, users need to include an output in their transaction to this address: 3Bit1xA4apyzgmFNT2k8Pvnd6zb6TnwcTi

Doing so will therefore split your legacy coins from your Segwit2x coins. Your legacy coins will be in the new address, your Segwit2x coins will remain in the old address (because the splitting transaction is invalid on Segwit2x chain).

Quote from: Jimmy Song

You will want to move your Legacy coins first to new addresses (your Legacy wallet), but each of these transactions will have to send a small amount to 3Bit1xA4apyzgmFNT2k8Pvnd6zb6TnwcTi. If you don’t care much about privacy, you can make one giant transaction that sends all your current bitcoins to another address or set of addresses. Just make sure a small amount is sent to 3Bit1xA4apyzgmFNT2k8Pvnd6zb6TnwcTi.

After that, you can send your 2x coins to different addresses and that would be your 2x wallet.

https://bitcointechtalk.com/how-segwit2x-replay-protection-works-1a5e41767103

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Quote from: gentlemand on October 04, 2017, 04:40:25 PM

Even if a large amount of noise is purely down to the usual suspects, the amount of people objecting to this can't be ignored. I don't see how they can carry on with this plan when there's so much screeching.

Their stated aim was to keep everyone happy, even though it was clear swathes of people weren't initially consulted, but that's now definitively in the crapper.

The bigger issue: the community is completely fractured and I feel that the threatened BIP148 split brought everything to a head. It opened Pandora's box. The extreme side of the small blocker camp forced the community to decide between seeing them permanently fork off, or going along with their changes to the consensus rules.

Miners/industry/some users are now doing the same exact thing with Segwit2x: "permanent split or implement our consensus changes." Is anyone really surprised by this after the August drama?

You can put me squarely in the "neutral/status quo" camp. The NO2X camp absolutely does not speak for me, and as someone pointed out, they actively attacked my interests with the fork drama a couple months back. (Do you have any idea how many top buyers they probably got to sell below $2000 based on their forking threats and the resulting uncertainty?)

The silent majority is silent. Stop trying to speak for us, NO2X. Your Twitter brigade doesn't represent millions of Bitcoin users.

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Quote from: Variogam on October 04, 2017, 09:50:26 AM

Quote from: rifiuti on October 04, 2017, 09:06:16 AM

1. The bold ones are = Wallets, Exchanges. Start with getting your bitcoins out of these sites and never use them again. Send them an email and tell them leave the Segwit2x agreement.

Why should they leave the Segwit2x agreement when you guys wont be using them again anyway? Thats the problem with you guys, you dont follow even simple logic. You just prove one thing though: it is better to ignore the brigading and manipulation.

Yeah, I'm really tired of the BIP148/NO2X crowd and I sort of wish at this point that they forked off with Luke 2 months ago and left the rest of us alone. They act like they own Bitcoin because of a couple-thousand-strong Twitter bubble.

They said BIP148 "is Bitcoin" because "Twitter consensus." And they pushed us to the brink of a permanent split so they could force hasty consensus change. That was a straight-up attack on my interests as long term holder. They are dead to me. They are attackers in my eyes. Just like the Segwit2x guys.

Fuck 2X and fuck NO2X. Those who promoted BIP148 (i.e. basically everyone backing NO2X) are just forkers to me. Forkers can fuck off.

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2x update without a replay protection is no joke. Hope someone will balls with strong market influence standup? Somebody save bitcoin. Our dreams will be ruin by these selfish investors who wants to hardfork btc.

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Quote from: bitcoinvestor on October 04, 2017, 05:08:11 PM

I am not a technical boys but I see segwit2x come from the same parties as BCH hardfork like Xapo and friends, they fail in bch hardfork and try to attack the second chance, will bitcoin collapse? If not the bitcoin price will jump and there will be the third attack.

people and free market will decide, whether core or 2x who will have more supporter. just see and wait how all of this will become.
And when i say about supporter i mean individual bitcoin user, not monopolist corporates. people will choose.
Users here want 2x success not bcause they love it but because they want free money, just like previous fork, they dump free money for btc

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Quote from: bitcoinvestor on October 04, 2017, 05:08:11 PM

Quote from: rifiuti on October 04, 2017, 04:34:58 PM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on October 04, 2017, 03:40:35 PM

Bitcoin Cash = Bitcoin.

