NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 1146.

bitcoinpaul

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Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 05:20:51 AM

Pouncer's Proposal was three different accounts, one for each treasurer.

Marketing = 3 million
infrastructure = 1 million or cost to deploy hubs needed for 1000TPS
tech = ~6 million - infrastructure

James

Right.

Guys and Gals, let's do this!

w4llace

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Keep politics out of Nxt. It will only divide people.

OMG, why are people so near-sighted? Every decision has a ethical component. Just not taking care of the energy-consumption of cryptocurrencies doesn't makes this blindness unpolitical. You can't live in this world without taking place in a causal chain!

Pouncer

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Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 05:18:04 AM

Will there be one account for 3 guys or 3 guys with respectively 1/3 funds in their accounts?

If distribution (ratio) of the unclaimed funds has already been decided, then I think it's easier to let each handle one fund (Easier for accountability and record keeping).
If distribution of unclaimed funds has not been decided, and it's going to be another long debate over it, I suggest divide it equally and they will reallocate once the ration has been decided.

NxtChg

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 03, 2014, 04:02:09 AM

Quote from: pinarello on February 03, 2014, 03:57:56 AM

I propose they cut off a finger and send it to me by mail.

Fingerprints is an obsolete technology. Retina scanners all the way!

But... but... this means I can only vote twice? Cry

Come-from-Beyond

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@ AE client devs:

http://holms.cloudapp.net:6874/nxt?requestType=getTrades&asset=7684392128795615477&firstIndex=0&lastIndex=1000

can be used to get trades of a particular asset. If firstIndex or lastIndex r omitted then default values of 0 and 2147483647 will be used.

dzarmush

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Guys, how do you think, are there 10M "unclaimed" coins actually exist? Maybe it's just a BCNext's stake which he is giving up to the community just to make us stronger, pick trusted memebrs, decide what to do with the funds etc.

Passion_ltc

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Quote from: Passion_ltc on February 03, 2014, 04:29:04 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 03, 2014, 03:09:47 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 03, 2014, 01:23:06 AM

Quote from: pinarello on February 02, 2014, 03:11:05 PM

Quote from: marcus03 on February 02, 2014, 03:08:20 PM

Quote from: pinarello on February 02, 2014, 03:05:57 PM

Result AM contest:

1) passion_ltc     55 (23.9%) 50,000 NXT to 13337237365691622237
2) Minusbalancer     53 (23%) 30,000 NXT to 5687942189255392308
3) landomata (Nxtty Messenger) 42 (18.3%) 20,000 NXT to 485245472715464717

4) Marcus03     21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 1758531264253431177
4) nxtru     21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 6488861056876578743
4) getfun12345     21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 5693933960808456307
5) scor2k     17 (7.4%) 15,000 NXT to 13506390574400724639

Total Voters: 230 Shocked

Pretty strange result... I had like 4 votes just a few hours ago...

I know something strange happend... but can we find ourselves in the results?

I got a proof that one guy offered to fake the result by using a lot of sockpuppet accounts. He asked for part of the reward. We shouldn't use reward polls next time.

This time I'll send 22'857 NXT to each account.

DONE

Thank you very much. I think it's a shame that this happened.

I will create a vote system the next days based on transactions.

The vote creator can choose the following optional parameters to prevent fakes:
- NXT amount (e.g. a NXT account is only able to vote if he holds 500 NXT)
- Account age (e.g. a NXT account is only able to vote if the first transaction is older than 10 days)

I won't use the 1NXT=1Vote system, but I won't use the 1acc=1vote system either. I think I will use a modified root function so that small account holders have a few votes (e.g. 2), medium account holders have a few more votes (e.g. 5) and big account holders have again a few more votes (e.g. 7)

I will look into the mathematics tomorrow.

It will work in the way, that the account owner has to send 1 NXT to an automatic created NXT ID where only I have the password for.

These NXTs will be used for advertisements on reddit for /r/Nxt and the whole Nxt ecosystem.

I hope that this will be used.. I will just do it, because currently we are talking to much, instead of doing it.

Edit: Regarding the votes, maybe I will do it like this: Each new place of the NXT amount will give 1 new vote. Example:

5 NXT brings 1 vote
67 NXT brings 2 votes
862 NXT brings 3 votes
5349 NXT brings 4 votes
96432 NXT brings 5 votes

And so on..

Good news, swartzfeger is so kind and will give me the domain nxtvote.com.

I will use it for the voting system. In this way no service of mine will get into the way.

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 05:16:27 AM

Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 05:09:23 AM

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 05:07:45 AM

Ok, we need 3 founders who are trustworthy and we don't want in the 'subcommittees'.

klee, neer.g, bybitcoin with Pouncer as alternate in case one of the first three decline.

NXT community, 2 days to object to any of the proposed treasurers. Please provide good reason for any objection.

