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Ok, we need 3 founders who are trustworthy and we don't want need in the 'subcommittees'.
Then please change the name. subcommittee means it is subject to the main committee, not the other way around. Words mean things, stuff like this can be easily misinterpreted
lets not get stuckup on semantics...but I agree
and just "Marketing committee", "Tech committee" and "Infrastructure committee"
This would clearly indicate that the Trusted 7 are holding the funds but the committees are independently deciding how to spend the funds
See no reason in "Infrastructure committee" as well as in "Marketing committee" and "Tech committee". Seven (or five) people is enough to make a decision on any matter.
Then please change the name. subcommittee means it is subject to the main committee, not the other way around. Words mean things, stuff like this can be easily misinterpreted
lets not get stuckup on semantics...but I agree
and just "Marketing committee", "Tech committee" and "Infrastructure committee"
This would clearly indicate that the Trusted 7 are holding the funds but the committees are independently deciding how to spend the funds
See no reason in "Infrastructure committee" as well as in "Marketing committee" and "Tech committee". Seven (or five) people is enough to make a decision on any reason.
Specialization....each committee will be specialized in what it does.....marketing guys don't really know about infrastructure etc.
There has to be some debate on my proposal. I must have made some mistakes somewhere. Does everybody agree with this:
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Proposal for Unclaimed NXT
I suggest we put up a slate of 7 trusted members that the thread discussing this will recommend. Then we put it up for an up or down vote.
If approved, the unclaimed NXT are divided among the trusted 7. They will be obligated to disburse funds that are approved by a marketing committee (3 Million NXT) and a tech committee (5 Million NXT) and an infrastructure committee (1 Million Nxt).
The election to the marketing, tech and infrastructure committees are independent from the decentralization of the unclaimed NXT. This means we can independently figure out who is on the three different committees and as soon as one group is formed, projects can be funded.
The community has already decided on 250,000 NXT per month for Marketing, so the marketing committee task is to figure out how best to allocate that budget.
tech and infrastructure committees have not formed yet, but we don't need to figure out all the details for getting the trusted 7 members in place.
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James
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Proposal for Unclaimed NXT
I suggest we put up a slate of 7 trusted members that the thread discussing this will recommend. Then we put it up for an up or down vote.
If approved, the unclaimed NXT are divided among the trusted 7. They will be obligated to disburse funds that are approved by a marketing committee (3 Million NXT) and a tech committee (5 Million NXT) and an infrastructure committee (1 Million Nxt).
The election to the marketing, tech and infrastructure committees are independent from the decentralization of the unclaimed NXT. This means we can independently figure out who is on the three different committees and as soon as one group is formed, projects can be funded.
The community has already decided on 250,000 NXT per month for Marketing, so the marketing committee task is to figure out how best to allocate that budget.
tech and infrastructure committees have not formed yet, but we don't need to figure out all the details for getting the trusted 7 members in place.
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James
Nice idea. But we should leave this to the committee. If they fuck up, they fuck up.
I retract my statement. I don't have an opinion on this.
Can we agree on "Trusted 7" (or N if we end up with something other than 7)
and just "Marketing committee", "Tech committee" and "Infrastructure committee"
This would clearly indicate that the Trusted 7 are holding the funds but the committees are independently deciding how to spend the funds
and just "Marketing committee", "Tech committee" and "Infrastructure committee"
This would clearly indicate that the Trusted 7 are holding the funds but the committees are independently deciding how to spend the funds
No. Let's pretend we have 12 trustworthy (that's a lot) and capable nominees when we vote. 7 go straight to the Trusted 7 (in no particular order. maybe all our marketing guys are in it). This leaves us with 5 random guys who maybe have no clue about marketing, dev, or infrastructure. And the Trusted 7 sitting there, brilliant things in their mind, and nothing happens.
Wrong?
This is my simplified suggestion.
Select 3 founders to be treasurers for the unclaimed funds.
One to hold marketing, tech & infra respectively.
Treasurers will not sit in any committee
Make this selection simple & fast by putting up 3 names and waiting for no objection (1-2 days) period. Any objections should be followed by a good reason. I suggest jl777 propose the 3 names.
Once this is settled, we can do the nomination/election process for the 3 committees.
What this will solve:
1. Unlikely for founders to "run away" with the trusted funds.
2. They will be in for the long haul
3. They voluntarily give up their right to decide on the usage of funds. Founders will not be seen as monopolising the decision making process, thereby pleasing the opponents of 1NXT = 1Vote to a certain extend.
4. Gives more opportunities to other stakeholders to participate in building up Nxt.
Select 3 founders to be treasurers for the unclaimed funds.
One to hold marketing, tech & infra respectively.
