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vanea84

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Quote from: Damelon on January 16, 2014, 03:27:00 PM

Quote from: vanea84 on January 16, 2014, 03:13:42 PM

Quote from: gbeirn on January 16, 2014, 02:53:42 PM

Quote from: vanea84 on January 16, 2014, 02:50:23 PM

Why vote makes no unfair social media.
You call a couple of people that the community is all about?

That decide for everyone

Why not conduct a fair vote social media?

Unfortunately creating a Facebook page and paying for fake 'Likes' doesn't really help the community at all.

I bought a coupon promotion Facebook

I understand, but if I create a poll why not fair?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4547740

I wish the community is not honest, not surprisingly but the price falls to the nxt, unfair to the community

Community will pay for marketing, why can not I pay for Facebook?

I do not require rewards me hurt why not create a valid vote

I'll try to explain once, in case you truly do not understand.

"Bought" likes means "likes" that have not chosen to see the messages.
It's basically a kind of "facebook spam"

People dislike spam and when they see Nxt on their timeline they will be much more likely to think that Nxt is a spamming coin and not join.

Even if you thought you were really helping, you were not. The thought is appreciated, the way you did it was, well, just not good.

As to the vote: only sites that have been around for a while (before 3 january) were put in.

I'm sorry if you feel that is unfair, but those are the reasons that I see.

Stepping through the advertising platform Facebook, brings good results

wesleyh

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Quote from: wesleyh on January 16, 2014, 03:22:00 PM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 16, 2014, 12:00:40 PM

Quote from: wesleyh on January 16, 2014, 11:46:29 AM

Ok, so two versions found:

https://github.com/swdunlop/WaspVM/blob/ce71767f5eea8d3768c7aba376c65ce8a13fdc73/vm/curve25519_i64.c
(looks to be unedited)

and https://github.com/swdunlop/WaspVM/blob/master/vm/curve25519_i64.c

Thank u for the link. Unfortunatelly, it doesn't contain an implementation of EC-KCDSA.

PS: BCNext modified original version of EC-KCDSA to increase requirements to hardware implementations of an Nxt wallet. This was supposed to increase protection of end users. But this also has some disadvantages, like inability to find other source code that does the same thing. I'm not even sure that the original contained such the code.

I don't even know what that means, but the guy just replied to me and I have his code. It seems to be the same as the source linked to, only it adds sign25519 and verify25519 methods. and there is another archive included by Michele Bini. Should I email it to you? what's your email?

Never mind, I've uploaded them to copy.com:

https://copy.com/uOipoZkrpqO6
https://copy.com/sC8yYDyhhLmo

Let me know if this helps?

I haven't asked the guy yet, he may also be appropriate to do a code review? Should I ask him CFB?

Edit: Oh, actually, this was the guy that ported from C to Java - dmitry skiba - not the guy that wrote the C implementation - haven't heard back from him yet.

Damelon

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Quote from: vanea84 on January 16, 2014, 03:13:42 PM

Quote from: gbeirn on January 16, 2014, 02:53:42 PM

Quote from: vanea84 on January 16, 2014, 02:50:23 PM

Why vote makes no unfair social media.
You call a couple of people that the community is all about?

That decide for everyone

Why not conduct a fair vote social media?

Unfortunately creating a Facebook page and paying for fake 'Likes' doesn't really help the community at all.

I bought a coupon promotion Facebook

I understand, but if I create a poll why not fair?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4547740

I wish the community is not honest, not surprisingly but the price falls to the nxt, unfair to the community

Community will pay for marketing, why can not I pay for Facebook?

I do not require rewards me hurt why not create a valid vote

I'll try to explain once, in case you truly do not understand.

"Bought" likes means "likes" that have not chosen to see the messages.
It's basically a kind of "facebook spam"

People dislike spam and when they see Nxt on their timeline they will be much more likely to think that Nxt is a spamming coin and not join.

Even if you thought you were really helping, you were not. The thought is appreciated, the way you did it was, well, just not good.

As to the vote: only sites that have been around for a while (before 3 january) were put in.

I'm sorry if you feel that is unfair, but those are the reasons that I see.

vanea84

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Quote from: gbeirn on January 16, 2014, 02:53:42 PM

Quote from: vanea84 on January 16, 2014, 02:50:23 PM

Why vote makes no unfair social media.
You call a couple of people that the community is all about?