At the end of 2 days, assuming no objections, we will have treasurers for the unclaimed NXT, minus previously committed amounts which CfB will continue to administer.

CfB, please confirm this is acceptable

James

Looks good.

jl777

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Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 05:18:04 AM

Will there be one account for 3 guys or 3 guys with respectively 1/3 funds in their accounts?

Pouncer's Proposal was three different accounts, one for each treasurer.

Marketing = 3 million
infrastructure = 1 million or cost to deploy hubs needed for 1000TPS
tech = ~6 million - infrastructure

James

dzarmush

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Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 05:18:04 AM

Will there be one account for 3 guys or 3 guys with respectively 1/3 funds in their accounts?

I think 3 separate accounts in more secured than 1 account.

jl777

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Quote from: pinarello on February 03, 2014, 05:14:35 AM

Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 05:09:23 AM

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 05:07:45 AM

Ok, we need 3 founders who are trustworthy and we don't want in the 'subcommittees'.

klee, neer.g, Pouncer, bybitcoin

I think one of these will decline, leaving three. If not, top three stakeholders

shall we vote in the other thread

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4905549

This is not a vote. It is a call for objections to any of the four proposed treasurers. 2 days is plenty of time. Any objection needs to have a good reason.

Pouncer agreed to be the alternate, so the slate is bybitcoin, klee and neer.g

James

bitcoinpaul

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Will there be one account for 3 guys or 3 guys with respectively 1/3 funds in their accounts?

jl777

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Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 05:09:23 AM

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 05:07:45 AM

Ok, we need 3 founders who are trustworthy and we don't want in the 'subcommittees'.

klee, neer.g, bybitcoin with Pouncer as alternate in case one of the first three decline.

NXT community, 2 days to object to any of the proposed treasurers. Please provide good reason for any objection.

At the end of 2 days, assuming no objections, we will have treasurers for the unclaimed NXT, minus previously committed amounts which CfB will continue to administer.

CfB, please confirm this is acceptable

James

Pouncer

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Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 05:09:23 AM

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 05:07:45 AM

Ok, we need 3 founders who are trustworthy and we don't want in the 'subcommittees'.

klee, neer.g, Pouncer, bybitcoin

I think one of these will decline, leaving three. If not, top three stakeholders

No need stakeholder ranking. I can be backup if any of the other 3 declines.

Edit: no need voting. Based on "Consensus by NO Objection" method. We already have 3. I will act as backup (only if any one declines)

pinarello

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NXT is the future

Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 05:09:23 AM

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 05:07:45 AM

Ok, we need 3 founders who are trustworthy and we don't want in the 'subcommittees'.

klee, neer.g, Pouncer, bybitcoin

I think one of these will decline, leaving three. If not, top three stakeholders

shall we vote in the other thread

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4905549

landomata

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Quote from: dzarmush on February 03, 2014, 05:09:19 AM

But they're not stupid and ignorant, right? If devs say that the network needs more nodes they'll listen and give funds for that.

Committee is just a trusted people who keep funds and send them when something comes up. They don't have to set up nodes.

makes sense

bitcoinpaul

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Quote from: Labteck on February 03, 2014, 05:10:57 AM

This will have a tragic end, as usual.
Send the money to the genesis void and end with this stupid burocracy.

Wtf, please leave this room.

Labteck

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This will have a tragic end, as usual.
Send the money to the genesis void and end with this stupid burocracy.

jl777

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Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 05:07:45 AM

Ok, we need 3 founders who are trustworthy and we don't want in the 'subcommittees'.

klee, neer.g, Pouncer, bybitcoin

I think one of these will decline, leaving three. If not, top three stakeholders

dzarmush

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Quote from: landomata on February 03, 2014, 05:04:11 AM

Quote from: dzarmush on February 03, 2014, 05:02:11 AM

Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 04:41:20 AM

Quote from: landomata on February 03, 2014, 04:36:15 AM

Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 04:34:44 AM

Then please change the name. subcommittee means it is subject to the main committee, not the other way around. Words mean things, stuff like this can be easily misinterpreted

lets not get stuckup on semantics...but I agree

Thanks. Can we agree on "Trusted 7" (or N if we end up with something other than 7)
and just "Marketing committee", "Tech committee" and "Infrastructure committee"

This would clearly indicate that the Trusted 7 are holding the funds but the committees are independently deciding how to spend the funds

See no reason in "Infrastructure committee" as well as in "Marketing committee" and "Tech committee". Seven (or five) people is enough to make a decision on any reason.

Specialization....each committee will be specialized in what it does.....marketing guys don't really know about infrastructure etc.

But they're not stupid and ignorant, right? If devs say that the network needs more nodes they'll listen and give funds for that.

Committee is just a trusted people who keep funds and send them when something comes up. They don't have to set up nodes.

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