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Nxt news – May 2017 (III): The Only Freedom You Truly Have is in Your Mind – Use It


May 2017 (III)

NXT COMMUNITY

    Blockchain Event by El Pais Retina – Decentralized Voting
    Nxt in a Box – How to Setup a Nxt Node on a Raspberry Pi 2
    Jelurida – Using the Nxt and Ardor Blockchains Without Installing the Client
    Janus – New Projects and Q&A Session
    Adel – Roadmap and New White Paper Published
    19800.com – New Market ARDR/CNY

NXT IN THE MEDIA

    Cointelegraph – Reviews and Articles About Adel

PRICE EVOLUTION

    Weekly NXT/ARDR Price Evolution

https://www.nxter.org/nxt-news-may-2017-iii-freedom-truly-mind-use
newbie
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...NXT universe is and remains so far detached from what is going on in the world of cryptocurrencies today, in spite of the significant gains of late which are a very small portion of what other projects, perhaps with less technical merit, have already achieved. I believe this is due to a lack of vision on the part of the team that are very happy seeing their balances growing up when they could be growing up exponentially for everybody...

Afaik they have profited everybody holding ardr and nxt haven't they? Did you have a better vision and proposal how to go about it? I thought their move with Jelurida was the right one if you want to be taken seriously in this field and still be loyal to all nxt-holders. Had they stuck with nxt as is we would still be somewhere around 5 to 10 mil usd range imho.
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Buy Low, Sell at Alpha Centauri

You have a couple of things wrong: The people developing this project not only own millions (many) of NXT but tens of millions of ARDR. Money is NOT a problem, they have it by the boatloads.

Which projects copy NXT, specifically? Give names. I think you have that quite wrong also.

And a bit of history: In the beginning, no one wanted NXT (too complicated). Afterwards, many people appreciated the tech in it, the ability to handle an exchange where anything could be exchanged. And all those people -me included- bought into it in spite of the fact that only like 70 people owned more than 90% of the project. More recently, they got even greedier -but in a very smart way- and doubled their money with this smart scheme that is naming the next version of NXT Ardor and giving themselves -and the other owners- the tokens for free while bringing them to the market... guess what, it worked. Chapeau. They doubled their money overnight. Problem is that the project remains a "cult" one, kind of thing: Converts like it a lot (with good reasons) but the rest of crypto -and much more the general population-, consider (those rare ones that have even heard of it) a small sideshow that will never be implemented in the real world where blockchains have become a household name attached, mainly, to Ethereum. Which is being implemented in hundreds and hundreds of real world projects -as well as thousands of crypto ones- as we speak. The inability of the team to sell their tech to the real world is evident.

As for "never the solutions" what "solutions" that NXT have are you talking about, that are not fully implemented in, for instance, ETH, DASH or even LISK?

what i mean, without funding all the other project is dead, dont expect most of it to survive for years,
but still NXT only raise 21btc, and a the tech is proven for years, the dev is even committed for years,
so money may not always the solutions, dev commitments that's what matters

.

dude, ARDOR is more than that, while all the others still arguing for segwits, and ARDOR is the first and long before all the others implementing the child chain
again the NXT tech is 1step ahead
me and everyone had ardor and maybe ignis for FREE too, and where the wrong in that? dont envy if you miss the train, IGNIS snapshot is coming Q3
and its not overnight, it took me 3months in duration to participate in ARDOR snapshots

i dont believe what your accusing is true, if the dev had so much money, they don't need to raise donations.

okay, i have to admit it lacks of distributions, some of people have to much NXT coins and this is seems not fair with only 21btc they hold a lot
but Etherium have similar case isn't it?, vitalik do hold so much, and no one complaining?
no one hate etherium, if there is a comparisons it is only for motivation to be better,  etherium lucky to have the hype.

i believe in the future more project with real use case will be implemented in ARDOR blockchain/NXT.

what i remember = NEM, Waves (sorry if im mistaken)




Err dude, you are too new and too naive. It'd be nice if you would do your research (right here in this thread if nowhere else).

I am not "accusing" anyone of anything, I just stated facts. Here's another one for you: The development team on NXT/ARDOR has set up -many months ago, and not in secret at all- a regular, PRIVATE, company which they own, who will be the beneficiary of any and all income, besides that 50% of IGNIS, produced by the sale of childchains on Ardor. You get that? It isn't an "accusation" it's the statement of a FACT, a public one, Jelurida. Now make of it whatever you want but it isn't "accusation" nor opinion, it's just FACT.