That decide for everyone

Why not conduct a fair vote social media?

Unfortunately creating a Facebook page and paying for fake 'Likes' doesn't really help the community at all.

I bought a coupon promotion Facebook

I understand, but if I create a poll why not fair?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4547740

I wish the community is not honest, not surprisingly but the price falls to the nxt, unfair to the community

Community will pay for marketing, why can not I pay for Facebook?

I do not require rewards me hurt why not create a valid vote

morningtime

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Quote from: morningtime on January 16, 2014, 03:22:24 PM

The 0.5.8 Jean-Luc posted doesn't work for me.

Ok it works, after deleting the .nxt files

wesleyh

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morningtime

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The 0.5.8 Jean-Luc posted doesn't work for me.

Code:

[2014-01-16 21:21:08.958] Loading blocks...
[2014-01-16 21:21:16.137] ...Done
[2014-01-16 21:21:16.138] Scanning blockchain...
[2014-01-16 21:21:16.181] Error initializing Nxt servlet
java.lang.NullPointerException
        at Nxt$Block.analyze(Nxt.java:979)
        at Nxt.init(Nxt.java:6085)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletHolder.initServlet(ServletHolder.jav
a:561)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletHolder.initialize(ServletHolder.java
:351)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.initialize(ServletHandler.ja
va:840)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletContextHandler.startContext(ServletC
ontextHandler.java:300)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.startContext(WebAppContext.jav
a:1347)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ContextHandler.doStart(ContextHandle
r.java:743)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.doStart(WebAppContext.java:492
)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLife
Cycle.java:69)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.ContainerLifeCycle.start(ContainerLi
feCycle.java:117)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.ContainerLifeCycle.addBean(Container
LifeCycle.java:281)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.ContainerLifeCycle.addBean(Container
LifeCycle.java:213)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.ContainerLifeCycle.updateBeans(Conta
inerLifeCycle.java:763)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.HandlerCollection.setHandlers(Handle
rCollection.java:89)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ContextHandlerCollection.setHandlers
(ContextHandlerCollection.java:144)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.HandlerCollection.addHandler(Handler
Collection.java:155)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.deploy.bindings.StandardDeployer.processBinding(Sta
ndardDeployer.java:41)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.deploy.AppLifeCycle.runBindings(AppLifeCycle.java:1
86)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.deploy.DeploymentManager.requestAppGoal(DeploymentM
anager.java:498)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.deploy.DeploymentManager.addApp(DeploymentManager.j
ava:146)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.deploy.providers.ScanningAppProvider.fileAdded(Scan
ningAppProvider.java:180)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.deploy.providers.ScanningAppProvider$1.fileAdded(Sc
anningAppProvider.java:64)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.util.Scanner.reportAddition(Scanner.java:605)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.util.Scanner.reportDifferences(Scanner.java:528)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.util.Scanner.scan(Scanner.java:391)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.util.Scanner.doStart(Scanner.java:313)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLife
Cycle.java:69)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.deploy.providers.ScanningAppProvider.doStart(Scanni
ngAppProvider.java:150)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLife
Cycle.java:69)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.deploy.DeploymentManager.startAppProvider(Deploymen
tManager.java:560)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.deploy.DeploymentManager.doStart(DeploymentManager.
java:235)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLife
Cycle.java:69)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.ContainerLifeCycle.start(ContainerLi
feCycle.java:117)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.server.Server.start(Server.java:355)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.ContainerLifeCycle.doStart(Container
LifeCycle.java:99)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.AbstractHandler.doStart(AbstractHand
ler.java:60)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.server.Server.doStart(Server.java:324)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLife
Cycle.java:69)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.xml.XmlConfiguration$1.run(XmlConfiguration.java:12
50)
        at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.xml.XmlConfiguration.main(XmlConfiguration.java:117
4)
        at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
        at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.start.Main.invokeMain(Main.java:297)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.start.Main.start(Main.java:724)
        at org.eclipse.jetty.start.Main.main(Main.java:103)

wesleyh

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 16, 2014, 12:00:40 PM

Quote from: wesleyh on January 16, 2014, 11:46:29 AM

Ok, so two versions found:

https://github.com/swdunlop/WaspVM/blob/ce71767f5eea8d3768c7aba376c65ce8a13fdc73/vm/curve25519_i64.c
(looks to be unedited)

and https://github.com/swdunlop/WaspVM/blob/master/vm/curve25519_i64.c

Thank u for the link. Unfortunatelly, it doesn't contain an implementation of EC-KCDSA.

