Browsing through the thread, I am surprised that there are Bitcoin Cash supporters still wanting to argue about the affairs of Bitcoin. You people have your fork, be happy with it. I truly wish all the success for BCC and its community.
Topic: #NO2X - JOIN THE WAR! - page 6. (Read 5272 times)
I am not a technical boys but I see segwit2x come from the same parties as BCH hardfork like Xapo and friends, they fail in bch hardfork and try to attack the second chance, will bitcoin collapse? If not the bitcoin price will jump and there will be the third attack.
people and free market will decide, whether core or 2x who will have more supporter. just see and wait how all of this will become.And when i say about supporter i mean individual bitcoin user, not monopolist corporates. people will choose.
Users here want 2x success not bcause they love it but because they want free money, just like previous fork, they dump free money for btc
As I can understand without reply protection in S2X it will be impossible to spend coins on both chains.
Thats mean you will lose your coins once spended on S2X.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
even with no replay protection it will NOT be impossible to spend coins safely on both chains. it will just be harder because you will have to take additional steps and most clients do not have easy, user-friendly options for most of the things you have to do (such as changing the locktime and using RBF,...).
Somehow, this is scary. Hard forks should be exceptional. We should not see a hard fork every quarter. This is damaging for BTC.
I totally agree with that, but we know that in current days, exchanges aren't going to decline an opportunity to generate huge loads of volume, and thus will list it anyway.
That's one of the annoying things. I feel that Poloniex adding Ethereum Classic last year spawned a whole new animal. Now Bitfinex adds altcoin after altcoin, token after token, no matter how scammy they are. And they have a clear interest in contentious forks -- they generate fees off the coin split contracts, the coins backing those contracts must remain locked on their exchange (they love that, especially if they are insolvent), and they stand to make considerable fees off coin split wars post-fork. They have a big incentive to see our community cannibalize itself, unfortunately.
What you remember saves you;
What shows this picture?
I don't get it.
Musicians connected together and can be derived to Music industry.
Anna Kurnikova,Ronaldo,Xavier Gonzales to sport industry.
It is obviously Roger Ver,Silbert,Maxwell,Dimon forming Fintech industry.
I am not a technical boys but I see segwit2x come from the same parties as BCH hardfork like Xapo and friends, they fail in bch hardfork and try to attack the second chance, will bitcoin collapse? If not the bitcoin price will jump and there will be the third attack.
people and free market will decide, whether core or 2x who will have more supporter. just see and wait how all of this will become.And when i say about supporter i mean individual bitcoin user, not monopolist corporates. people will choose.
Users here want 2x success not bcause they love it but because they want free money, just like previous fork, they dump free money for btc
As I can understand without reply protection in S2X it will be impossible to spend coins on both chains.
Thats mean you will lose your coins once spended on S2X.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
I am not a technical boys but I see segwit2x come from the same parties as BCH hardfork like Xapo and friends, they fail in bch hardfork and try to attack the second chance, will bitcoin collapse? If not the bitcoin price will jump and there will be the third attack.
people and free market will decide, whether core or 2x who will have more supporter. just see and wait how all of this will become.And when i say about supporter i mean individual bitcoin user, not monopolist corporates. people will choose.
Users here want 2x success not bcause they love it but because they want free money, just like previous fork, they dump free money for btc
As I can understand without reply protection in S2X it will be impossible to spend coins on both chains.
Thats mean you will lose your coins once spended on S2X.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Somehow, this is scary. Hard forks should be exceptional. We should not see a hard fork every quarter. This is damaging for BTC.
I totally agree with that, but we know that in current days, exchanges aren't going to decline an opportunity to generate huge loads of volume, and thus will list it anyway.
That's one of the annoying things. I feel that Poloniex adding Ethereum Classic last year spawned a whole new animal. Now Bitfinex adds altcoin after altcoin, token after token, no matter how scammy they are. And they have a clear interest in contentious forks -- they generate fees off the coin split contracts, the coins backing those contracts must remain locked on their exchange (they love that, especially if they are insolvent), and they stand to make considerable fees off coin split wars post-fork. They have a big incentive to see our community cannibalize itself, unfortunately.
What you remember saves you;
Somehow, this is scary. Hard forks should be exceptional. We should not see a hard fork every quarter. This is damaging for BTC.
I totally agree with that, but we know that in current days, exchanges aren't going to decline an opportunity to generate huge loads of volume, and thus will list it anyway.
