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jl777

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Quote from: landomata on February 03, 2014, 03:38:55 AM

Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 03:34:06 AM

I think this is a very important issue. I would like to have an open debate over my proposal and then when all voices are heard, I will update the proposal. Then we can have a public vote. This way we can see who is voting and we will be able to make sure there are no sockpuppets.

James

the open vote for committee member will begin soon.

funding committee will decide when they are chosen this should be finalized with 10 days times.

Is there going to be separation of deciding what to spend money on and the people who have access to the funds?

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 03:30:36 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 03, 2014, 03:22:42 AM

Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 03:16:27 AM

Please approve this, or if unacceptable let me know what you don't like and we can modify the process.

I can't approve this coz it's the opinion of one single member of the community.

Ok, so if you are saying if the community approves my proposal, then you will follow it?

James

Sure

landomata

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Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 03:34:06 AM

I think this is a very important issue. I would like to have an open debate over my proposal and then when all voices are heard, I will update the proposal. Then we can have a public vote. This way we can see who is voting and we will be able to make sure there are no sockpuppets.

James

the open vote for Funding committee members will begin soon.

Funding committee will decide when they are chosen this should be finalized within 10 days times.

jl777

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Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 03:30:36 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 03, 2014, 03:22:42 AM

Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 03:16:27 AM

Please approve this, or if unacceptable let me know what you don't like and we can modify the process.

I can't approve this coz it's the opinion of one single member of the community.

Ok, so if you are saying if the community approves my proposal, then you will follow it?

James

I think this is a very important issue. I would like to have an open debate over my proposal and then when all voices are heard, I will update the proposal. Then we can have a public vote. This way we can see who is voting and we will be able to make sure there are no sockpuppets.

James

jl777

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 03, 2014, 03:22:42 AM

Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 03:16:27 AM

Please approve this, or if unacceptable let me know what you don't like and we can modify the process.

I can't approve this coz it's the opinion of one single member of the community.

Ok, so if you are saying if the community approves my proposal, then you will follow it?

James

bitcoinpaul

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 03, 2014, 03:28:15 AM

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 03:23:52 AM

Guys, please...

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 03:13:36 AM

What the... i have no oversight of all the funds and donations and bounties and what ever... could someone clarify what we have, what we might have, who is in charge of what right now and why the hell was I not an investor 2 months ago?

I think it is something like
- 10 or 11 Mio. unclaimed NXT fund (CfB)
- 3 Mio community fund (?)
- ~300k fund (salsacz?)

9'063 kNXT + 10 BTC is controlled by me. Part of this money is already reserved to be spent.

This is the unclaimed NXT fund + 10 BTC for crypto algo review.

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 03:23:52 AM

Guys, please...

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 03:13:36 AM

What the... i have no oversight of all the funds and donations and bounties and what ever... could someone clarify what we have, what we might have, who is in charge of what right now and why the hell was I not an investor 2 months ago?

I think it is something like
- 10 or 11 Mio. unclaimed NXT fund (CfB)
- 3 Mio community fund (?)
- ~300k fund (salsacz?)

9'063 kNXT + 10 BTC is controlled by me. Part of this money is already reserved to be spent.

landomata

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Quote from: CIYAM on February 03, 2014, 03:09:21 AM

Quote from: landomata on February 03, 2014, 03:08:30 AM

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 03:05:32 AM

Only let people vote with accounts from 2nd Feb and older? Don't know if the guys here all have an account yet on nextcoin.

this is one parameter.

So that counts me out straight away (I don't even have an account on that forum).

YOU CAN SIGNUP ON EITHER NEXTCOIN or NXTCRYPTO before the poll start date BUT ONLY IF YOU HAVE POSTED ON THIS THREAD BEFORE FEBRUARY 2nd.2014

And the account name must be the same.....if someone has squatted on your name then pls get in touch with the ADMIN.

THE NAME MUST BE THE EXACT SAME TO QUALIFY.

bitcoinpaul

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Guys, please...

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 03:13:36 AM

What the... i have no oversight of all the funds and donations and bounties and what ever... could someone clarify what we have, what we might have, who is in charge of what right now and why the hell was I not an investor 2 months ago?

I think it is something like
- 10 or 11 Mio. unclaimed NXT fund (CfB)
- 3 Mio community fund (?)
- ~300k fund (salsacz?)

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 03:16:27 AM

Please approve this, or if unacceptable let me know what you don't like and we can modify the process.

I can't approve this coz it's the opinion of one single member of the community.

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: landomata on February 03, 2014, 03:07:47 AM

BCNext said "trust no one on the internet."

He also said not to trust him and here we come to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox

2Kool4Skewl

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Quote from: Coinonaer on February 03, 2014, 01:04:15 AM

welcome on my ignore list Al Gore Fanboy

ROFLMAO!

...took you long enough... Wink

"Inventor of the Internet"

jl777

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 03, 2014, 03:15:15 AM

Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 03:02:31 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 03, 2014, 02:52:29 AM

Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 02:24:17 AM

CfB, you said you would prefer to delegate the management of the 3M NXT for marketing. Have you decided who you will delegate it to?

I need a proof that the community is agree on transferring of this 3M.

What form of proof would you accept? We debated at length about the amount for marketing and my recollection is that 3 million NXT for this year in 12 installments was an amount that very few objected to. There are still debates over exactly how to spend it, but that is a different issue.

I posted numerous times if anybody objects to 3 million NXT for 2014 marketing to post objections and nobody is objecting.

Are you waiting for the selection of the trusted members to transfer the NXT to? I am confused as to what is required for the NXT community to be able to fund the required marketing and additional tech development so that we can make sure to put emunie, etherium, etc. in their rightful places.

