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Quote from: Uniqueorn on February 02, 2014, 10:31:02 PM

Quote from: opticalcarrier on February 02, 2014, 10:24:41 PM

Quote from: jl777 on February 02, 2014, 10:18:37 PM

Quote from: Voluntold on February 02, 2014, 10:15:55 PM

Question: Has the voting thing been decided yet? Was it decided 1Nxt=1Vote?

That is what BCnext said it should be

as much as I hate all these voting discussions, I hate the GW crap 100x more. Im glad we can all decide to just let the GW debate end. Regardless of what side a person is on, its just too polarizing to attach to NXT. Sure, energy efficiency, this is good but just dont even mention GW.

Im disappointed with all the swearing and personal attacks from a few of our community members. I hate to say it but going off the deep end like that reminds me of frictionless coin

If you had to go through the same debate over and over again while the other guy is refusing to listen to any arguments, then you would understand the frustration.

Swear words are nothing but collections of letters, science illiteracy is a lot worse.

Actually none side give a shit about the other side agruments and facts. People just exchanged opinions. But the way we had discussion shows that we should stay away from it as far as we can.

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Quote from: Voluntold on February 02, 2014, 10:38:21 PM

If decentralization is the goal, than reputation is the only way to go. Plenty of working real life examples too. Ebay anyone?

yeah but on eBay you can have a bad rep and still sell

Voluntold

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If decentralization is the goal, than reputation is the only way to go. Plenty of working real life examples too. Ebay anyone?

brooklynbtc

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Quote from: Voluntold on February 02, 2014, 10:32:17 PM

Quote from: jl777 on February 02, 2014, 10:18:37 PM

Quote from: Voluntold on February 02, 2014, 10:15:55 PM

Question: Has the voting thing been decided yet? Was it decided 1Nxt=1Vote?

That is what BCnext said it should be

Hmm.. Well I have a suggestion. Please go easy on me because I'm no programmer and have no idea what could actually be done. However I was thinking... With 1Nxt=1Vote I still feel like although PoS helps against a large entity attacking the network via 51% attack, if a large entity wanted to, they could still cause a problem with voting. So I was thinking perhaps it would be possible to implement reputation into it. I heard that maybe some kind of reputation system was being set up for the decentralized exchange. Well if it would be possible to add reputation to the 1Nxt=1Vote method, that would solve a huge problem. Or maybe at the very least make it so that time-the-account-has-been-open/unlocked is a factor. Like I said, I'm not a programmer and have no idea how to implement it or how we could set up the specific mathematics of it, however I feel like it's an idea worth exploring, if it hasn't been already.

but who decides if your "reputation" is bad so your votes don't count?

sounds like disenfranchisement to me.

rep is about trustworthy for trades, and is very arbitrary. if someone thinks you were rude, your rep can suffer, now you cant vote??

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Quote from: jl777 on February 02, 2014, 10:18:37 PM

Quote from: Voluntold on February 02, 2014, 10:15:55 PM

Question: Has the voting thing been decided yet? Was it decided 1Nxt=1Vote?

That is what BCnext said it should be

I agree. Vote weight definitely should depend on a stake. I'd say not fully proportional, but since there is no way to change proportions it should be 1 Nxt = 1 Vote. All stake holders want the same - great future for Nxt. And initial stakeholders probably want it even more than anybody else

Why would they vote for something that may hurt Nxt.

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Quote from: jl777 on February 02, 2014, 10:18:37 PM

Quote from: Voluntold on February 02, 2014, 10:15:55 PM

Question: Has the voting thing been decided yet? Was it decided 1Nxt=1Vote?

That is what BCnext said it should be

Hmm.. Well I have a suggestion. Please go easy on me because I'm no programmer and have no idea what could actually be done. However I was thinking... With 1Nxt=1Vote I still feel like although PoS helps against a large entity attacking the network via 51% attack, if a large entity wanted to, they could still cause a problem with voting. So I was thinking perhaps it would be possible to implement reputation into it. I heard that maybe some kind of reputation system was being set up for the decentralized exchange. Well if it would be possible to add reputation to the 1Nxt=1Vote method, that would solve a huge problem. Or maybe at the very least make it so that time-the-account-has-been-open/unlocked is a factor. Like I said, I'm not a programmer and have no idea how to implement it or how we could set up the specific mathematics of it, however I feel like it's an idea worth exploring, if it hasn't been already.

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Quote from: brooklynbtc on February 02, 2014, 10:28:32 PM

Quote from: opticalcarrier on February 02, 2014, 10:24:41 PM

Quote from: jl777 on February 02, 2014, 10:18:37 PM

Quote from: Voluntold on February 02, 2014, 10:15:55 PM

Question: Has the voting thing been decided yet? Was it decided 1Nxt=1Vote?

That is what BCnext said it should be

as much as I hate all these voting discussions, I hate the GW crap 100x more. Im glad we can all decide to just let the GW debate end. Regardless of what side a person is on, its just too polarizing to attach to NXT. Sure, energy efficiency, this is good but just dont even mention GW.

