This would clearly indicate that the Trusted 7 are holding the funds but the committees are independently deciding how to spend the funds
Chosen ones...
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This would clearly indicate that the Trusted 7 are holding the funds but the committees are independently deciding how to spend the funds
Chosen ones...
Warning
I withdrew Nxt from the Poloniex exchange and didn't receive them. Instead I read in my withdrawalhistory "EMAIL SENT".
I did not get my Nxt and I also didn't get any email.
be careful with Poloniex.com
edit: all is fine. there was some error with my mailaccount.
Poloniex.com is a good exchange and could have more traders.
I withdrew Nxt from the Poloniex exchange and didn't receive them. Instead I read in my withdrawalhistory "EMAIL SENT".
I did not get my Nxt and I also didn't get any email.
be careful with Poloniex.com
edit: all is fine. there was some error with my mailaccount.
Poloniex.com is a good exchange and could have more traders.
This would clearly indicate that the Trusted 7 are holding the funds but the committees are independently deciding how to spend the funds
Let's do fisrt things first. Cfb doesn't want to keep the money, so we need someone else. We need to choose several people and send them equal parts. Then decide how to spend the funds.
pls see link it's underway
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-community-nominations-to-the-funding-comittee-445209
Been there, posted there.
I'm just saying that there's no much to discuss. There was a poll and the result was that the committee make decisions how to spend funds. So let's vote for the committee members and let them decide.
you have to nominate a name....then after a few days we will collect the most names into a proper open poll for the Funding Committee
I see enough trusted people in the first post.
Then please change the name. subcommittee means it is subject to the main committee, not the other way around. Words mean things, stuff like this can be easily misinterpreted
lets not get stuckup on semantics...but I agree
and just "Marketing committee", "Tech committee" and "Infrastructure committee"
This would clearly indicate that the Trusted 7 are holding the funds but the committees are independently deciding how to spend the funds
The problem Uniqueorn, is that real science is NOT done by consensus. If that were the case, then we'd still think that the earth was at the center of the universe... I could go on and on with examples of why consensus has no place in the scientific method. Furthermore, I need to point out the MASSIVE incentive governments have in paying scientists to come up with the statistics they want people to see. Don't you see just what kind of money is involved in 'carbon taxing' every single person on earth?... Right now we're seeing record low temperatures all over the world. They changed 'global warming' to 'climate change', and I'm sorry... but the earth's climate has been changing for something like 4.5 billion years.
I could go on and on. The main thing is: real science isn't done by consensus.
and second: If people want to agree that the earth's climate is changing in a negative way, that's fine. Just DON'T steal peoples money through taxation in an attempt to fix the problem. It won't work. Yeah, plant some trees or something. But FORCE is NEVER the answer.
I could go on and on. The main thing is: real science isn't done by consensus.
and second: If people want to agree that the earth's climate is changing in a negative way, that's fine. Just DON'T steal peoples money through taxation in an attempt to fix the problem. It won't work. Yeah, plant some trees or something. But FORCE is NEVER the answer.
I am going to copy/paste and save it, this is a really good reply.
Are you serious? Wasn't it enough already?
The problem Uniqueorn, is that real science is NOT done by consensus. If that were the case, then we'd still think that the earth was at the center of the universe... I could go on and on with examples of why consensus has no place in the scientific method. Furthermore, I need to point out the MASSIVE incentive governments have in paying scientists to come up with the statistics they want people to see. Don't you see just what kind of money is involved in 'carbon taxing' every single person on earth?... Right now we're seeing record low temperatures all over the world. They changed 'global warming' to 'climate change', and I'm sorry... but the earth's climate has been changing for something like 4.5 billion years.
I could go on and on. The main thing is: real science isn't done by consensus.
and second: If people want to agree that the earth's climate is changing in a negative way, that's fine. Just DON'T steal peoples money through taxation in an attempt to fix the problem. It won't work. Yeah, plant some trees or something. But FORCE is NEVER the answer.
I could go on and on. The main thing is: real science isn't done by consensus.
and second: If people want to agree that the earth's climate is changing in a negative way, that's fine. Just DON'T steal peoples money through taxation in an attempt to fix the problem. It won't work. Yeah, plant some trees or something. But FORCE is NEVER the answer.
I am going to copy/paste and save it, this is a really good reply.
Let's do fisrt things first. Cfb doesn't want to keep the money, so we need someone else. We need to choose several people and send them equal parts. Then decide how to spend the funds.
pls see link it's underway
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-community-nominations-to-the-funding-comittee-445209
Been there, posted there.
I'm just saying that there's no much to discuss. There was a poll and the result was that the committee make decisions how to spend funds. So let's vote for the committee members and let them decide.
you have to nominate a name....then after a few days we will collect the most names into a proper open poll for the Funding Committee
I see enough trusted people in the first post.
I will just do it, because currently we are talking to much, instead of doing it.
I agree, I'm sick of all the interleaved convos with no results. Guys, at the very least, split off topics in separate threads and link to it here.
Haven't checked out nxtion yet, but I will after you implement the voting feature
But after I created groups or groupdiscussions for nxtion I can add it there as well.
Then please change the name. subcommittee means it is subject to the main committee, not the other way around. Words mean things, stuff like this can be easily misinterpreted
lets not get stuckup on semantics...but I agree
Let's do fisrt things first. Cfb doesn't want to keep the money, so we need someone else. We need to choose several people and send them equal parts. Then decide how to spend the funds.
pls see link it's underway
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-community-nominations-to-the-funding-comittee-445209
Been there, posted there.
I'm just saying that there's no much to discuss. There was a poll and the result was that the committee make decisions how to spend funds. So let's vote for the committee members and let them decide.
you have to nominate a name....then after a few days we will collect the most names into a proper open poll for the Funding Committee
I will just do it, because currently we are talking to much, instead of doing it.
