Topic: #NO2X - JOIN THE WAR! - page 5. (Read 5281 times)

He obviously did. Such a loser with shallow knowledge and understanding.

I am not so sure about Bixin and bitcoin.com, but the others are definitely Bitmain proxies and there was *evidence* of this in the past. BITMAIN is evil.

You came here to write this non-sense comment to fill up your monthly post quota so you can get paid from sig campaign, huh?
Pity.

I can support the idea of other pools being Bitmain Proxies.

Antpool, btc.top, viabtc, btc.com, bixin, bitcoin.com > %60 of the hashrate.

Unfortunately, that gives Bitmain a lot of power here. People are under the impression that Bitmain doesn't care about Segwit2x because of Bitcoin Cash. I disagree. The BCH fork was largely about pushing the ecosystem away from Core. This represents another opportunity for Bitmain to do that, by making the legacy chain the weaker chain.

It's already widely believed that most of the Chinese pools (as well as BTC.com) are just Bitmain proxies. And in private, according to Greg Maxwell, Jihan Wu has bragged that Bitmain controls a majority of the hash rate outright.


This may happen but in the long term, it won't sustain. The market will eventually tip one direction or the other, and miners will follow. The question is: how much effect can miners have on the market? If most miners leave the network, that may have a big psychological effect on holders/traders.

What is this?

Segwit2x is going to happen. Why sit here and say it won't? It has so much support for miners and the companies. Making some post on a forum showing how Core doesn't want it is just making you look bad.

Everything is going to be ok.... Calm down lol. Everyone is always so on edge about hard forks, meanwhile bitcoin goes even higher each time...

Well basically that means there will be a hard fork with a replay protection or something, for sure. Coinbase, Xapo and all the NYA signers not going to move S2X chain but wait and see if S2X going to survive or not.

If the majority hash power moves to S2X and Legacy Bitcoin blockchain gets weak due low hashrate, NYA companies will have a good reason to convince their users about why they will move to S2X "to protect users money".

That is the first option. Second option is, let's say %50 of the hashrate is moved to S2X. So, Original Bitcoin blocks will be created more slowly, UTXO will grow up and yes network congestion will happen but I think the gap will be replaced quickly.

see what i mean about the sheep are re-bleeting out the segwit propaganda..
they care more about protecting blockstream then they care about bitcoins utility

check the blockchain i even linked it!!! the evidence is in the blockchain and its immutable!

Franky1 is a lying, and hypocritical troll/shill. Don't believe a single word coming out of his mouth.

fear? not sure about that.

im still laughing at the segwit supporters.. yea the sheep are re-bleeting out the segwit propaganda.. but when it comes to the pools that pushed for it.. the pools themself are too afraid to even use segwit transactions themselves

check out BTCC
not using segwit address to receive the coinbase(block reward)
https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000088f4c787292ba94088977df200bd36ff4c6789c377f460

then when they move funds from multiple block rewards into a more structured stash.. that address too is legacy not segwit
https://blockchain.info/tx/932082ade49edd35973e80fd88f4bf51abe1b69687643a9f887b88a09b5bca44

im laughing soo hard. BTCC was the biggest pool mouthpiece supporting segwit but cant even admit they fear using segwit transactions for their own stash.

people really need to stop reading the reddit promo propaganda and instead start thinking for real and asking the real questions

We want to bring Bitcoin to more users because it has unique features and
>> qualities (namely permissionless-ness, resistance to tx censorship,
>> resistance to inflation, pseudonymity) that the existing financial system
>> doesn't offer. The presence of these features is contrary to the interests
>> of many powerful entities (the legacy banking system, governments and their
>> surveillance agencies) and only survive thanks to Bitcoin's
>> decentralisation and absence of centralised points of failure. Being
>> willing to sacrifice or endanger Bitcoin's decentralisation to achieve
>> scaling isn't wise or forward thinking, and is completely self-defeating.
>> What's the point of on-boarding an ever greater number of users if you run
>> the risk of weakening those features and give those users the same
>> experience than current centralised paiement systems offer, e.g. tx
>> censorship, vulnerability to inflation, and government surveillance? This
>> would be a nonsensical and unproductive thing to do.
>>
>> Doing this would be all the more absurd that we now know (as we have
>> since 2015) that, before increasing base block size, we can greatly
>> increase throughput through more efficient of block space (with Segwit and,
>> in the near future, with MAST, Schnorr signatures and signatures
>> aggregation) and more importantly, with second layer technologies such as
>> the Lightning Network or sidechains. These technologies are under rapid
>> development, and will soon alleviate scaling.

Bitcoin Cash is doing great.  I don't see any fail.

Jaxx (Decentral) from Canada said they may or may not implement S2X, but if they do it will be as an altcoin.

Source; https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/73f2eh/jaxx_did_not_decide_yet_to_implement_s2x_another/UASF/BIP148

Although I don't have two shit to give about their wallet because it's poorly written and others can easily steal your coins.

On the data posted by OP, I see only one Japanese company that support segwit 2x this November, maybe the majority don't support. Japanese today are the largest bitcoin consumer in the world after the effect of April this year about the legal tender of bitcoin in Japan territory. I have a high hopes that bitcoin's value still stay strong as long as Japan and South Korea embraces bitcoin core. My action depends on Japan's move on which side they prefer, wherever they will go, i will follow. My bitcoin's future rely on Japanese demand.