Im disappointed with all the swearing and personal attacks from a few of our community members. I hate to say it but going off the deep end like that reminds me of frictionless coin

Hey OC, I agree especially from Snr members, forum admins, etc. but I think everyone is getting antsy waiting for clients, updates, and to the moon!

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Quote from: opticalcarrier on February 02, 2014, 10:24:41 PM

Quote from: jl777 on February 02, 2014, 10:18:37 PM

Quote from: Voluntold on February 02, 2014, 10:15:55 PM

Question: Has the voting thing been decided yet? Was it decided 1Nxt=1Vote?

That is what BCnext said it should be

as much as I hate all these voting discussions, I hate the GW crap 100x more. Im glad we can all decide to just let the GW debate end. Regardless of what side a person is on, its just too polarizing to attach to NXT. Sure, energy efficiency, this is good but just dont even mention GW.

Im disappointed with all the swearing and personal attacks from a few of our community members. I hate to say it but going off the deep end like that reminds me of frictionless coin

If you had to go through the same debate over and over again while the other guy is refusing to listen to any arguments, then you would understand the frustration.

Swear words are nothing but collections of letters, science illiteracy is a lot worse.

brooklynbtc

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Quote from: opticalcarrier on February 02, 2014, 10:24:41 PM

Quote from: jl777 on February 02, 2014, 10:18:37 PM

Quote from: Voluntold on February 02, 2014, 10:15:55 PM

Question: Has the voting thing been decided yet? Was it decided 1Nxt=1Vote?

That is what BCnext said it should be

as much as I hate all these voting discussions, I hate the GW crap 100x more. Im glad we can all decide to just let the GW debate end. Regardless of what side a person is on, its just too polarizing to attach to NXT. Sure, energy efficiency, this is good but just dont even mention GW.

Im disappointed with all the swearing and personal attacks from a few of our community members. I hate to say it but going off the deep end like that reminds me of frictionless coin

Hey OC, I agree especially from Snr members, forum admins, etc. but I think everyone is getting antsy waiting for clients, updates, and to the moon!

sunday night jitters

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Quote from: brooklynbtc on February 02, 2014, 10:24:18 PM

Quote from: jl777 on February 02, 2014, 10:18:37 PM

Quote from: Voluntold on February 02, 2014, 10:15:55 PM

Question: Has the voting thing been decided yet? Was it decided 1Nxt=1Vote?

That is what BCnext said it should be

Thus spoke Saint NCnext, Thus it shall be

"Roma locuta, causa finita!"

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Quote from: jl777 on February 02, 2014, 10:18:37 PM

Quote from: Voluntold on February 02, 2014, 10:15:55 PM

Question: Has the voting thing been decided yet? Was it decided 1Nxt=1Vote?

That is what BCnext said it should be

as much as I hate all these voting discussions, I hate the GW crap 100x more. Im glad we can all decide to just let the GW debate end. Regardless of what side a person is on, its just too polarizing to attach to NXT. Sure, energy efficiency, this is good but just dont even mention GW.

Im disappointed with all the swearing and personal attacks from a few of our community members. I hate to say it but going off the deep end like that reminds me of frictionless coin

brooklynbtc

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AKA jefdiesel

Quote from: jl777 on February 02, 2014, 10:18:37 PM

Quote from: Voluntold on February 02, 2014, 10:15:55 PM

Question: Has the voting thing been decided yet? Was it decided 1Nxt=1Vote?

That is what BCnext said it should be

Thus spoke Saint NCnext, Thus it shall be

jl777

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Quote from: Voluntold on February 02, 2014, 10:15:55 PM

Question: Has the voting thing been decided yet? Was it decided 1Nxt=1Vote?

That is what BCnext said it should be

Voluntold

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Question: Has the voting thing been decided yet? Was it decided 1Nxt=1Vote?

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Quote from: EvilDave on February 02, 2014, 09:49:43 PM

Quote from: IveBeenBit on February 02, 2014, 09:37:45 PM

Quote from: EvilDave on February 02, 2014, 09:28:01 PM

That went well.....not! Huh

I'm now going to re-post the carbon-offset proposal with all of the GW-related material censored, which was only about 10% of my original post.

I think you should scratch your carbon offsets in favor of something less controversial. A proposal for subsidies to provide free abortions to the less fortunate? It will probably be less divisive. Cheesy

Imagine the marketing opportunity if we had abortion clinics that accepted Nxt as payment. Grin

That sounds like a laugh, but no.

Heres an idea....someone else come up with a marketing project that can have as much of an impact in terms of free publicity (if handled right) as mine and I'll listen. Might even read it.....

#1 rule in marketing is: "Test small and then roll out big!"

Test your marketing idea on a small scale and prove that it works then bring the results back n show it to everyone and your voice will be a lot louder and you will be easily heard and you will have a better chance of getting your funding.

