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legendster
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 11:16:13 AM
#76
Quote from: Vod on May 30, 2015, 12:01:49 AM
If I nominate myself, would I be bumped up from level 2 to level 1?

I know a few honest members here that I would add to level 2.   Smiley

You are a Forum Cop, and in a sense you and Tomatocage are the 'pioneer' of this forum policing. The very reason I started this mess here.

Which is good.

But now every other idiot is trying to follow your footsteps to get to that high level of trust on this forum. Which is what I have a problem with.

A typical wanna be Cage / Vod has lower number of trades than a serial trader here on this forum, I just dont get it why that should be the case. I am not saying that either you or cage or anyone that follows your footsteps are underserving of the trust you guys have earned but that just gives all of the new 'forum cops' a new 'short cut' to get to the top & do some major screw job.
Muhammed Zakir
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 11:13:48 AM
#75
Quote from: Michail1 on May 30, 2015, 11:08:10 AM
Quote from: legendster on May 30, 2015, 11:04:46 AM

THIS is the very reason why I dont support the 'Trust system' any random motherfudger can come & create a baseless accusation and the accused would have to spend days trying to repair his image or at least explain to every damn moron that believes the accusation.


This.

No baseless accusations has ever endure for long. IRL, you will have to do the same.
legendster
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 11:10:15 AM
#74
Quote from: Michail1 on May 30, 2015, 08:26:52 AM
I can't vote.  It's a radio button instead of a check box, so it allows me to only vote for one person.  And, I am not on the list.

JK
Vote placed, but shouldn't it also be a lottery in that the voters win something.  Get paid to pick the right person?
Or, the voters have to donate 0.xyzBTC to place a vote.

JK Again.

You havent got a 55+ TS as seen from my end so you dont qualify.

You dont win anything here, neither do you lose anything. But you can see how 'wrong' the trust system really is.
Michail1
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 11:08:10 AM
#73
Quote from: legendster on May 30, 2015, 11:04:46 AM

THIS is the very reason why I dont support the 'Trust system' any random motherfudger can come & create a baseless accusation and the accused would have to spend days trying to repair his image or at least explain to every damn moron that believes the accusation.


This.
legendster
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 11:07:45 AM
#72
Quote from: escrow.ms on May 30, 2015, 06:28:12 AM
Quote from: legendster on May 29, 2015, 01:56:44 PM

The quality of the trade doesnt matter here. The number of trades do.

Nope It's not just about number of trades, I can provide you a example here.
Projects https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/projects-52439 (He stole approx 400k USD)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-report-projects-393593

PS: I would like to see Kludge & Blazedout419 in Default trust list.

A scammer is a scammer even if he stole $1 or $1,000,000 but when it comes to trusting people to do business with over here in this forum the trust system blatantly fails.
legendster
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 11:04:46 AM
#71
Quote from: Lauda on May 30, 2015, 03:47:58 AM
This is a joke right?
Yes thats right.
Quote from: Lauda on May 30, 2015, 03:47:58 AM
Most of the people on that list are a joke, including yourself OP.
Not MOST people because they DO have a bigger dick trust score than you. People that put their trust on those people werent joking around when they added they added the trust points.

Quote from: Lauda on May 30, 2015, 03:47:58 AM
You even have negative trust yourself and are a classified scammer.

Oh really ? Now I didnt have a problem with any of the statements made so far, but I have a problem with this statement so why dont you show me proof / links / evidence where I have scammed even a single penny from anyone on the INTERNET ? (I'm easy to find through google) Go ahead and do it, oh & when you DONT find it then do youself a favor and keep your piehole shut & think twice before slandering anyone.

THIS is the very reason why I dont support the 'Trust system' any random motherfudger can come & create a baseless accusation and the accused would have to spend days trying to repair his image or at least explain to every damn moron that believes the accusation.

THIS is just goes to show what a failure this trust system really is.
legendster
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 10:56:36 AM
#70
Quote from: ?? on ??
Quote from: legendster on May 29, 2015, 01:24:44 PM
Quote from: KarmaShark on May 29, 2015, 12:55:03 PM
@OP i see you Red , why are you even in the list Tongue , you don't qualify with 55 Trust

Its kinda getting repetitive. World Cup Host Nation Rule!! Read the full post.