Treasurers will not sit in any committee
Make this selection simple & fast by putting up 3 names and waiting for no objection (1-2 days) period. Any objections should be followed by a good reason. I suggest jl777 propose the 3 names.
Once this is settled, we can do the nomination/election process for the 3 committees.
What this will solve:
1. Unlikely for founders to "run away" with the trusted funds.
2. They will be in for the long haul
3. They voluntarily give up their right to decide on the usage of funds. Founders will not be seen as monopolising the decision making process, thereby pleasing the opponents of 1NXT = 1Vote to a certain extend.
4. Gives more opportunities to other stakeholders to participate in building up Nxt.
Less is more. I like it.
What about 5-7 guys, sitting on unclaimed funds, making polls about bounties (or not). Simple. If they run away: shit happens. Don't make it too complicated. They put ideas to discussion for the community, they make polls, blahblahblah...
This is my simplified suggestion.
Select 3 founders to be treasurers for the unclaimed funds.
One to hold marketing, tech & infra respectively.
Treasurers will not sit in any committee
Make this selection simple & fast by putting up 3 names and waiting for no objection (1-2 days) period. Any objections should be followed by a good reason. I suggest jl777 propose the 3 names.
Once this is settled, we can do the nomination/election process for the 3 committees.
What this will solve:
1. Unlikely for founders to "run away" with the trusted funds.
2. They will be in for the long haul
3. They voluntarily give up their right to decide on the usage of funds. Founders will not be seen as monopolising the decision making process, thereby pleasing the opponents of 1NXT = 1Vote to a certain extend.
4. Gives more opportunities to other stakeholders to participate in building up Nxt.
If the founders are willing to do this, then that would certainly be the best solution! It is much better than my proposal. It even creates a positive PR event!Select 3 founders to be treasurers for the unclaimed funds.
One to hold marketing, tech & infra respectively.
Treasurers will not sit in any committee
Make this selection simple & fast by putting up 3 names and waiting for no objection (1-2 days) period. Any objections should be followed by a good reason. I suggest jl777 propose the 3 names.
Once this is settled, we can do the nomination/election process for the 3 committees.
What this will solve:
1. Unlikely for founders to "run away" with the trusted funds.
2. They will be in for the long haul
3. They voluntarily give up their right to decide on the usage of funds. Founders will not be seen as monopolising the decision making process, thereby pleasing the opponents of 1NXT = 1Vote to a certain extend.
4. Gives more opportunities to other stakeholders to participate in building up Nxt.
I have not been here the whole time, so I am not sure that I am the right person to select the Trusted Trinity, but I would say three out of klee, bybitcoin, neer.g and of course Pouncer. I am not sure the availability of the four. If all four are able and willing, then the ones with the biggest stakes left.
James
Then please change the name. subcommittee means it is subject to the main committee, not the other way around. Words mean things, stuff like this can be easily misinterpreted
lets not get stuckup on semantics...but I agree
and just "Marketing committee", "Tech committee" and "Infrastructure committee"
This would clearly indicate that the Trusted 7 are holding the funds but the committees are independently deciding how to spend the funds
See no reason in "Infrastructure committee" as well as in "Marketing committee" and "Tech committee". Seven (or five) people is enough to make a decision on any matter.
This is my simplified suggestion.
Select 3 founders to be treasurers for the unclaimed funds.
One to hold marketing, tech & infra respectively.
Treasurers will not sit in any committee
Make this selection simple & fast by putting up 3 names and waiting for no objection (1-2 days) period. Any objections should be followed by a good reason. I suggest jl777 propose the 3 names.
Once this is settled, we can do the nomination/election process for the 3 committees.
What this will solve:
1. Unlikely for founders to "run away" with the trusted funds.
2. They will be in for the long haul
3. They voluntarily give up their right to decide on the usage of funds. Founders will not be seen as monopolising the decision making process, thereby pleasing the opponents of 1NXT = 1Vote to a certain extend.
4. Gives more opportunities to other stakeholders to participate in building up Nxt.
Select 3 founders to be treasurers for the unclaimed funds.
One to hold marketing, tech & infra respectively.
Treasurers will not sit in any committee
Make this selection simple & fast by putting up 3 names and waiting for no objection (1-2 days) period. Any objections should be followed by a good reason. I suggest jl777 propose the 3 names.
Once this is settled, we can do the nomination/election process for the 3 committees.
What this will solve:
1. Unlikely for founders to "run away" with the trusted funds.
2. They will be in for the long haul
3. They voluntarily give up their right to decide on the usage of funds. Founders will not be seen as monopolising the decision making process, thereby pleasing the opponents of 1NXT = 1Vote to a certain extend.