PS: BCNext modified original version of EC-KCDSA to increase requirements to hardware implementations of an Nxt wallet. This was supposed to increase protection of end users. But this also has some disadvantages, like inability to find other source code that does the same thing. I'm not even sure that the original contained such the code.

I don't even know what that means, but the guy just replied to me and I have his code. It seems to be the same as the source linked to, only it adds sign25519 and verify25519 methods. and there is another archive included by Michele Bini. Should I email it to you? what's your email?

bitcoinrocks

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Thank you JeanLuc.

Anon136

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Quote from: Jean-Luc on January 16, 2014, 03:13:20 PM

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Release 0.5.8:

http://download.nxtcrypto.org/nxt-client-0.5.8.zip

sha256: 4f0ceb4583ba50a7b791635586249868958c90899d7a5033d2c763c701b859d5

Change log:

Fixed a thread concurrency issue which is the likely cause of the
OutOfMemory errors some have experienced. This is a critical bugfix,
users of 0.5.7 should upgrade to 0.5.8.

Added "type" and "subtype" filters to getAccountTransactionsIds API.

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Man you are a monster! I don't know if you get told enough just how much we appreciate the work you do, but just in case you don't, we do.

vanea84

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Quote from: gbeirn on January 16, 2014, 02:53:42 PM

Quote from: vanea84 on January 16, 2014, 02:50:23 PM

Why vote makes no unfair social media.
You call a couple of people that the community is all about?

That decide for everyone

Why not conduct a fair vote social media?

Unfortunately creating a Facebook page and paying for fake 'Likes' doesn't really help the community at all.

I bought a coupon promotion Facebook

I understand, but if I create a poll why not fair?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4547740

I wish the community is not honest, not surprisingly but the price falls to the nxt, unfair to the community

Community will pay for marketing, why can not I pay for Facebook?

I do not require rewards me hurt why not create a valid vote

Jean-Luc

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Activity: 392

Merit: 250

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Hash: SHA1

Release 0.5.8:

http://download.nxtcrypto.org/nxt-client-0.5.8.zip

sha256: 4f0ceb4583ba50a7b791635586249868958c90899d7a5033d2c763c701b859d5

Change log:

Fixed a thread concurrency issue which is the likely cause of the
OutOfMemory errors some have experienced. This is a critical bugfix,
users of 0.5.7 should upgrade to 0.5.8.

Added "type" and "subtype" filters to getAccountTransactionsIds API.

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instacalm

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Quote from: pinarello

Do we need some sort of foundation (purely administrative) if so how would be the structure: can we achieve that in a decentralized way?

- Chairman (multisig)
- Secretary (multisig)
- PR
- TO (technical officer)
- DEV
- Member(multisig)
- Member
- Member

No, why enforce this? It happens organically

bitcoinrocks

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Quote from: pinarello

Do we need some sort of foundation (purely administrative) if so how would be the structure: can we achieve that in a decentralized way?

- Chairman (multisig)
- Secretary (multisig)
- PR
- TO (technical officer)
- DEV
- Member(multisig)
- Member
- Member

Quote from: rickyjames

Yes, we do need this. Yes we do yes we do yes we do.

Salsacz has outlined in another thread a similar committee just for marketing, and we need that too.

But IMHO we also need a purely administrative foundation to think about the organization and deployment of NXT in the months to come. This will be especially critical since CfB has said recently he is only going to work on NXT core software itself until April, then he is going off to work on another feature for NXT called Project K. BTNext and JeanLuc hardly post here at all, certainly not to the same degree CfB does, and that's fine - they are doing an amazing job turning out new code versions.

NXT did not exist in any form before Sept 28, 2013. NXT has made spectacular progress from one guy's idea and original post to a functional system with hundreds of deployed nodes and a widely held coin valued at 0.00004 BTC per unit in less than four months. Organizing a foundation is the next logical step to keep this momentum going.

Let's do it.

I just want to say that I'm totally opposed to having a foundation govern Nxt or even govern the development of Nxt. It's unnecessary bureaucracy and moving parts, and it will create many more problems than it will solve. Gentoo Linux tried exactly that and it did not go well.