That is one Hilarious way of doing it Cheesy
I see Og Removed from list , Stupid me , he was already in DefaultTrust 1 , i thought he was in level 2.
Like I said, if just by HOSTING a world cup an undeserving nation can be a part of that World Cup then why not me ? Cheesy This is a fun / hilarious post, been trumpeting that since the start.
Michail1
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 08:26:52 AM
#69
I can't vote.  It's a radio button instead of a check box, so it allows me to only vote for one person.  And, I am not on the list.

JK
Vote placed, but shouldn't it also be a lottery in that the voters win something.  Get paid to pick the right person?
Or, the voters have to donate 0.xyzBTC to place a vote.

JK Again.
botany
legendary
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 08:18:35 AM
#68
Quote from: legendster on May 29, 2015, 09:52:13 AM
Like I said this is a FUN post and lets not make it anymore serious than it needs to be.

If this is a fun post, you should consider moving it to off-topic
ianferns
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 08:01:23 AM
#67
Whats the point of this thread ? Its not as that because of this thread people will be added to the default list .
Blazed
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 07:59:26 AM
#66
Yeah I am added to Philip and Tomato's lists already so adding me will do not much. I only joked about being added due to the use of trust scores since mine is fairly high. I do think that with public disputes the default trust has gotten much better.
redsn0w
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#Free market
Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 06:48:00 AM
#65
Quote from: escrow.ms on May 30, 2015, 06:42:18 AM
Quote from: redsn0w on May 30, 2015, 06:32:53 AM
Quote from: escrow.ms on May 30, 2015, 06:28:12 AM
Quote from: legendster on May 29, 2015, 01:56:44 PM

The quality of the trade doesnt matter here. The number of trades do.

Nope It's not just about number of trades, I can provide you a example here.
Projects https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/projects-52439 (He stole approx 400k USD)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-report-projects-393593

PS: I would like to see Kludge & Blazedout419 in Default trust list.

Blazedout419 is already in the Tomatocage's trust list, so he is also in the defaultTrust list (depth 2). The same thing for Kluge ( dserrano5, Tomatocage and BadBear's trust list).


If you trust Kluge & Blazedout419 add them to your trust list Wink.

They are already in my trust list since trust system was started.

Oh so have you asked to see them in the list of the user DefaultTrust (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/defaulttrust-122551 Sorry I misunderstood  Lips sealed. *basically in the depth 1 (if we have only the DefaultTrust user in our list).
escrow.ms
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 06:42:18 AM
#64
Quote from: redsn0w on May 30, 2015, 06:32:53 AM
Quote from: escrow.ms on May 30, 2015, 06:28:12 AM
Quote from: legendster on May 29, 2015, 01:56:44 PM

The quality of the trade doesnt matter here. The number of trades do.

Nope It's not just about number of trades, I can provide you a example here.
Projects https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/projects-52439 (He stole approx 400k USD)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-report-projects-393593

PS: I would like to see Kludge & Blazedout419 in Default trust list.

Blazedout419 is already in the Tomatocage's trust list, so he is also in the defaultTrust list (depth 2). The same thing for Kluge ( dserrano5, Tomatocage and BadBear's trust list).


If you trust Kluge & Blazedout419 add them to your trust list Wink.

They are already in my trust list since trust system was started.
redsn0w
legendary
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#Free market
Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 06:32:53 AM
#63
Quote from: escrow.ms on May 30, 2015, 06:28:12 AM
Quote from: legendster on May 29, 2015, 01:56:44 PM

The quality of the trade doesnt matter here. The number of trades do.

Nope It's not just about number of trades, I can provide you a example here.
Projects https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/projects-52439 (He stole approx 400k USD)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-report-projects-393593

PS: I would like to see Kludge & Blazedout419 in Default trust list.

Blazedout419 is already in the Tomatocage's trust list, so he is also in the defaultTrust list (depth 2). The same thing for Kluge ( dserrano5, Tomatocage and BadBear's trust list).


If you trust Kluge & Blazedout419 add them to your trust list Wink.
escrow.ms
legendary
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 06:28:12 AM
#62
Quote from: legendster on May 29, 2015, 01:56:44 PM

The quality of the trade doesnt matter here. The number of trades do.