They certainly don't "need" donations. What they need is people supporting the network because without that support ("mining" by any other names), there's no security in the network. As a matter of fact -and there cannot be proof of this, so don't ask-, I believe the team itself owns already more than 50% of the combined NXT/ARDR, a figure certainly to increment significantly when they receive their 50% of IGNIS plus the corresponding part of the other 50%.

This is, technically, an excellent platform. Unfortunately, it is in the hands of a very small group of people, that's all. And that's not it's only limitation since, as a consequence, the entire NXT universe is much more reduced than otherwise it would be for many people simply don't want to be a long term participant in such one-sided, more and more centralized enterprise.

I personally -since you seem interested- applaud the tech and the smarts of the team and I have been in it for 4 years now (I remember NXT trading at over 9,000 then) and have traded it many times since. Still do.
I also profited from the free Ardor and will continue profiting in the future if the volume allows it, but lament that the NXT universe is and remains so far detached from what is going on in the world of cryptocurrencies today, in spite of the significant gains of late which are a very small portion of what other projects, perhaps with less technical merit, have already achieved. I believe this is due to a lack of vision on the part of the team that are very happy seeing their balances growing up when they could be growing up exponentially for everybody with NXT becoming a real player in the industry, not just an also-run.

Thank you for your excellent assessment. You've convinced me not to buy NXT, but to buy more GAME.
The Gaming Industry is 54 Billion in 2017. Gaming dwarfs the Crypto Industry, and GAME is on the leading edge of both.
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legendary
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You have a couple of things wrong: The people developing this project not only own millions (many) of NXT but tens of millions of ARDR. Money is NOT a problem, they have it by the boatloads.

Which projects copy NXT, specifically? Give names. I think you have that quite wrong also.

And a bit of history: In the beginning, no one wanted NXT (too complicated). Afterwards, many people appreciated the tech in it, the ability to handle an exchange where anything could be exchanged. And all those people -me included- bought into it in spite of the fact that only like 70 people owned more than 90% of the project. More recently, they got even greedier -but in a very smart way- and doubled their money with this smart scheme that is naming the next version of NXT Ardor and giving themselves -and the other owners- the tokens for free while bringing them to the market... guess what, it worked. Chapeau. They doubled their money overnight. Problem is that the project remains a "cult" one, kind of thing: Converts like it a lot (with good reasons) but the rest of crypto -and much more the general population-, consider (those rare ones that have even heard of it) a small sideshow that will never be implemented in the real world where blockchains have become a household name attached, mainly, to Ethereum. Which is being implemented in hundreds and hundreds of real world projects -as well as thousands of crypto ones- as we speak. The inability of the team to sell their tech to the real world is evident.

As for "never the solutions" what "solutions" that NXT have are you talking about, that are not fully implemented in, for instance, ETH, DASH or even LISK?

what i mean, without funding all the other project is dead, dont expect most of it to survive for years,
but still NXT only raise 21btc, and a the tech is proven for years, the dev is even committed for years,
so money may not always the solutions, dev commitments that's what matters

.

dude, ARDOR is more than that, while all the others still arguing for segwits, and ARDOR is the first and long before all the others implementing the child chain
again the NXT tech is 1step ahead
me and everyone had ardor and maybe ignis for FREE too, and where the wrong in that? dont envy if you miss the train, IGNIS snapshot is coming Q3
and its not overnight, it took me 3months in duration to participate in ARDOR snapshots

i dont believe what your accusing is true, if the dev had so much money, they don't need to raise donations.

okay, i have to admit it lacks of distributions, some of people have to much NXT coins and this is seems not fair with only 21btc they hold a lot
but Etherium have similar case isn't it?, vitalik do hold so much, and no one complaining?
no one hate etherium, if there is a comparisons it is only for motivation to be better,  etherium lucky to have the hype.

i believe in the future more project with real use case will be implemented in ARDOR blockchain/NXT.

what i remember = NEM, Waves (sorry if im mistaken)




Err dude, you are too new and too naive. It'd be nice if you would do your research (right here in this thread if nowhere else).

