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Topic: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list - page 12. (Read 15588 times)

hero member
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Hey kid, thanks for sharing your voice here. Dont get in over your head, I cant nominate a "forum section (Meta)" to the default trust list.  When US hosted the world cup, Fifa didnt grant every nation that continent to join the tournament.  Grin  Grin

But in all seriousness, lets get this out of the way, I have no interest to get to the default trust depth, at least not now.

But the fact that people are even considering 'voting' for me or in other case vouching for me - even as a joke - shows how flawed this system really is. The very reason that this topic exists is because I am trying to point out how useless and monopolized the trust system really is.

Gaining trust is so damn easy, all you have to do is suck up to a couple of guys, bust some scams and viola! you are IN the top circle of the trust and all of a sudden you have the power to declare that this person is suspicious, I am a "COP", I have a gun and I'll shoot this bastard down. No I am not comparing guys like Quickie Boy to real cops but stating how things can get out of hands.

There are more than one instance where this theory has failed and has ruined a profile and you know what gives next ? The person simply recreates a another account or even better BUYS A HIGH REP ACCOUNT and the fact that a same IP is allowed to create / own multiple accounts is also appalling. I know banning multiple IP logins isnt fair but at least create a tracking system like Bitlendingclub where similar IP accounts are shown to the public.


We are at the forefront of the Bitcoin revolution on this forum and this forum is riddled with cheap politics like this, WE NEED TO CHANGE.
sr. member
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It was kinda funny to see "legendster" in the nomination list. I guess you better work on getting those red marks removed off your trust(not calling you a scammer and I know that you'll tell me that those red marks are bullshit and people who want to trade with you will trade seeing the other feedbacks too), but still as an admin it wont be a good idea for theymos to consider your name even if you lead the polls. You are just in the organising committee, the host is the meta section  Tongue(P.S : Don't start explaining that you are doing this poll for fun).

Anyways, I voted for Benson Samuel, he's a nice guy, a good moderator, is level headed and is managing Coinsecure well  Smiley .

Also I think this is a poll to add users to the "trust depth 1" cuz stunna and Benson are already in the default trust list(I define default trust list as the trust list which you get when you signup on the forum or the list that includes people from depth 1 & depth 2).
legendary
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Cool topic! Just wondering, when was the last time theymos updated the default trust list?
hero member
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!

THIS is the very reason why I dont support the 'Trust system' any random motherfudger can come & create a baseless accusation and the accused would have to spend days trying to repair his image or at least explain to every damn moron that believes the accusation.


This.

No baseless accusations has ever endure for long. IRL, you will have to do the same.

*ahem* 10 months *ahem*

It hasn't affected your reputation.
legendary
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THIS is the very reason why I dont support the 'Trust system' any random motherfudger can come & create a baseless accusation and the accused would have to spend days trying to repair his image or at least explain to every damn moron that believes the accusation.


This.

No baseless accusations has ever endure for long. IRL, you will have to do the same.

*ahem* 10 months *ahem*
hero member
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If even OP with his negative trust and shady behavior can be nominated and receive votes, then I nominate myself. I have the biggest weight in my trust list, after all.

What shady behavior ? Been on this forum since 2013 so kindly do tell me what I did to warrant such comments ? Not sure if you noticed that the nomination rule is that you must have a minimum of 10 + positive trust streak and a minimum of 55 trust points.
legendary
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If even OP with his negative trust and shady behavior can be nominated and receive votes, then I nominate myself. I have the biggest weight in my trust list, after all.
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Dubs Get
Do not forget to vote Blazed in 2015!

 Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

LOOK I got 2 votes !
actually its 3
hero member
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Do not forget to vote Blazed in 2015!

 Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

LOOK I got 2 votes !
legendary
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Do not forget to vote Blazed in 2015!

 Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
hero member
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Reading over this thread, there are a startling amount of misconceptions here. I think I'll spend an hour or two writing up a general informative on how Default trust was supposed to work, how it works, whats wrong with it, and why.

Obviously, people are welcome to ignore what I say as biassed or corrupt or whatever.

Will look forward to it.
legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
Reading over this thread, there are a startling amount of misconceptions here. I think I'll spend an hour or two writing up a general informative on how Default trust was supposed to work, how it works, whats wrong with it, and why.

Obviously, people are welcome to ignore what I say as biassed or corrupt or whatever.
legendary
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It's high time people stop comparing DF members to Police officers. Such a grave insult to the Police Officers. There are some actions of the officer which everyone has condemned one day or the other but still I respect those officers who are honest and don't just imprison anyone who roams on the streets unlike some DF members who consider all those who aren't in that "so called DF list" as potential scammers. There are officers who have given up their life for my country and those who have even risked their lives. Are we seriously comparing the two?

DF members need to stop scams and make members alert of such potential scammers instead of accusing anyone who disagress with them as scammers. They are misusing their power and this is what I dislike about this system. Too much unity among DF members that they leave each other a +ve trust even without dealing with them and then tag other members as suspicious.


DF members need to be responsible and sensible instead of being rude and harsh. I really hope Theymos and BadBear rethink about the default trust system and only the members whom they trust should be added rather than having 4 depths which includes members and their alts as well. No clue how many *REAL* members are on the default trust list as anyone could have more than 1 account on that list. At least a little moderating is required so that the ratings aren't abused.
hero member
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THIS is the very reason why I dont support the 'Trust system' any random motherfudger can come & create a baseless accusation and the accused would have to spend days trying to repair his image or at least explain to every damn moron that believes the accusation.


This.