Tai Zen

EvilDave

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Quote from: brooklynbtc on February 02, 2014, 09:55:20 PM

Quote from: EvilDave on February 02, 2014, 09:49:43 PM

Quote from: IveBeenBit on February 02, 2014, 09:37:45 PM

Quote from: EvilDave on February 02, 2014, 09:28:01 PM

That went well.....not! Huh

I'm now going to re-post the carbon-offset proposal with all of the GW-related material censored, which was only about 10% of my original post.

I think you should scratch your carbon offsets in favor of something less controversial. A proposal for subsidies to provide free abortions to the less fortunate? It will probably be less divisive. Cheesy

Imagine the marketing opportunity if we had abortion clinics that accepted Nxt as payment. Grin

That sounds like a laugh, but no.

Heres an idea....someone else come up with a marketing project that can have as much of an impact in terms of free publicity (if handled right) as mine and I'll listen. Might even read it.....

Hey ED

I think your idea is great, but I do think its an ace to be saved in our sleeves. We will always be low power. Bitcoin will always be high power.

I have an idea for marketing, low cost, and will be directly trackable so Sgt RickyJames will be able to determine the (agreeably valuable CPC)

I have Wesley working on a faucet, QBTC sent me graphics, but I need a graphic designer to help put together the cards.

Please have a read and LET ME KNOW you think

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3441.msg32673.html#msg32673

I like it. Damelon has a promising link with some design dudes, maybe he could get these sorted out as a priority.
Now i really am going to bed, I'll have a better look later in the am.

xyzzyx

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I don't really come from outer space.

Quote from: xyzzyx on February 01, 2014, 02:55:54 PM

Got one of these the other day:

It's a GSM modem. So I wrote a little program to test it out. A proof-of-concept, really.

Send a SMS text to [removed]* and account # 16228559550138619285 will copy it into the blockchain as an AM payload. You can use NXTArea's AM Explorer to view.

I only plan to have it up for a short time as this is just a test.

I'll release the code under the GPLv3 in a little bit after I do some cleanup. It's a mess at the moment.

BUMP

Four SMS messages in total were received and placed into the blockchain.

*Edit: test was completed at 2:00GMT on 3rd of Feb. 2014.

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Quote from: Uniqueorn on February 02, 2014, 09:52:42 PM

Quote from: Voluntold on February 02, 2014, 09:49:53 PM

So I guess Uniqueorn put me on ignore... Guess he doesn't want another person helping with Swarming just because I don't agree with him on GW. An issue that has very little to do with Nxt. He insulted me numerous times, and I didn't even insult him once.

I'd sure trust this guy to be in management like positions in my company *sarcasm*

Omg you're such a fucking baby. Infact we have 31 swarmers at this point, the goal and funding only reaches for 30.
So if we're going to add more SWARMers I'll first have to ask the funder of this project.

I would never let a idiot interfere with my professionalism in terms of finding a job. But eventhough swarming is pretty straight forward, I do have to keep in mind what sort of people are on my SWARMing team.

Like I said: I am already in talks with authors about climate change + NXT and this will be articles we will organize SWARMings for. We can't then ahve a guy like you shouting at the author.

I'm not going to shout at any authors. Remember that YOU were the one to originally push the global warming issue on here saying something like "I can't let this one go". If you want to promote Nxt to people who believe in GW, be my guest. I don't believe that will hurt Nxt. I just won't participate in the articles specifically aimed at GW and Nxt. I completely agree that PoS should be touted as being more energy efficient. It's great, it lowers cost tremendously. I just don't like the idea of promoting it as some huge global warming savior, that appeals to a crowd that USUALLY is all for stealing money in the name of 'mother earth'. Stealing is definitely a principle I won't cast aside.

EvilDave

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Going to bed...4.00 am.
Hope u guys can see through the whole GW smokescreen on the issue and see the possibilities of the carbon-offset idea.

brooklynbtc

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Quote from: EvilDave on February 02, 2014, 09:49:43 PM

Quote from: IveBeenBit on February 02, 2014, 09:37:45 PM

Quote from: EvilDave on February 02, 2014, 09:28:01 PM

That went well.....not! Huh

I'm now going to re-post the carbon-offset proposal with all of the GW-related material censored, which was only about 10% of my original post.

I think you should scratch your carbon offsets in favor of something less controversial. A proposal for subsidies to provide free abortions to the less fortunate? It will probably be less divisive. Cheesy

Imagine the marketing opportunity if we had abortion clinics that accepted Nxt as payment. Grin

That sounds like a laugh, but no.

Heres an idea....someone else come up with a marketing project that can have as much of an impact in terms of free publicity (if handled right) as mine and I'll listen. Might even read it.....

Hey EvilDave

I think your idea is great, but I do think its an ace to be saved in our sleeves. We will always be low power. Bitcoin will always be high power.

I have an idea for marketing, low cost, and will be directly trackable so Sgt RickyJames will be able to determine the (agreeably valuable) CPC

I have Wesley working on a faucet, QBTC sent me graphics, but I need a graphic designer to help put together the cards.

Please have a read and LET ME KNOW you think

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3441.msg32673.html#msg32673

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