I agree, I'm sick of all the interleaved convos with no results. Guys, at the very least, split off topics in separate threads and link to it here.
Haven't checked out nxtion yet, but I will after you implement the voting feature
I think we are saying almost the same thing. I see it more as the trusted members are there to hold the funds and disburse it when the subcommittees approve it. The "Funding Committee" should NOT be above the subcommittees. Otherwise the conflict of interest could happen. The trusted 7 need to be separate from the subcommittees, NOT above.
Separation of deciding and access to funds. It is common sense
They will be separate....funding committee can;t tell subcommittees how to spend their funds.
Let's do fisrt things first. Cfb doesn't want to keep the money, so we need someone else. We need to choose several people and send them equal parts. Then decide how to spend the funds.
pls see link it's underway
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-community-nominations-to-the-funding-comittee-445209
Been there, posted there.
I'm just saying that there's no much to discuss. There was a poll and the result was that the committee make decisions how to spend funds. So let's vote for the committee members and let them decide.
Upd: committee, subcommittee, shmabcommitee. Why people love to make everything so complicated...
The vote creator can choose the following optional parameters to prevent fakes:
- NXT amount (e.g. a NXT account is only able to vote if he holds 500 NXT)
- Account age (e.g. a NXT account is only able to vote if the first transaction is older than 10 days)
I won't use the 1NXT=1Vote system, but I won't use the 1acc=1vote system either. I think I will use a modified root function so that small account holders have a few votes (e.g. 2), medium account holders have a few more votes (e.g. 5) and big account holders have again a few more votes (e.g. 7)
I will look into the mathematics tomorrow.
It will work in the way, that the account owner has to send 1 NXT to an automatic created NXT ID where only I have the password for.
These NXTs will be used for advertisements on reddit for /r/Nxt and the whole Nxt ecosystem.
I hope that this will be used.. I will just do it, because currently we are talking to much, instead of doing it.
can't wait to see it.
I think we are saying almost the same thing. I see it more as the trusted members are there to hold the funds and disburse it when the subcommittees approve it. The "Funding Committee" should NOT be above the subcommittees. Otherwise the conflict of interest could happen. The trusted 7 need to be separate from the subcommittees, NOT above.
Separation of deciding and access to funds. It is common sense
They will be separate....funding committee can;t tell subcommittees how to spend their funds.
I think people will prefer less steps and not being charged to vote
Result AM contest:
1) passion_ltc 55 (23.9%) 50,000 NXT to 13337237365691622237
2) Minusbalancer 53 (23%) 30,000 NXT to 5687942189255392308
3) landomata (Nxtty Messenger) 42 (18.3%) 20,000 NXT to 485245472715464717
4) Marcus03 21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 1758531264253431177
4) nxtru 21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 6488861056876578743
4) getfun12345 21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 5693933960808456307
5) scor2k 17 (7.4%) 15,000 NXT to 13506390574400724639
Total Voters: 230
1) passion_ltc 55 (23.9%) 50,000 NXT to 13337237365691622237
2) Minusbalancer 53 (23%) 30,000 NXT to 5687942189255392308
3) landomata (Nxtty Messenger) 42 (18.3%) 20,000 NXT to 485245472715464717
4) Marcus03 21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 1758531264253431177
4) nxtru 21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 6488861056876578743
4) getfun12345 21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 5693933960808456307
5) scor2k 17 (7.4%) 15,000 NXT to 13506390574400724639
Total Voters: 230
Pretty strange result... I had like 4 votes just a few hours ago...
I know something strange happend... but can we find ourselves in the results?
I got a proof that one guy offered to fake the result by using a lot of sockpuppet accounts. He asked for part of the reward. We shouldn't use reward polls next time.
This time I'll send 22'857 NXT to each account.
DONE
Thank you very much. I think it's a shame that this happened.
I will create a vote system the next days based on transactions.
The vote creator can choose the following optional parameters to prevent fakes:
- NXT amount (e.g. a NXT account is only able to vote if he holds 500 NXT)
- Account age (e.g. a NXT account is only able to vote if the first transaction is older than 10 days)
I won't use the 1NXT=1Vote system, but I won't use the 1acc=1vote system either. I think I will use a modified root function so that small account holders have a few votes (e.g. 2), medium account holders have a few more votes (e.g. 5) and big account holders have again a few more votes (e.g. 7)
I will look into the mathematics tomorrow.
It will work in the way, that the account owner has to send 1 NXT to an automatic created NXT ID where only I have the password for.
These NXTs will be used for advertisements on reddit for /r/Nxt and the whole Nxt ecosystem.
I hope that this will be used.. I will just do it, because currently we are talking to much, instead of doing it.
Edit: Regarding the votes, maybe I will do it like this: Each new place of the NXT amount will give 1 new vote. Example:
5 NXT brings 1 vote
67 NXT brings 2 votes
862 NXT brings 3 votes
5349 NXT brings 4 votes
96432 NXT brings 5 votes
And so on..
Please clarify. Leave what up to the committee? Are you saying to revisit the allocation to marketing? Are you saying to not separate funding decisions from disbursement ability?
James....
Funding Committee: ~ 9 million control
Subcommittee:
1) Marketing: 3,000,000...paid out 250,000k per month.
2) Infrastructure .....to be determined.
3) Tech....to be determined.
SUBCOMMITTES determined their own spending plans.....
Separation of deciding and access to funds. It is common sense
Let's do fisrt things first. Cfb doesn't want to keep the money, so we need someone else. We need to choose several people and send them equal parts. Then decide how to spend the funds.
pls see link it's underway
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nxt-community-nominations-to-the-funding-comittee-445209
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