4. Gives more opportunities to other stakeholders to participate in building up Nxt.
I second this
You *really* take the cake, eat it, shit it out and eat it again. So you think that by insulting someone the rest of the valid arguments become invalid? Hahaa that's a fallacy fallacy. Cute, long time since I seen it
And if you read my post you will already know that I raped and impregnated your reasoning on the matter. You actually thought that the consensus had shifted from global warming to climate change because of "record lows". You don't even understand rudimentary science and then you want to discredit 97% of experts? Jesus... And I already told you why I brought up consensus, Dzar was SPECIFICALLY asking for it. I never said "Global warming is true due to consensus" so that's just a strawman fallacy to accompany your other fallacies.
The fact that you bring up the Nazi argument is just so funny that Occam Razor force me to think you are at roll.
I will never ever answer another message from you.
Lol. Okay then. http://youtu.be/0gDErDwXqhc
This Uniqueorn clown is in my ignor list for a long time already, and seeing some of his latest messages through your quotes, I think I made the right decision
I think Uniqueorn is a smart, reasonable and valued member of the community.
There has to be some debate on my proposal. I must have made some mistakes somewhere. Does everybody agree with this:
**************
Proposal for Unclaimed NXT
I suggest we put up a slate of 7 trusted members that the thread discussing this will recommend. Then we put it up for an up or down vote.
If approved, the unclaimed NXT are divided among the trusted 7. They will be obligated to disburse funds that are approved by a marketing committee (3 Million NXT) and a tech committee (5 Million NXT) and an infrastructure committee (1 Million Nxt).
The election to the marketing, tech and infrastructure committees are independent from the decentralization of the unclaimed NXT. This means we can independently figure out who is on the three different committees and as soon as one group is formed, projects can be funded.
The community has already decided on 250,000 NXT per month for Marketing, so the marketing committee task is to figure out how best to allocate that budget.
tech and infrastructure committees have not formed yet, but we don't need to figure out all the details for getting the trusted 7 members in place.
**************
James
**************
Proposal for Unclaimed NXT
I suggest we put up a slate of 7 trusted members that the thread discussing this will recommend. Then we put it up for an up or down vote.
If approved, the unclaimed NXT are divided among the trusted 7. They will be obligated to disburse funds that are approved by a marketing committee (3 Million NXT) and a tech committee (5 Million NXT) and an infrastructure committee (1 Million Nxt).
The election to the marketing, tech and infrastructure committees are independent from the decentralization of the unclaimed NXT. This means we can independently figure out who is on the three different committees and as soon as one group is formed, projects can be funded.
The community has already decided on 250,000 NXT per month for Marketing, so the marketing committee task is to figure out how best to allocate that budget.
tech and infrastructure committees have not formed yet, but we don't need to figure out all the details for getting the trusted 7 members in place.
**************
James
Nice idea. But we should leave this to the committee. If they fuck up, they fuck up.
I retract my statement. I don't have an opinion on this.
Can we agree on "Trusted 7" (or N if we end up with something other than 7)
and just "Marketing committee", "Tech committee" and "Infrastructure committee"
This would clearly indicate that the Trusted 7 are holding the funds but the committees are independently deciding how to spend the funds
and just "Marketing committee", "Tech committee" and "Infrastructure committee"
This would clearly indicate that the Trusted 7 are holding the funds but the committees are independently deciding how to spend the funds
No. Let's pretend we have 12 trustworthy (that's a lot) and capable nominees when we vote. 7 go straight to the Trusted 7 (in no particular order. maybe all our marketing guys are in it). This leaves us with 5 random guys who maybe have no clue about marketing, dev, or infrastructure. And the Trusted 7 sitting there, brilliant things in their mind, and nothing happens.
Wrong?
This is my simplified suggestion.
Select 3 founders to be treasurers for the unclaimed funds.
One to hold marketing, tech & infra respectively.
Treasurers will not sit in any committee
Make this selection simple & fast by putting up 3 names and waiting for no objection (1-2 days) period. Any objections should be followed by a good reason. I suggest jl777 propose the 3 names.
Once this is settled, we can do the nomination/election process for the 3 committees.
What this will solve:
1. Unlikely for founders to "run away" with the trusted funds.
2. They will be in for the long haul
3. They voluntarily give up their right to decide on the usage of funds. Founders will not be seen as monopolising the decision making process, thereby pleasing the opponents of 1NXT = 1Vote to a certain extend.
4. Gives more opportunities to other stakeholders to participate in building up Nxt.
Select 3 founders to be treasurers for the unclaimed funds.
One to hold marketing, tech & infra respectively.
Treasurers will not sit in any committee
Make this selection simple & fast by putting up 3 names and waiting for no objection (1-2 days) period. Any objections should be followed by a good reason. I suggest jl777 propose the 3 names.
