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salsacz

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Quote from: swartzfeger on January 16, 2014, 02:21:16 PM

Quote from: landomata on January 16, 2014, 10:12:48 AM

A marketing Committee

1) I propose Salsacz, Pin, Utopianfuture, Opticarrier & Klee form the marketing committee

Consider uniqueorn for this list. He isn't here a lot but is at the other forum and has put in a lot of time.

actually we are debating with uniqueorn a lot via skype, there is a lot you don't see yet Cheesy

Salsacz (campaigns, viral marketing, media, people, universities... "organizing" all what is in Media topic) - Bitcointalk, all other forums
NiftyNikel (people) - nextcoin
Uniqueorn (people) - nextcoin
Utopianfuture (articles, people, science world) - Bitcointalk
opticalcarrier (scienceworld?)

? Joefox (texts) - wiki, Bitcointalk
? Anon136 (science world)
? Klee (belongs to the dev commitee)

~~Pinarello~~ (declined)

swartzfeger

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Quote from: landomata on January 16, 2014, 10:12:48 AM

A marketing Committee

1) I propose Salsacz, Pin, Utopianfuture, Opticarrier & Klee form the marketing committee

Consider uniqueorn for this list. He isn't here a lot but is at the other forum and has put in a lot of time.

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Quote from: pinarello on January 12, 2014, 11:04:45 AM

NXT community,

Do we need some sort of foundation (purely administrative) if so how would be the structure: can we achieve that in a decentralized way?

-   Chairman (multisig)
-   Secretary (multisig)
-   PR
-   TO (technical officer)
-   DEV
-   Member(multisig)
-   Member
-   Member

Yes, we do need this. Yes we do yes we do yes we do.

Salsacz has outlined in another thread a similar committee just for marketing, and we need that too.

But IMHO we also need a purely administrative foundation to think about the organization and deployment of NXT in the months to come. This will be especially critical since CfB has said recently he is only going to work on NXT core software itself until April, then he is going off to work on another feature for NXT called Project K. BTNext and JeanLuc hardly post here at all, certainly not to the same degree CfB does, and that's fine - they are doing an amazing job turning out new code versions.

NXT did not exist in any form before Sept 28, 2013. NXT has made spectacular progress from one guy's idea and original post to a functional system with hundreds of deployed nodes and a widely held coin valued at 0.00004 BTC per unit in less than four months. Organizing a foundation is the next logical step to keep this momentum going.

Let's do it.

If you need a sheriff, or a blabbermouth, I'm available...

landomata

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Quote from: Anon136 on January 16, 2014, 12:47:22 PM

Quote from: msin on January 16, 2014, 12:42:35 PM

We need to spend all 9Mil on development, we build something so good that people will spread the word organically.

+1000 this

3 million is being put away for that.

In the case of the 7 million for Marketing I meant general push for Nxt to gain mass adoption....all sub-features, client, services, website, asset exchange etc etc....fall under this area.

MARKETING & PROMOTION ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS....as one is a subset of the other....I've been doing marketing/business development for a long time....

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what's transparent forging phase 2? currently you can forget about forging if you have less thank 35k~ nxt

bitcoinrocks

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Quote from: smartwart

People become tired to be guided and restricted by authorities.
   If some one gives the people freedom and the connected responsibility, people say "yeeeh, we are free!!!".
   After a while, say get lost in there degrees of freedom and say "yeeeh, we need a leader".
   And the cycle starts again ;-)

In successful software development, there is always a leader. We are not trying to set up a new society here. We are trying to crank out a software project. Then maybe the software will create a new society.

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New Bitcointalk Summary for those who want an overview of the last two days.

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Quote from: nxtgt on January 16, 2014, 02:09:26 PM

At the very least, why aren't there multiple topics on nxtcrypto about individual project discussion as opposed to everything discussed in a single thread here? This seems like a simple organizational fix that could be implemented immediately. That way we aren't all sitting around a round table having 10 conversations at a time.

Do it! Create the threads!

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Quote from: smartwart on January 16, 2014, 02:12:46 PM

:)aiyaiya :)i,

maybe cause of the weather?
If Jean Luc release the nxt client, is this not an "single version" with many new features?
What am I missing?

Btw: I observe always the same behavior:

   People become tired to be guided and restricted by authorities.
   If some one gives the people freedom and the connected responsibility, people say "yeeeh, we are free!!!".
   After a while, say get lost in there degrees of freedom and say "yeeeh, we need a leader".
   And the cycle starts again ;-)

Ahahah exactly. I sometimes want to contact BCNext and say "You know what...great idea....but take it back, we aren't ready for it"

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Quote from: smartwart on January 16, 2014, 02:12:46 PM

:)aiyaiya :)i,

maybe cause of the weather?
If Jean Luc release the nxt client, is this not an "single version" with many new features?
What am I missing?

Btw: I observe always the same behavior:

   People become tired to be guided and restricted by authorities.
   If some one gives the people freedom and the connected responsibility, people say "yeeeh, we are free!!!".
   After a while, say get lost in there degrees of freedom and say "yeeeh, we need a leader".
   And the cycle starts again ;-)

paradoxical

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Quote from: Uniqueorn on January 16, 2014, 09:07:10 AM

It's time the "left over coins" are distributed ASAP to different PR campaigns, we got a shitton of work under way, but it's very hard to get people to dedicate tens of hours without being able to pay them more than a few thousand NXT.
The price is dipping 25% daily at this point and there is at least 2 very real competitors on the horizon being released within weeks, so it's time that the NXT core realize that having the best tech doesn't mean jack shit if people don't adopt it.