I am not "accusing" anyone of anything, I just stated facts. Here's another one for you: The development team on NXT/ARDOR has set up -many months ago, and not in secret at all- a regular, PRIVATE, company which they own, who will be the beneficiary of any and all income, besides that 50% of IGNIS, produced by the sale of childchains on Ardor. You get that? It isn't an "accusation" it's the statement of a FACT, a public one, Jelurida. Now make of it whatever you want but it isn't "accusation" nor opinion, it's just FACT.

They certainly don't "need" donations. What they need is people supporting the network because without that support ("mining" by any other names), there's no security in the network. As a matter of fact -and there cannot be proof of this, so don't ask-, I believe the team itself owns already more than 50% of the combined NXT/ARDR, a figure certainly to increment significantly when they receive their 50% of IGNIS plus the corresponding part of the other 50%.

This is, technically, an excellent platform. Unfortunately, it is in the hands of a very small group of people, that's all. And that's not it's only limitation since, as a consequence, the entire NXT universe is much more reduced than otherwise it would be for many people simply don't want to be a long term participant in such one-sided, more and more centralized enterprise.

I personally -since you seem interested- applaud the tech and the smarts of the team and I have been in it for 4 years now (I remember NXT trading at over 9,000 then) and have traded it many times since. Still do.
I also profited from the free Ardor and will continue profiting in the future if the volume allows it, but lament that the NXT universe is and remains so far detached from what is going on in the world of cryptocurrencies today, in spite of the significant gains of late which are a very small portion of what other projects, perhaps with less technical merit, have already achieved. I believe this is due to a lack of vision on the part of the team that are very happy seeing their balances growing up when they could be growing up exponentially for everybody with NXT becoming a real player in the industry, not just an also-run.
legendary
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thank you. i received my first NSC coins. will keep them.
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Nxt-kit developer
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FYI, newcomers!
Did you know you can mine NXT (and buy Ardor with it on the Nxt Asset Exchange!) in the Lucky node project?
Computational and bandwidth requirements are very low - some users run it on a Raspberry Pi.
Run the node 24/7 or as often as you can while you work or play.
Join in with the over 100 nodes that are already in the project.
legendary
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Hello excellent Blockchain community,

We have confirmed a time with Nxt foundation member Marenkar to help us host the Q&A for our newest team member and company brand ambassador. It will occur, next Thursday May 18th starting 1pm - 2:30 pm eastern​ standard time.

This individual brings with him over 20+ years of experience and contacts within various industry, primarily entertainment. He has personally met world leaders, and celebrity alike that are well known in pop culture past and present. His experience will be vital to our team and company success now and long into the future.

To avoid making extravagant claims we will have the Nxt Foundation confirm publicly his identity, followed up with LinkedIn and other factors that cannot be faked. I have also met him under circumstances that are impossible to fabricate his roles in the past.

Please mark the date and time down if you plan to attend this Q&A and thank you in advance for joining the event!

-Janus team

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You have a couple of things wrong: The people developing this project not only own millions (many) of NXT but tens of millions of ARDR. Money is NOT a problem, they have it by the boatloads.

Which projects copy NXT, specifically? Give names. I think you have that quite wrong also.

And a bit of history: In the beginning, no one wanted NXT (too complicated). Afterwards, many people appreciated the tech in it, the ability to handle an exchange where anything could be exchanged. And all those people -me included- bought into it in spite of the fact that only like 70 people owned more than 90% of the project. More recently, they got even greedier -but in a very smart way- and doubled their money with this smart scheme that is naming the next version of NXT Ardor and giving themselves -and the other owners- the tokens for free while bringing them to the market... guess what, it worked. Chapeau. They doubled their money overnight. Problem is that the project remains a "cult" one, kind of thing: Converts like it a lot (with good reasons) but the rest of crypto -and much more the general population-, consider (those rare ones that have even heard of it) a small sideshow that will never be implemented in the real world where blockchains have become a household name attached, mainly, to Ethereum. Which is being implemented in hundreds and hundreds of real world projects -as well as thousands of crypto ones- as we speak. The inability of the team to sell their tech to the real world is evident.

