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I think it will look good to outsiders. Millionaire founders agree to obey the decisions of committees selected by the community. Committee members are chosen based on merit and not by how much NXT they have.

Just what part of that looks bad?

James

First of all I didn't finished completely, because of this error. I'd like to get rid of this problem and run everything smooth. So then I'll write some tutorial (never did that). It still 3 days I'm working on it, few times I wanted to resign from this thing, but I'll not surrender

Short tutorial:

1) install ubuntu on tv stick
2) install java in ubuntu
3) BUMP error. Worked for me till 22000 block

Then we would need to find a new treasurer. Not a big problem is it? In any case we already have one alternate, so this only becomes an issue if two people decide not to. However, these guys have the most to gain by spending to improve NXT, so they are the least likely to bail.

+1

And what if one day they decide they don't feel like doing it anymore?

Also, how do you think it's gonna look to outsiders?

Doesn't help.

The treasurers will NOT be getting any funds. They are just there to send the NXT as directed by the respective committees. There are no arbitrary decisions being made. The infrastructure cost will be estimated by probably both tech and infrastructure committees and then the 6 million will be allocated accordingly.

nxtchg, please understand that we have to decide on a Process to deal with unclaimed funds. The treasurers will have no say in how the money is spent. Separation of decision making from access to funds.

If you want to participate in the marketing committee then you can. But it is not appropriate for you to derail the entire process because you don't agree with one of the decisions made. We are talking about Process now. Not any specific spending decision. I know you are the worlds best programmer, but are you also the worlds best marketer? Please do not tangle up specific spending decisions of an area outside your sphere with the process.

Do you have any objections with klee or neer.g or bybitcoin or Pouncer being the ones who are responsible to disburse the NXT when directed by the respective committee?

James

“Strive to make proposed solutions as self-executing as possible. As the degree of discretion increases, so too does bureaucracy, delay, and expense.”
-“Bureaucracy is the death of all sound work”
-“Bureaucracy is the art of making the possible impossible”
-“In any bureaucracy, paper work increases as you spend more and more time reporting on the less and less you are doing”
-“You will never understand bureaucracies until you understand that for bureaucrats procedure is everything and outcomes are nothing.”

Is it safe to come out now ?

This is just gonna be a very quick post, then back into my nice safe trench to get some work done.

I was stupid. Sorry,
I really thought that if i proposed a carbon-offset project that had almost nothing to do with the C02/anthropogenic global warming issue, that we could both promote NXT and do some good in the wider world. Reforestation and cleaner cooking tech for the developing world, how evil is that?

Well, we all saw how that turned out. I think that, as a European, I really don't get how divisive this issue is for the US.
I know that if I walked into a marketing meeting in any Euro-based business and made the same proposal, everyone would yawn and tell me that they'd done that last year and could I come up with something original. It's just so not an issue here......

But I'm not going to give up on the core idea: get some good publicity/marketing for NXT via green issues and/or doing good things.
I'm  going to go thru all of the feedback I've had, (positive + negative) and see if we can work something out that keeps all sides happy.
Or close to happy. I'm willing to discuss every aspect of my proposal, given some constructive feedback.

If anyone still feels the need to call me a mealy-mouthed, environmentalist, commie Al Gore on a mission to guilt trip everyone for being human and steal all of your money to give to abortion clinics, I'll be back on in a few hours. Save it till then.........

A bureaucracy is "a body of nonelective government officials" and/or "an administrative policy-making group."[1] Historically, bureaucracy referred to government administration managed by departments staffed with nonelected officials.[2] In modern parlance, bureaucracy refers to the administrative system governing any large institution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureaucracy

Can you make a tutorial when you manage to let this work?
Maybe I can do it too then. Cool!

What the hell is "infrastructure fund"? Why money is being juggled so easily?

That 1 million will appreciate significantly if we do things right, so why such arbitrary decisions are taken so lightly?  

That should be a part of tech and tech will decide how much is needed to support the network, not some arbitrary round number.

And I want a fiscal conservative, like rickyjames to have at least a veto power, so we won't burn through all this money in a month! This radio deal we've got into so quickly doesn't look particularly bright.


Also, giving the rich more money in addition to their original stakes doesn't seem right. At least for outsiders it won't look good, we already have the distribution accusations...

I would rather see an independent trustees, who are not the original stakeholders.

We need decentralization, not concentration of power in the hands of a few.

Yep, also if the marketing campaign is successful (and this lies in your own hands) then even 1M NXT will be SO MUCH money. The NXT amount you have should be enough for years to come.

block 22000 sounds familiar. Was it aliases that kicked in? Maybe buffer overflow from a long alias string?

Try again several times.

No. community already decided on 3 million. Plus I have a LOT of new tech ideas that will require funding that will make the marketing money go a lot further

James....lets increase marketing funds by 50% ...make it cool 4.5 million....1.5 can be used in 2nd year.

Marketing has been decided at 3 million
Tech/Infrastructure the remaining 6 million. Once we know the cost for the 1000TPS hubs, then we will know the right allocation between tech and infrastructure.

Hi NXTers

I'm still trying to runs NRS on android TV stick. I'm at 99% of work done. Ubuntu is running, Java installed. OK:

1. Started start.jar without any .nxt. Everything went smooth until block 22001, then java aborted.
2. Copied .nxt files from my other PC to the stick, started java.jar and after "Scanning blockchain..." BUMP, error is something like this:

A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime environment:

Internal error (os_linux_zero.cpp:285). pid=10388, tid=1090630768
fatal error: caught unhandled signal 11

JRE version: 7.0_25-b30
Java VM: OpenJDK Zero VM (23.7-b01 mixed mode linux-arm)
Core dump written. Default location :/home/ubuntu/Desktop/nxt/core or core.18388

Any thoughts from dev how to get rid of this problem?

agree