James

Explicit confirmations from 51%+ of guys from the committee we r electing is enough, I think. If the others vote for them then they can decide, IMHO.

I strongly suggest separating the people who hold the money and are responsible from disbursing it from the people who decide how the money should be spent.

That is common sense.

James

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Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on February 03, 2014, 03:05:17 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 03, 2014, 03:01:16 AM

Quote from: landomata on February 03, 2014, 02:56:59 AM

the HUBS will need to be high end....I think you should focus on building up the hub infrastructure.

No, it's the community who should focus on building up the hub infrastructure.

How much disk space would a hub need?

Noone knows. It depends on TPS rate and how often u r planning to do the shrinking.

jl777

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CfB,

I suggest we put up a slate of 7 trusted members that the thread discussing this will recommend. Then we put it up for an up or down vote.

If approved, the unclaimed NXT are divided among the trusted 7. They will be obligated to disburse funds that are approved by a marketing committee (3 Million NXT) and a tech committee (5 Million NXT) and an infrastructure committee (1 Million Nxt).

The election to the marketing, tech and infrastructure committees are independent from the decentralization of the unclaimed NXT. This means we can independently figure out who is on the three different committees and as soon as one group is formed, projects can be funded.

The community has already decided on 250,000 NXT per month for Marketing, so the marketing committee task is to figure out how best to allocate that budget.

tech and infrastructure committees have not formed yet, but we don't need to figure out all the details for getting the trusted 7 members in place.

Please approve this, or if unacceptable let me know what you don't like and we can modify the process.

James

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Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 03:02:31 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 03, 2014, 02:52:29 AM

Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 02:24:17 AM

CfB, you said you would prefer to delegate the management of the 3M NXT for marketing. Have you decided who you will delegate it to?

I need a proof that the community is agree on transferring of this 3M.

What form of proof would you accept? We debated at length about the amount for marketing and my recollection is that 3 million NXT for this year in 12 installments was an amount that very few objected to. There are still debates over exactly how to spend it, but that is a different issue.

I posted numerous times if anybody objects to 3 million NXT for 2014 marketing to post objections and nobody is objecting.

Are you waiting for the selection of the trusted members to transfer the NXT to? I am confused as to what is required for the NXT community to be able to fund the required marketing and additional tech development so that we can make sure to put emunie, etherium, etc. in their rightful places.

James

Explicit confirmations from 51%+ of guys from the committee we r electing is enough, I think. If the others vote for them then they can decide, IMHO.

bitcoinpaul

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Quote from: jl777 on February 03, 2014, 03:05:37 AM

Quote from: landomata on February 03, 2014, 03:02:10 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 03, 2014, 03:01:16 AM

Quote from: landomata on February 03, 2014, 02:56:59 AM

the HUBS will need to be high end....I think you should focus on building up the hub infrastructure.

No, it's the community who should focus on building up the hub infrastructure.

Well it is community funds which are in the NxtCommunityfund right.

Well, actually no. The NXTcommunityfund was funded by private donation from aldrin and Pouncer and neer.g, plus another mystery donor. It is named community fund, but it is NOT the unclaimed coins. As a privately funded fund, I have a bit more flexibility in its allocation, but I am always asking for community feedback to guide me.

I remember the unclaimed NXT got increased by 1 million NXT and BCnext said that he expects the community to fund the server infrastructure. My assumption is since those two things happened at the same time, that the 1 million NXT of unclaimed NXT is for server infrastructure

What the... i have no oversight of all the funds and donations and bounties and what ever... could someone clarify what we have, what we might have, who is in charge of what right now and why the hell was I not an investor 2 months ago?

I think it is something like
- 10 or 11 Mio. unclaimed NXT fund (CfB)
- 3 Mio community fund (?)
- ~300k fund (salsacz?)

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 03, 2014, 01:23:06 AM

Quote from: pinarello on February 02, 2014, 03:11:05 PM

Quote from: marcus03 on February 02, 2014, 03:08:20 PM

Quote from: pinarello on February 02, 2014, 03:05:57 PM

Result AM contest:

1) passion_ltc    55 (23.9%) 50,000 NXT to 13337237365691622237
2) Minusbalancer    53 (23%) 30,000 NXT to 5687942189255392308
3) landomata (Nxtty Messenger) 42 (18.3%) 20,000 NXT to 485245472715464717

4) Marcus03    21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 1758531264253431177
4) nxtru    21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 6488861056876578743
4) getfun12345    21 (9.1%) 15,000 NXT to 5693933960808456307
5) scor2k    17 (7.4%) 15,000 NXT to 13506390574400724639

Total Voters: 230 Shocked

Pretty strange result... I had like 4 votes just a few hours ago...

I know something strange happend... but can we find ourselves in the results?

I got a proof that one guy offered to fake the result by using a lot of sockpuppet accounts. He asked for part of the reward. We shouldn't use reward polls next time.

This time I'll send 22'857 NXT to each account.

DONE

CIYAM

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Quote from: landomata on February 03, 2014, 03:08:30 AM

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 03:05:32 AM

Only let people vote with accounts from 2nd Feb and older? Don't know if the guys here all have an account yet on nextcoin.

this is one parameter.

So that counts me out straight away (I don't even have an account on that forum).

landomata

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Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 03, 2014, 03:05:32 AM

Only let people vote with accounts from 2nd Feb and older? Don't know if the guys here all have an account yet on nextcoin.

this is one parameter....and Also Nxtcrypto.org

Poll will run on both forums....only accounts before Feb 2nd. are eligible.

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