That's one of the annoying things. I feel that Poloniex adding Ethereum Classic last year spawned a whole new animal. Now Bitfinex adds altcoin after altcoin, token after token, no matter how scammy they are. And they have a clear interest in contentious forks -- they generate fees off the coin split contracts, the coins backing those contracts must remain locked on their exchange (they love that, especially if they are insolvent), and they stand to make considerable fees off coin split wars post-fork. They have a big incentive to see our community cannibalize itself, unfortunately.
Here is the list of companies who said #NO2X > http://nob2x.org/
It's not a very impressive list at all. I really can't tell if the NYA is going to come crashing down in flames, or if the companies will double down in support of the fork. My suspicion is that the Mike Belches and Brian Armstrongs in the discussion believe that the market will react very strongly to a supermajority of miners switching chains. They may not be wrong about that; we need to wait and see.
Personally, I'm pretty nervous. I'd love to see everyone back out and call the whole thing off. But I think Bitmain is interested in the Core chain appearing weaker POW-wise, so it could get messy.
Somehow, this is scary. Hard forks should be exceptional. We should not see a hard fork every quarter. This is damaging for BTC.
I totally agree with that, but we know that in current days, exchanges aren't going to decline an opportunity to generate huge loads of volume, and thus will list it anyway. Another aspect is the pressure coming from people that are desperate to get it listed so they can cash their split coins out, trade them, shove them in their (you know what), or whatever. Same basically goes up for online wallet services - they need to go with it in order to not fall behind and potentially piss off their customers. It's sad that malicious entities are toying around with Bitcoin for their own financial gain, but that's the time we are living in - greed dictates the market, and there is literally nothing that can stop this.
2x or NO2X: Why Some Want to Hard Fork Bitcoin — and Why Others Do Not: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/2x-or-no2x-why-some-want-hard-fork-bitcoin-november-and-why-others-dont/
Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin.
Sure buddy. You keep praising to holy Andresen at your thread.
Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin.
Here is the list of companies who said #NO2X > http://nob2x.org/
I really don’t know that what is going to be happen and how to take the help from the given site but I think the price of the bitcoin is now very high and almost all the people can make money from the bitcoin and it is really hypocritical and they majority of the people are wandering for the perfect and full answer so do I.
Bitfinex has chosen today that if there's a hard fork, BTC will still be known an traded as BTC, while the Segwit2x fork will be known, and traded, as B2X.
https://www.bitfinex.com/posts/223
Somehow, this is scary. Hard forks should be exceptional. We should not see a hard fork every quarter. This is damaging for BTC.
https://www.bitfinex.com/posts/223
Somehow, this is scary. Hard forks should be exceptional. We should not see a hard fork every quarter. This is damaging for BTC.
Don't forget that BCH was very rushed, the decision to create this fork was made just days before SegWit signalling period, so they had no time and opportunity to consolidate miner and service support. But if you visit /r/BTC, a lot of people there believe that Bcash is the real Bitcoin because it's true to Satoshi's vision, and that SegWit was a corporate takeover by Blockstream.
The announcement of bitcoin cash was really late,everyone who is against block stream believes that BCH is the real version of bitcoin ,the price does not necessarily denotes what is the best solution ,i am an advocate of better technology and which team produces the best solution for any given issue regarding bitcoin development must join together rather than fighting apart and forking a new coin when ever there is an upgrade.The fact that BCH's "emergency difficulty adjustment" parameter led to periods of massive hyperinflation followed by periods where it takes hours to find blocks, I'd say they haven't stumbled onto "better technology." In fact, there is an open pull request in their Github to address their disastrous changes. The EDA was basically all they did besides increasing the block size limit.
And it turns out that increase was unnecessary since their average block size is like 50 kB.
Don't forget that BCH was very rushed, the decision to create this fork was made just days before SegWit signalling period, so they had no time and opportunity to consolidate miner and service support. But if you visit /r/BTC, a lot of people there believe that Bcash is the real Bitcoin because it's true to Satoshi's vision, and that SegWit was a corporate takeover by Blockstream.
The announcement of bitcoin cash was really late,everyone who is against block stream believes that BCH is the real version of bitcoin ,the price does not necessarily denotes what is the best solution ,i am an advocate of better technology and which team produces the best solution for any given issue regarding bitcoin development must join together rather than fighting apart and forking a new coin when ever there is an upgrade.
2x Countdown; http://bashco.github.io/2x_Countdown/
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