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Quote from: landomata on February 03, 2014, 02:08:19 AM

@James

You mentioned that a part of your NxtCommunityfund will be paid on marketing....you should initiate this immediately....we run two separate marketing campaigns.

Let both marketing campaigns compete to product more results for Nxt.

IMHO there needs to be one consolidated NXT marketing plan AND it needs to be written out on a Google spreadsheet AND it needs to have cost per thousand impressions (CPM) estimates for each line AND this spreadsheet needs to be out there and commented on in the main thread before any treasurer issues another NXT for marketing expenses. IMHO.

However, if James directs this, then I will disburse as authorized. Like he has for this 75K NXT for crazy-expensive $75 CPM audio spots over in another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412243.new#new

Can I please see some +1s ?

BitcoinForumator

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Quote from: google98 on February 03, 2014, 07:30:31 AM

Which events will trigger a nxt increase in value?

RL usage at shops, being able to pay for RL services - economy. So far there is a negligible amount of this.

NXT only has so far to go by people investing for speculation (thinking future will be bright).

For me there are 2 worlds - one is this closed online community and the other is when you shut down your computer and see what kind of relevance NXT has there - at this point it's next to none.

Yes people are developing software to make this possible but if the transition to RL doesn't happen all the effort is futile.

I'm missing shops and services that take NXT as a payment option.

landomata

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Awesome... let me tell you... I am really curious to see how you guys are going to implement Nxt Mobile Applications Co. in the Asset Exchange.

I have had difficulty understanding how shares could be implemented in what you offer... but it is getting a little bit clearer now that you said Nxt Mobile Applications Co. might be the owner of a few Service Providers.

We will generate shares (Asset) on Asset Exchange by paying 1000 Nxt for example 1 million shares.....then those shares will get sent to our company account same like funds....then we will issue a sellOrder on Asset Exchange @ at specific price ...maybe 10 Nxt for example.....now anyone can go on the Asset Exchange and buy those shares paying 10 Nxt per share....the money from the share sale will go to the company account where it will be used to grow the company.

Once an investor buy those shares then the shares will magically show up in their account...now they are shareholders of the company...and can work for the company if they want or can trade the shares if they want.

google98

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Which events will trigger a nxt increase in value?

TF has been activated at block 30k, how is it going to be further developed (or: what is still missing?)?

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Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 07:11:50 AM

So who are your proposed treasurers? People that the community will trust, but at the same time don't want to be on any of the committee and also willing to give up their identity and address.

Can you name even 1?

Ok, Ok, fine. I retract my objection.

Let's pick 3 stakeholders as lesser of N other evils.

jl777

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Quote from: NxtChg on February 03, 2014, 07:08:58 AM

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 06:58:49 AM

Quote from: NxtChg on February 03, 2014, 06:48:50 AM

It would be difficult to do for people who exposed their real names and addresses, so I don't think it's an issue here.

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I am not saying it's a requirement, duh...

I am saying, some people already did, one way or another (by going to events, etc).

So who are your proposed treasurers? People that the community will trust, but at the same time don't want to be on any of the committee and also willing to give up their identity and address.

Can you name even 1?

James

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Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 06:58:49 AM

Quote from: NxtChg on February 03, 2014, 06:48:50 AM

It would be difficult to do for people who exposed their real names and addresses, so I don't think it's an issue here.

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I am not saying it's a requirement, duh...

I am saying, some people already did, one way or another (by going to events, etc).

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Quote from: notsoshifty on February 03, 2014, 06:33:41 AM

Quote from: martismartis on February 03, 2014, 05:28:05 AM

JRE version: 7.0_25-b30
Java VM: OpenJDK Zero VM (23.7-b01 mixed mode linux-arm)
Core dump written. Default location :/home/ubuntu/Desktop/nxt/core or core.18388

Does Oracle's version install, and if so does it still crash at that point?

Now I'm stuck at the Oracle java install. Cannot find package to install from terminal. Sad

Any hint. Tryed sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-jdk, but this package is not found. Using ubuntu saucy. Any hint?

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Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 06:50:14 AM

Its 4am, I am tired. I am hoping that some other people can help with this effort to approve klee, pouncer, bybitcoin and neer.g as treasurers who will be providing escrow service for the unclaimed NXT

It is not a perfect solution, but we need to release those funds sooner rather than later. This proposal has a very good chance to pass and thus give us the resources we need to battle against emunie, etherium, etc.

Please keep in mind that it is the three committees that will decide how to spend the funds. The treasurers are just providing escrow service

James

Independence in this context, feels valueless. The position of treasurer is merely functional, and matters not if someone is independent or not. So on balance, why introduce the risk of flight when you dont have to? Approve the above, if only for expediency. The committee can vote to change in the future if necessary.