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: marcus03 on January 16, 2014, 03:07:05 PM

Quote from: swartzfeger on January 16, 2014, 03:04:56 PM

Quote from: landomata on January 16, 2014, 02:58:48 PM

This just in...newly leaked documents reveal the NSA collects hundreds of millions of text messages a day....THAT'S PER DAY!

I see a definite benefit of Nxt AM

Edit: http://rt.com/usa/nsa-collects-sms-messages-731/

According to leaked files obtained by the British media, the NSA has been collecting nearly 200 million text messages from the world’s cellphones every single day, occasionally using those records to further extract sensitive information such as location data, address book contacts and even financial details

Makes me wonder... does Nxt AM support unicode?

It supports raw bytes, which could be anything.

It is a problem that there is no common definition yet on what messages and aliases hold. UTF-8? Should there be content-identifier? MIME encoding?

Alias URI supports UTF-8. If u need content-identifier for AM then put some kind of a magic word into the first bytes of ur messages (like "MZ" in the beginning of exe-files).

swartzfeger

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Quote from: marcus03 on January 16, 2014, 03:07:05 PM

Quote from: swartzfeger on January 16, 2014, 03:04:56 PM

Quote from: landomata on January 16, 2014, 02:58:48 PM

This just in...newly leaked documents reveal the NSA collects hundreds of millions of text messages a day....THAT'S PER DAY!

I see a definite benefit of Nxt AM

Edit: http://rt.com/usa/nsa-collects-sms-messages-731/

According to leaked files obtained by the British media, the NSA has been collecting nearly 200 million text messages from the world’s cellphones every single day, occasionally using those records to further extract sensitive information such as location data, address book contacts and even financial details

Makes me wonder... does Nxt AM support unicode?

It supports raw bytes, which could be anything.

It is a problem that there is no common definition yet on what messages and aliases hold. UTF-8? Should there be content-identifier? MIME encoding?

So would that be a client-side decision to support unicode, or would CfB/Jean Luc have to be involved?

marcus03

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Quote from: swartzfeger on January 16, 2014, 03:04:56 PM

Quote from: landomata on January 16, 2014, 02:58:48 PM

This just in...newly leaked documents reveal the NSA collects hundreds of millions of text messages a day....THAT'S PER DAY!

I see a definite benefit of Nxt AM

Edit: http://rt.com/usa/nsa-collects-sms-messages-731/

According to leaked files obtained by the British media, the NSA has been collecting nearly 200 million text messages from the world’s cellphones every single day, occasionally using those records to further extract sensitive information such as location data, address book contacts and even financial details

Makes me wonder... does Nxt AM support unicode?

It supports raw bytes, which could be anything.

It is a problem that there is no common definition yet on what messages and aliases hold. UTF-8? Is it plain text or encrypted? Should there be content-identifiers? MIME encoding?

swartzfeger

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Quote from: landomata on January 16, 2014, 02:58:48 PM

This just in...newly leaked documents reveal the NSA collects hundreds of millions of text messages a day....THAT'S PER DAY!

I see a definite benefit of Nxt AM

Edit: http://rt.com/usa/nsa-collects-sms-messages-731/

According to leaked files obtained by the British media, the NSA has been collecting nearly 200 million text messages from the world’s cellphones every single day, occasionally using those records to further extract sensitive information such as location data, address book contacts and even financial details

Makes me wonder... does Nxt AM support unicode?

landomata

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This just in...newly leaked documents reveal the NSA collects hundreds of millions of text messages a day....THAT'S PER DAY!

I see a definite benefit of Nxt AM

Edit: http://rt.com/usa/nsa-collects-sms-messages-731/

According to leaked files obtained by the British media, the NSA has been collecting nearly 200 million text messages from the world’s cellphones every single day, occasionally using those records to further extract sensitive information such as location data, address book contacts and even financial details

vanea84

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Quote from: gbeirn on January 16, 2014, 02:53:42 PM

Quote from: vanea84 on January 16, 2014, 02:50:23 PM

Why vote makes no unfair social media.
You call a couple of people that the community is all about?

That decide for everyone

Why not conduct a fair vote social media?

Unfortunately creating a Facebook page and paying for fake 'Likes' doesn't really help the community at all.

I bought a coupon promotion Facebook

I understand, but if I create a poll why not fair?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4547740

I wish the community is not honest, not surprisingly but the price falls to the nxt, unfair to the community

Community will pay for marketing, why can not I pay for Facebook?

I do not require rewards me hurt why not create a valid vote

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