Segwit 1x or 2x =/= Bitcoin.

Act accordingly.

Bitcoin Cash = Bitcoin Cash(aka Altcoin aka Shitcoin)

Bitcoin = Bitcoin

I am not a technical boys but I see segwit2x come from the same parties as BCH hardfork like Xapo and friends, they fail in bch hardfork and try to attack the second chance, will bitcoin colapse? If not the bitcoin price will jump and there will be the third attack.

In a way, that's a good thing. It shows that how valuable the Bitcoin is. On the other hand this time attack is more sophisticated. It gets supports from the all major players. But here is the trick;

Miners play big role in this fork. Even though 2x side claim that big majority of the hashpower will shift to 2x, that is not likely to happen because miners can't risk losing millions everyday. Look how it went with Bitcoin Cash.

Bitmain is the biggest supporter of Bitcoin Cash and they hold about %40 of the current Bitcoin hashpower. Why they are still mining Bitcoin?

Bitmain's annual revenue would shrink from 9 figures to 7-8 figures if they would have pointed their machines to Bitcoin Cash.

Also, there other big players in this game who haven't said a word about 2x;

Bitmex, Bitfinex, Bittrex, HitBTC, Poloniex, Gdax, Bitstamp. > Their 24hr volume for today is 253.266 BTC(combined).

This exchanges will also play big part in November. They usually talk and decide together. So we'll see how thing will roll at November.

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Quote from: rifiuti on October 04, 2017, 04:34:58 PM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on October 04, 2017, 03:40:35 PM

Bitcoin Cash = Bitcoin.

Segwit 1x or 2x =/= Bitcoin.

Act accordingly.

Bitcoin Cash = Bitcoin Cash(aka Altcoin aka Shitcoin)

Bitcoin = Bitcoin

I am not a technical boys but I see segwit2x come from the same parties as BCH hardfork like Xapo and friends, they fail in bch hardfork and try to attack the second chance, will bitcoin colapse? If not the bitcoin price will jump and there will be the third attack.

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Quote from: franky1 on October 04, 2017, 10:34:51 AM

if you guys have not woken up already.. its all a f**king bait and switch campaign..

the BSCartell (silbert AND blockstream) are in it together. WAKE UP

its the pretend 'choice' to make sheep think its freedom and decentralised but the whole thing is just pushing bitcoin away from satoshi's open vision and down segwit one way street of BSCartel control

either way it plays out BSCartel win and decentralisation is lost.

wake up.

BScartel are meandering dcentralisation.. into meaning purely centralised distribution. which is totally different ideals than what the ethos and reason bitcoin was invented for.

.. and yes i expect the usual propoganda crap from the bscartel shills protecting their friends

All you are is propaganda. A few beta male insults. That's it.

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I am not in favor of centralizing bitcoin. The Aug 2017 fork is enough, why do we need to ruin the btc system thru hardfork which has no replay method?
Even the core developers are not in favor of this garbage.

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Welt Am Draht

Even if a large amount of noise is purely down to the usual suspects, the amount of people objecting to this can't be ignored. I don't see how they can carry on with this plan when there's so much screeching.

Their stated aim was to keep everyone happy, even though it was clear swathes of people weren't initially consulted, but that's now definitively in the crapper.

rifiuti

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Quote from: 25hashcoin on October 04, 2017, 03:40:35 PM

Bitcoin Cash = Bitcoin.

Segwit 1x or 2x =/= Bitcoin.

Act accordingly.

Bitcoin Cash = Bitcoin Cash(aka Altcoin aka Shitcoin)

Bitcoin = Bitcoin

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on October 04, 2017, 03:21:03 PM

Quote from: franky1 on October 04, 2017, 10:34:51 AM

if you guys have not woken up already.. its all a f**king bait and switch campaign..

the BSCartell (silbert AND blockstream) are in it together. WAKE UP

its the pretend 'choice' to make sheep think its freedom and decentralised but the whole thing is just pushing bitcoin away from satoshi's open vision and down segwit one way street of BSCartel control

either way it plays out BSCartel win and decentralisation is lost.

wake up.

BScartel are meandering dcentralisation.. into meaning purely centralised distribution. which is totally different ideals than what the ethos and reason bitcoin was invented for.