As for "never the solutions" what "solutions" that NXT have are you talking about, that are not fully implemented in, for instance, ETH, DASH or even LISK?

what i mean, without funding all the other project is dead, dont expect most of it to survive for years,
but still NXT only raise 21btc, and a the tech is proven for years, the dev is even committed for years,
so money may not always the solutions, dev commitments that's what matters

.

dude, ARDOR is more than that, while all the others still arguing for segwits, and ARDOR is the first and long before all the others implementing the child chain
again the NXT tech is 1step ahead
me and everyone had ardor and maybe ignis for FREE too, and where the wrong in that? dont envy if you miss the train, IGNIS snapshot is coming Q3
and its not overnight, it took me 3months in duration to participate in ARDOR snapshots

i dont believe what your accusing is true, if the dev had so much money, they don't need to raise donations.

okay, i have to admit it lacks of distributions, some of people have to much NXT coins and this is seems not fair with only 21btc they hold a lot
but Etherium have similar case isn't it?, vitalik do hold so much, and no one complaining?
no one hate etherium, if there is a comparisons it is only for motivation to be better,  etherium lucky to have the hype.

i believe in the future more project with real use case will be implemented in ARDOR blockchain/NXT.

what i remember = NEM, Waves (sorry if im mistaken)


legendary
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thank you for the link. i found what i was looking for.

nsc.nxt.org

according to this list i have more than 60 NSC.

and it looks like there was no payout since March 25, 2017.
sr. member
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i have a hallmarked node. where can i check if i already earned a reward. i did not receive a single one of this special reward coin and want to know why.

Hi, do you mean the lucky node lottery? Do you see your node in peerexplorer.com list?

nope. from the lottery i receive coins. the last time today.

i thought that you get a reward for a hallmark node. maybe i just have not enough coins.



You must be talking about NSC? The person who runs distribution of NSC doesn't visit this thread, you should ask here: https://nxtforum.org/monetary-system-153/%28nsc%29-ms-nxt-security-coin-supporting-nxt-hallmarked-nodes/
legendary
Activity: 1498
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i have a hallmarked node. where can i check if i already earned a reward. i did not receive a single one of this special reward coin and want to know why.

Hi, do you mean the lucky node lottery? Do you see your node in peerexplorer.com list?

nope. from the lottery i receive coins. the last time today.

i thought that you get a reward for a hallmark node. maybe i just have not enough coins.

sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
i have a hallmarked node. where can i check if i already earned a reward. i did not receive a single one of this special reward coin and want to know why.

Hi, do you mean the lucky node lottery? Do you see your node in peerexplorer.com list?
legendary
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I'm a speculator of course. But I do install and test wallets, wanna send some to corroborate? What does that have to do with the matters at hand and with the fact that NXT/Ardor is a very small side show market valuewise with respect to Ethereum?

As thing are NXT is just a meaningless anecdote compared to the the Ethereum universe. To even pretend that NXT or any evolution of it, will be superior in any way is just absurd lip service impossible to corroborate for the sheer volume of transactions in one network and the other are light years apart.

But I am not here t sing the hallelujahs of Ethereum, but to state the limitations of Nxt/ardor... beyond it's technology, that I accept as valid and viable. The problem is adoption. And the fact is that unfortunately, it remains stagnant, even in this golden era of fiat investment in the crypto world, so pretending the tech is superior, which is arguable at best, bears no relevance to that fact.

NXT is proven technology and stable already for YEARS, almost never had problems, the originator of POS and shuffle, and many features,
most of their roadmap is completed (of which all its ideas being followed by all the others AGAIN)

the founder didn't greedy to take as many bitcoin he could do if compared to all the other ICO, because when it reach 21btc it's stopped(none of us understand why he do that), at that time all the other ico takes 7000 or more bitcoins.

what do you expect 21btc could do in terms of marketing? (it was 1btc = 200usd before)
and look... with that funding it proofs NXT still alive and kicking, and be respected, be  the most copied coins by many other projects (they tweak and rebrand NXT)
this also raise questions to all the others with huge fundings, seems lots of money never the solutions? NXT do have very committed developers

You have a couple of things wrong: The people developing this project not only own millions (many) of NXT but tens of millions of ARDR. Money is NOT a problem, they have it by the boatloads.

Which projects copy NXT, specifically? Give names. I think you have that quite wrong also.