Nope It's not just about number of trades, I can provide you a example here.
Projects https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/projects-52439 (He stole approx 400k USD)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-report-projects-393593

PS: I would like to see Kludge & Blazedout419 in Default trust list.
Bicknellski
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 06:10:45 AM
#61
I believe there is a thread for that Diamond.

Been plenty of suggestions made.

For me my suggestions would be made there not off topic here.


Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 30, 2015, 05:54:04 AM
Quote from: Bicknellski on May 30, 2015, 05:41:56 AM
Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 30, 2015, 04:43:26 AM
Quote from: Bicknellski on May 30, 2015, 04:37:04 AM
NO ONE.

Dump the default. Let the community set the list.

And how do you propose we deal with shills?

That's the problem. You can scream for justice and total decentralization but at the end of the day it's extremely hard to properly implement. I haven't really seen an idea that would actually work better than DefaultTrust in implementation, so really it's either DefaultTrust or allow all members above a certain rank to give trusted feedback.

Holy fook? How do you deal with them now?

Let them get on the default trust I guess?

Name all the anonymous members on the Default Trust list please. Are you 100% sure the default list is free of people you wouldn't trust? See Quickseller as an example.

Oh no, I'm not saying DefaultTrust doesn't have corrupt people who use it for their own benefit. I'm very aware of that and I've seen it be used quite heavily as a tool to manipulate and advance personal interests.

But what's the best alternative?
shorena
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 06:01:01 AM
#60
Quote from: legendster on May 29, 2015, 01:56:44 PM
Quote from: TheGr33k on May 29, 2015, 01:49:58 PM
I noticed that Shdvb has traded big amounts of bitcoins and he is not even in Depth 4. That's weird.
Same goes with many others.

The quality of the trade doesnt matter here. The number of trades do.

I think this is where your approach has it wrong. Someone said it earlier - IIRC Welsh - the number of trades one does is not as relevant as why and how they leave feedback ratings. The feedback by a known scammer can be valueable.
DiamondCardz
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 05:54:04 AM
#59
Quote from: Bicknellski on May 30, 2015, 05:41:56 AM
Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 30, 2015, 04:43:26 AM
Quote from: Bicknellski on May 30, 2015, 04:37:04 AM
NO ONE.

Dump the default. Let the community set the list.

And how do you propose we deal with shills?

That's the problem. You can scream for justice and total decentralization but at the end of the day it's extremely hard to properly implement. I haven't really seen an idea that would actually work better than DefaultTrust in implementation, so really it's either DefaultTrust or allow all members above a certain rank to give trusted feedback.

Holy fook? How do you deal with them now?

Let them get on the default trust I guess?

Name all the anonymous members on the Default Trust list please. Are you 100% sure the default list is free of people you wouldn't trust? See Quickseller as an example.

Oh no, I'm not saying DefaultTrust doesn't have corrupt people who use it for their own benefit. I'm very aware of that and I've seen it be used quite heavily as a tool to manipulate and advance personal interests.

But what's the best alternative?
Bicknellski
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 05:41:56 AM
#58
Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 30, 2015, 04:43:26 AM
Quote from: Bicknellski on May 30, 2015, 04:37:04 AM
NO ONE.

Dump the default. Let the community set the list.

And how do you propose we deal with shills?

That's the problem. You can scream for justice and total decentralization but at the end of the day it's extremely hard to properly implement. I haven't really seen an idea that would actually work better than DefaultTrust in implementation, so really it's either DefaultTrust or allow all members above a certain rank to give trusted feedback.

Holy fook? How do you deal with them now?

Let them get on the default trust I guess?

Name all the anonymous members on the Default Trust list please. Are you 100% sure the default list is free of people you wouldn't trust? See Quickseller as an example.
DiamondCardz
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Re: Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list
May 30, 2015, 04:43:26 AM
#57
Quote from: Bicknellski on May 30, 2015, 04:37:04 AM
NO ONE.

Dump the default. Let the community set the list.

And how do you propose we deal with shills?

That's the problem. You can scream for justice and total decentralization but at the end of the day it's extremely hard to properly implement. I haven't really seen an idea that would actually work better than DefaultTrust in implementation, so really it's either DefaultTrust or allow all members above a certain rank to give trusted feedback.
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