.. and yes i expect the usual propoganda crap from the bscartel shills protecting their friends

Bitcoin Cash not affected.

Jonald, fyooking great to hear you. I'm using your wallet for my BCH/real Bitcoin and watching the drama unfold. I don't even have a dog in the 2x fight, so I think I'll sip a margarita, and contemplate if I timed the BCH price dip correctly...

Franky1 still chugging along, eh? Seeing you here after all of the abuse you've taken gives me hope!

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The lobbying from the No2X camp is hilarious. They got their Segwit now they don't want the hard blockers the 2X. It is for that reason I will never support No2X and Core, they are a dishonest bunch with zero integrity. Now that November is here, they are all over Twitter and other platforms trying to lobby for support.

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Quote from: rifiuti on October 04, 2017, 02:59:21 PM

They are getting nasty and nasty everyday. Today 2x devs just merged the ability for segwit2x to disguise itself to not get banned by 0.15 nodes; https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/commit/28ebbdb1f4ab632a1500b2c412a157839608fed0

lol
might be worth you researching and realising the term consensus

btc1 wants to use consensus so that the community choose..

its core that want to prevent community choice by CORE.. yes CORE banning nodes and avoiding consensus forming a honest decision on what the community want.

again i state it a different way. CORE are the ones creating the altcoin by preventing consensus from finding a single route based on bitcoins built in decentralised decision making process known as consensus(orphaning mechanism)

please learn consensus and realise CORE are avoiding bitcoins built in mechanisms..
this means core are the nasty ones by becoming the centralised decision makers.

really people.. wake up

25hashcoin

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Bitcoin Cash = Bitcoin.

Segwit 1x or 2x =/= Bitcoin.

Act accordingly.

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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political

Quote from: franky1 on October 04, 2017, 10:34:51 AM

if you guys have not woken up already.. its all a f**king bait and switch campaign..

the BSCartell (silbert AND blockstream) are in it together. WAKE UP

its the pretend 'choice' to make sheep think its freedom and decentralised but the whole thing is just pushing bitcoin away from satoshi's open vision and down segwit one way street of BSCartel control

either way it plays out BSCartel win and decentralisation is lost.

wake up.

BScartel are meandering dcentralisation.. into meaning purely centralised distribution. which is totally different ideals than what the ethos and reason bitcoin was invented for.

.. and yes i expect the usual propoganda crap from the bscartel shills protecting their friends

Bitcoin Cash not affected.

rifiuti

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Quote from: BrewMaster on October 04, 2017, 12:29:10 PM

Quote from: Thura on October 04, 2017, 12:10:46 PM

Should a bitcoin full node have a [NO2X] tag added to the User agent string (via -uacomment parameter) ?

if you run "bitcoin core" client as your full node then you are automatically saying "no 2x", there is no point in adding something extra to repeat the obvious in my opinion.

in other words /Satoshi:0.xx.x.x/ is equal to /NO2x/

They are getting nasty and nasty everyday. Today 2x devs just merged the ability for segwit2x to disguise itself to not get banned by 0.15 nodes; https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/commit/28ebbdb1f4ab632a1500b2c412a157839608fed0

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There is trouble abrewing

Quote from: Thura on October 04, 2017, 12:10:46 PM

Should a bitcoin full node have a [NO2X] tag added to the User agent string (via -uacomment parameter) ?

if you run "bitcoin core" client as your full node then you are automatically saying "no 2x", there is no point in adding something extra to repeat the obvious in my opinion.

in other words /Satoshi:0.xx.x.x/ is equal to /NO2x/

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Should a bitcoin full node have a [NO2X] tag added to the User agent string (via -uacomment parameter) ?

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if you guys have not woken up already.. its all a f**king bait and switch campaign..

the BSCartell (silbert AND blockstream) are in it together. WAKE UP

its the pretend 'choice' to make sheep think its freedom and decentralised but the whole thing is just pushing bitcoin away from satoshi's open vision and down segwit one way street of BSCartel control

either way it plays out BSCartel win and decentralisation is lost.

wake up.

BScartel are meandering dcentralisation.. into meaning purely centralised distribution. which is totally different ideals than what the ethos and reason bitcoin was invented for.

.. and yes i expect the usual propoganda crap from the bscartel shills protecting their friends

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