No baseless accusations has ever endure for long. IRL, you will have to do the same.
This.

If someone were to make a baseless accusation then you will not be taken seriously. There are also no baseless accusations that have been made by people on default trust that I can think of off the top of my head (although there are several instances where negative trust was given for inappropriate reasons).

Forum Policing is the ultimate form of practicing 'baseless accusation' its like condemning a criminal even before he even thinks of committing a crime.
It just helps the meak minded to avoid *some scams in the short run while the real scammers device easy work around long cons to get what they want, in the mean while wanna be forum cops (like yourself) gain all the trust you need to potentially turn someone into a saint or a devil and guess what the sheep minded people here WILL take you seriously Smiley

This isnt personal.
So you would rather be able to pull off a scam first and then receive negative trust so you cannot scam a second time?

The trust system is designed to prevent scams from happening in the first place.

Do you think a police officer would stand by and do nothing if they saw someone wearing a mask and holding a gun walk into a bank?

Police Officer ? Is that what you fancy yourself to be ?

-edit-
You should correct your tone again, dont speak as if I am trying to pull off a scam here or anywhere for that matter. Also, if I remember correctly police officers these days in their over zealousness have killed innocent people holding a banana; thinking it was a gun.
hero member
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This.

If someone were to make a baseless accusation then you will not be taken seriously. There are also no baseless accusations that have been made by people on default trust that I can think of off the top of my head (although there are several instances where negative trust was given for inappropriate reasons).

Funny. You made a baseless accusation about me. You are then deemed not to be taken seriously. Good. I am happy that is clear now.

An anonymous person who has never met me. Done business with me gets to judge me and call me an extortionist?

Really?

I think that is a joke considering I have held over $80,000 USD in escrow for others and returned it when the AVALON chips never shipped. I am an extortionist. Well welcome to the wonderful world of Quickseller justice. How wonderful to be you. What a fooking hypocrite and he gets on a default list are you kidding me.

Agreed dump the default list let it be up to the users to decide who they want to add or not. It is a farce with people like this running around protecting Dogie a known VAT fraud pretending to do what is best for the community while turning a blind eye on his BULLSHIT.

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THIS is the very reason why I dont support the 'Trust system' any random motherfudger can come & create a baseless accusation and the accused would have to spend days trying to repair his image or at least explain to every damn moron that believes the accusation.


This.

No baseless accusations has ever endure for long. IRL, you will have to do the same.
This.

If someone were to make a baseless accusation then you will not be taken seriously. There are also no baseless accusations that have been made by people on default trust that I can think of off the top of my head (although there are several instances where negative trust was given for inappropriate reasons).

Forum Policing is the ultimate form of practicing 'baseless accusation' its like condemning a criminal even before he even thinks of committing a crime.
It just helps the meak minded to avoid *some scams in the short run while the real scammers device easy work around long cons to get what they want, in the mean while wanna be forum cops (like yourself) gain all the trust you need to potentially turn someone into a saint or a devil and guess what the sheep minded people here WILL take you seriously Smiley

This isnt personal.
So you would rather be able to pull off a scam first and then receive negative trust so you cannot scam a second time?

The trust system is designed to prevent scams from happening in the first place.

Do you think a police officer would stand by and do nothing if they saw someone wearing a mask and holding a gun walk into a bank?
hero member
Activity: 1778
Merit: 764
www.V.systems

THIS is the very reason why I dont support the 'Trust system' any random motherfudger can come & create a baseless accusation and the accused would have to spend days trying to repair his image or at least explain to every damn moron that believes the accusation.


This.

No baseless accusations has ever endure for long. IRL, you will have to do the same.
This.

If someone were to make a baseless accusation then you will not be taken seriously. There are also no baseless accusations that have been made by people on default trust that I can think of off the top of my head (although there are several instances where negative trust was given for inappropriate reasons).

Forum Policing is the ultimate form of practicing 'baseless accusation' its like condemning a criminal even before he even thinks of committing a crime.
It just helps the meak minded to avoid *some scams in the short run while the real scammers device easy work around long cons to get what they want, in the mean while wanna be forum cops (like yourself) gain all the trust you need to potentially turn someone into a saint or a devil and guess what the sheep minded people here WILL take you seriously Smiley

This isnt personal.
copper member
Activity: 2926
Merit: 2348

THIS is the very reason why I dont support the 'Trust system' any random motherfudger can come & create a baseless accusation and the accused would have to spend days trying to repair his image or at least explain to every damn moron that believes the accusation.


This.

No baseless accusations has ever endure for long. IRL, you will have to do the same.
This.

If someone were to make a baseless accusation then you will not be taken seriously. There are also no baseless accusations that have been made by people on default trust that I can think of off the top of my head (although there are several instances where negative trust was given for inappropriate reasons).
hero member
Activity: 1778
Merit: 764
www.V.systems

THIS is the very reason why I dont support the 'Trust system' any random motherfudger can come & create a baseless accusation and the accused would have to spend days trying to repair his image or at least explain to every damn moron that believes the accusation.


This.

No baseless accusations has ever endure for long. IRL, you will have to do the same.

I have been accused of living in Dubai, selling stolen cars and scamming people off of their money by creating a loan request on BTCJAM for a long time now AND I'm still enduring it, I dont see it going away anytime soon.
But do any of those guys who accused me of all that crap ever GIVE A CRAP of wiping off those baseless slanders ? No.

Make no mistake those accusations have had no limiting effect on the transactions I have done on this forum but it just is a pain to see how EASILY a moron can turn my green trust into red / orange. Same goes with many other that have faced the same situation.
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