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Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 06:28:52 AM

Quote from: NxtChg on February 03, 2014, 06:24:17 AM

Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 06:15:47 AM

The BIG deal is that any treasurer cannot be in any of the committees. THAT is a big deal as we need to get people who are not the founders to put their stamp on NXT.

I see the problem, but can't we find 3 people who will voluntarily give up their sits on committees?

We should strive for more decentralization, that's why I am in favor of independent trustees.

Why should we lose those 3? They will probably be guys like Anon who should be drafted onto the tech committee. Do you understand what the treasurers responsibility and authority is?

They are told that the committee has decided to give a bounty for project X to acct # and they send the NXT to that acct.

That's it. Purely escrow service for the committees.

I don't want to waste talented people that should be on committees for this. I am amazed that the founders are willing to do this! After all, here they are, millionaires volunteering to be told what to do. Letting new blood come in and help shape NXT

This is really a very positive thing.

I can save if you're interested, I have business up in the Spanish forum

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Quote from: NxtChg on February 03, 2014, 06:48:50 AM

It would be difficult to do for people who exposed their real names and addresses, so I don't think it's an issue here.

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Quote from: NxtChg on February 03, 2014, 06:48:50 AM

Quote from: abctc on February 03, 2014, 06:43:59 AM

Quote from: NxtChg on February 03, 2014, 06:37:31 AM

Anyone else thinks independent trustees are better than original stakeholders?

- I think, that it is more chances that independent "trustee" steal the NXT, than that founder does.

It would be difficult to do for people who exposed their real names and addresses, so I don't think it's an issue here.

So you are putting up three theoretical candidates who would be willing to not be on any committees and perform escrow service AND to reveal their real names and addresses.

And these hypothetical three are up against the founders that were instrumental in getting NXT to where it is today?

If you want to propose an alternate slate of treasurers, I have no problems in having the community vote between the two slates. The founders have earned the trust of the community and have no need to divulge their identity.

Who are the three that you propose and you need to make sure they agree to giving up their identity and location since flight risk would exist for them.

James

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Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 06:50:14 AM

Please keep in mind that it is the three committees that will decide how to spend the funds. The treasurers are just providing escrow service

James

+1

jl777

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Its 4am, I am tired. I am hoping that some other people can help with this effort to approve klee, pouncer, bybitcoin and neer.g as treasurers who will be providing escrow service for the unclaimed NXT

It is not a perfect solution, but we need to release those funds sooner rather than later. This proposal has a very good chance to pass and thus give us the resources we need to battle against emunie, etherium, etc.

Please keep in mind that it is the three committees that will decide how to spend the funds. The treasurers are just providing escrow service

James

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Quote from: abctc on February 03, 2014, 06:43:59 AM

Quote from: NxtChg on February 03, 2014, 06:37:31 AM

Anyone else thinks independent trustees are better than original stakeholders?

- I think, that it is more chances that independent "trustee" steal the NXT, than that founder does.

It would be difficult to do for people who exposed their real names and addresses, so I don't think it's an issue here.

NxtChg

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Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 06:39:15 AM

Would you be so kind as to retract your objection? This might not be the perfect solution, but I strongly believe it is the best practical solution that we can actually make happen.

Let's just take time out for awhile and see what other people think.

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Quote from: NxtChg on February 03, 2014, 06:37:31 AM

Anyone else thinks independent trustees are better than original stakeholders?

- I think, that it is more chances that independent "trustee" steal the NXT, than that founder does.

landomata

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I believe we should give priority to Service Providers.

me too....The Nxt Mobile Applications Co. was gonna try and implement this feature ourselves we were planning to make it a major point in our IPO.

jl777

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Quote from: NxtChg on February 03, 2014, 06:37:31 AM

Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 06:28:52 AM

That's it. Purely escrow service for the committees.

I don't want to waste talented people that should be on committees for this. I am amazed that the founders are willing to do this! After all, here they are, millionaires volunteering to be told what to do. Letting new blood come in and help shape NXT

This is really a very positive thing.

And that would be great. Unfortunately, we live in the real word, where things sometime don't work out as we wanted them to be...

Anyone else thinks independent trustees are better than original stakeholders? If not, I guess, no point discussing it anymore, we just going in circles.

Would you be so kind as to retract your objection? This might not be the perfect solution, but I strongly believe it is the best practical solution that we can actually make happen.

James

NxtChg

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Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 06:28:52 AM

That's it. Purely escrow service for the committees.

I don't want to waste talented people that should be on committees for this. I am amazed that the founders are willing to do this! After all, here they are, millionaires volunteering to be told what to do. Letting new blood come in and help shape NXT

This is really a very positive thing.

And that would be great. Unfortunately, we live in the real word, where things sometime don't work out as we wanted them to be...

Anyone else thinks independent trustees are better than original stakeholders? If not, I guess, no point discussing it anymore, we just going in circles.

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