And a bit of history: In the beginning, no one wanted NXT (too complicated). Afterwards, many people appreciated the tech in it, the ability to handle an exchange where anything could be exchanged. And all those people -me included- bought into it in spite of the fact that only like 70 people owned more than 90% of the project. More recently, they got even greedier -but in a very smart way- and doubled their money with this smart scheme that is naming the next version of NXT Ardor and giving themselves -and the other owners- the tokens for free while bringing them to the market... guess what, it worked. Chapeau. They doubled their money overnight. Problem is that the project remains a "cult" one, kind of thing: Converts like it a lot (with good reasons) but the rest of crypto -and much more the general population-, consider (those rare ones that have even heard of it) a small sideshow that will never be implemented in the real world where blockchains have become a household name attached, mainly, to Ethereum. Which is being implemented in hundreds and hundreds of real world projects -as well as thousands of crypto ones- as we speak. The inability of the team to sell their tech to the real world is evident.

As for "never the solutions" what "solutions" that NXT have are you talking about, that are not fully implemented in, for instance, ETH, DASH or even LISK?
legendary
Activity: 1498
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i have a hallmarked node. where can i check if i already earned a reward. i did not receive a single one of this special reward coin and want to know why.
sr. member
Activity: 638
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Supporter of DGB, XEM

I'm a speculator of course. But I do install and test wallets, wanna send some to corroborate? What does that have to do with the matters at hand and with the fact that NXT/Ardor is a very small side show market valuewise with respect to Ethereum?

As thing are NXT is just a meaningless anecdote compared to the the Ethereum universe. To even pretend that NXT or any evolution of it, will be superior in any way is just absurd lip service impossible to corroborate for the sheer volume of transactions in one network and the other are light years apart.

But I am not here t sing the hallelujahs of Ethereum, but to state the limitations of Nxt/ardor... beyond it's technology, that I accept as valid and viable. The problem is adoption. And the fact is that unfortunately, it remains stagnant, even in this golden era of fiat investment in the crypto world, so pretending the tech is superior, which is arguable at best, bears no relevance to that fact.

NXT is proven technology and stable already for YEARS, almost never had problems, the originator of POS and shuffle, and many features,
most of their roadmap is completed (of which all its ideas being followed by all the others AGAIN)

the founder didn't greedy to take as many bitcoin he could do if compared to all the other ICO, because when it reach 21btc it's stopped(none of us understand why he do that), at that time all the other ico takes 7000 or more bitcoins.

what do you expect 21btc could do in terms of marketing? (it was 1btc = 200usd before)
and look... with that funding it proofs NXT still alive and kicking, and be respected, be  the most copied coins by many other projects (they tweak and rebrand NXT)
this also raise questions to all the others with huge fundings, seems lots of money never the solutions? NXT do have very committed developers
legendary
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I am not knowledgeable enough to dispute it so I won't.

I figured that out, you're a speculator. You don't install and test wallets to see for yourself.

I'm a speculator of course. But I do install and test wallets, wanna send some to corroborate? What does that have to do with the matters at hand and with the fact that NXT/Ardor is a very small side show market valuewise with respect to Ethereum?

As thing are NXT is just a meaningless anecdote compared to the the Ethereum universe. To even pretend that NXT or any evolution of it, will be superior in any way is just absurd lip service impossible to corroborate for the sheer volume of transactions in one network and the other are light years apart.

But I am not here t sing the hallelujahs of Ethereum, but to state the limitations of Nxt/ardor... beyond it's technology, that I accept as valid and viable. The problem is adoption. And the fact is that unfortunately, it remains stagnant, even in this golden era of fiat investment in the crypto world, so pretending the tech is superior, which is arguable at best, bears no relevance to that fact.
legendary
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I am not knowledgeable enough to dispute it so I won't.

I figured that out, you're a speculator. You don't install and test wallets to see for yourself.

And he don't read or do not understand how Ardor will be different to Nxt Smiley Troll confirmed, don't waste a time with him Smiley
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I'd recommend you start from reading this: https://www.jelurida.com/ardor-nxt-feature-comparison and this https://www.jelurida.com/ardor-blockchain-platform-design

It's not a wall of text, so when you'll read these two links, come back and we could talk further. Thank you.
nice one, lovely ardor and ignis,
when later NXT have their own devm apart from ardor

will NXT Foundation still be a NXT Foundation?
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