Once this is settled, we can do the nomination/election process for the 3 committees.
What this will solve:
1. Unlikely for founders to "run away" with the trusted funds.
2. They will be in for the long haul
3. They voluntarily give up their right to decide on the usage of funds. Founders will not be seen as monopolising the decision making process, thereby pleasing the opponents of 1NXT = 1Vote to a certain extend.
4. Gives more opportunities to other stakeholders to participate in building up Nxt.
the Fellowship.... ...one committee to rule them all.
...one committee to rule them all.Aye, so we could call them The Dwarf-lords, coz
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...Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone...
Edit: The ratio of tech to infrastructure should be changed to make sure we can fund the hubs to support 1000TPS
Reply from Bittylicious - I am keeping on at them and trading on their site...
They may even let me offload my QRK for GBP in which case I can buy more NXT
From Marc@Bittylicious
They may even let me offload my QRK for GBP in which case I can buy more NXT
From Marc@Bittylicious
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Hi,
I would like to offer NXT at some point, and in fact have the NXT client running, but allowing it to be sold would involve some development effort at the back end so it can't go live in the very near future.
Marc
I would like to offer NXT at some point, and in fact have the NXT client running, but allowing it to be sold would involve some development effort at the back end so it can't go live in the very near future.
Marc
I just designed and 3d-printed a NXT-keychain
I posted some pictures including Nxt client screen shot, Nxt Key chain at my weibo ( http://weibo.com/nxtpi ) today, and then got a comment suggesting to distribute some key chain to the users for marketing and promotion Nxt.
I think it's a good idea to print/manufacture the Nxt logo Key chain and distribute them with the flyers in the following conference.
I can provide the 3d files or do some modifications on the design if you want.
Result AM contest:
1) passion_ltc 55 (23.9%) 50,000 NXT to 13337237365691622237
2) Minusbalancer 53 (23%) 30,000 NXT to 5687942189255392308
3) landomata (Nxtty Messenger) 42 (18.3%) 20,000 NXT to 485245472715464717
4) Marcus03 21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 1758531264253431177
4) nxtru 21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 6488861056876578743
4) getfun12345 21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 5693933960808456307
5) scor2k 17 (7.4%) 15,000 NXT to 13506390574400724639
Total Voters: 230
1) passion_ltc 55 (23.9%) 50,000 NXT to 13337237365691622237
2) Minusbalancer 53 (23%) 30,000 NXT to 5687942189255392308
3) landomata (Nxtty Messenger) 42 (18.3%) 20,000 NXT to 485245472715464717
4) Marcus03 21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 1758531264253431177
4) nxtru 21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 6488861056876578743
4) getfun12345 21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 5693933960808456307
5) scor2k 17 (7.4%) 15,000 NXT to 13506390574400724639
Total Voters: 230
Pretty strange result... I had like 4 votes just a few hours ago...
I know something strange happend... but can we find ourselves in the results?
I got a proof that one guy offered to fake the result by using a lot of sockpuppet accounts. He asked for part of the reward. We shouldn't use reward polls next time.
This time I'll send 22'857 NXT to each account.
DONE
Thank you very much. I think it's a shame that this happened.
+1
Thank you very much.
the Fellowship.... ...one committee to rule them all.
...one committee to rule them all.Aye, so we could call them The Dwarf-lords, coz
Quote
...Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone...
lmao the Fellowship.... ...one committee to rule them all.
...one committee to rule them all.Aye, so we could call them The Dwarf-lords, coz
Quote
...Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone...
PS: I feel myself as Frodo...
You *really* take the cake, eat it, shit it out and eat it again. So you think that by insulting someone the rest of the valid arguments become invalid? Hahaa that's a fallacy fallacy. Cute, long time since I seen it
And if you read my post you will already know that I raped and impregnated your reasoning on the matter. You actually thought that the consensus had shifted from global warming to climate change because of "record lows". You don't even understand rudimentary science and then you want to discredit 97% of experts? Jesus... And I already told you why I brought up consensus, Dzar was SPECIFICALLY asking for it. I never said "Global warming is true due to consensus" so that's just a strawman fallacy to accompany your other fallacies.
The fact that you bring up the Nazi argument is just so funny that Occam Razor force me to think you are at roll.
I will never ever answer another message from you.
Lol. Okay then. http://youtu.be/0gDErDwXqhc
This Uniqueorn clown is in my ignor list for a long time already, and seeing some of his latest messages through your quotes, I think I made the right decision
This would clearly indicate that the Trusted 7 are holding the funds but the committees are independently deciding how to spend the funds
Chosen ones...
the Fellowship....
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