Agreed. I've worked with three different individuals on various PR projects and there's been little (if nothing) mentioned of any kind of PR rewards, so I moved on. It's not that I *expect* something in return, but a nominal 'here's 500 NXT' would go along way. I paid an individual out of pocket (fiat) for translation of Nxt material because getting assistance/volunteer is very difficult. It wasn't a lot, but that fiat could've bought me a Pi setup or a few thousand NXT. No more. I'll shift focus.

Again, bounties aren't a way for us to squeeze NXT out of the unclaimed 9 million, but it's a way of the community showing that the effort is important and needed. I get the feeling that PR isn't important to the community, so I'll focus on other Nxt areas and other cryptos.

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aiyaiyai

,

maybe cause of the weather?
If Jean Luc release the nxt client, is this not an "single version" with many new features?
What am I missing?

Btw: I observe always the same behavior:

   People become tired to be guided and restricted by authorities.
   If some one gives the people freedom and the connected responsibility, people say "yeeeh, we are free!!!".
   After a while, say get lost in there degrees of freedom and say "yeeeh, we need a leader".
   And the cycle starts again ;-)

bitcoinrocks

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Quote from: nxtgt

At the very least, why aren't there multiple topics on nxtcrypto about individual project discussion as opposed to everything discussed in a single thread here? This seems like a simple organizational fix that could be implemented immediately.

Because there is only one person here with any authority and he refuses to use it. (He seems like a good guy though.)

nxtgt

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At the very least, why aren't there multiple topics on nxtcrypto about individual project discussion as opposed to everything discussed in a single thread here? This seems like a simple organizational fix that could be implemented immediately. That way we aren't all sitting around a round table having 10 conversations at a time.

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Quote from: IveBeenBit on January 16, 2014, 01:22:58 PM

What do Utopian Future, Klee, Anon, 2Kewl4School and other prolific posters do? Do they program stuff? Write articles?

I wasn't aware that i was "prolific" but i like the sound of it. Grin

No but seriously I'm just an enthusiast. I think the forging algo is, for lack of a better word, revolutionary. All of my interest and involvement stems out of that and its not even particular to nxt. If another unique coin used a similar algo than i would be involved there also. But yea i just study it, write about it, answer questions about it, and act as a trusted counterpart where ever my reputation for honesty can be of use to someone.

bitcoinrocks

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Quote from: gbeirn

Since everyone wants a leader and someone to make decisions for them about project direction and goals and what not, I nominate myself. I will lead NXT into the future!! You may all call me NXTGeorge.

You can trust I will have everyone's best intentions in mind!

Anyone can be the leader... of their own project. You can fork the Nxt source code and be the leader of your fork. Choose any intentions you like.

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Quote from: gbeirn on January 16, 2014, 01:51:55 PM

Quote from: bitcoinrocks on January 16, 2014, 01:40:51 PM

Quote from: rickyjames

We don't need features yet, we need plain vanilla user-friendly functionality to hold and transfer coins. We need a one-click client that Joe Sixpack can install and use. We need a dead simple API that other exchanges like Cryptsy can easily plug into and get us in the ability to trade with ease. We need a whitepaper that focuses with laserlike intensity on NXT's (1) PoS forging, (2) mini-blockchain (c) 1 minute transaction time and (d) 10,000+ transaction per second capability promoted as MAJOR SOLUTIONS to the looming disasters that are about to befall Bitcoin over their ludicrous PoW mining arms race, bloated 16GB blockblockchain, sluggish 10 minute transaction time and maximum 7 transaction per second limit. And we need a stated deadline for when full open source code will be released.

Yes!

Quote from: rickyjames

I vote for centralized leadership and vision and effort to get us to that launch point.

And I'm afraid there won't be any of the above without this. Cfb and BCNxt have refused. How can we contact JeanLuc? For me, everything hinges on this.

What I don't get is people want all these things and no one seems to put effort into making these things happen. We need an easy client, ok sure, fine, someone program one, if you don't program, reach out to people who do. Find the people who are already working on native clients and offer to beta test. The API is well documented on the wiki. Parse through this thread and the others and fine people who are working on things or have won bounties. Create a wiki page for it. Create a thread here for it, post it in your signature, whatever.

The whitepaper needs help sure, but I count only 10 of us working on it Sad

Add, contribute, research, learn!

+1

The concept is simple. 1. Decentralization means avoiding one single person/ organization making all important decisions. 2. Community involvement means you actively help to make things happen as you see fit.
While this main thread is extremely disorganized, I don't see how it hinders NXT's core development process. BCNext, Cfb and Luc roll out new core updates all most every
days. We have 4 full feature-clients in progress. People are actively working on Wiki (10 people or so), code debugging (10 people or so), Marketing ( +5 people), Activism (+5 people), econ-system apps (+10 people), asset exchange documentation (+2 people) etc.

If you think you can help in any area, then say so yourself and make it work. I have asked for someone capable to write a first draft on voting principle and funding principle and the easy answer is to let Luc decide everything. But it is not going to work that way.

EmoneyRu

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Nxt-kit developer

So much marketing.
Any dev cooperation?

bitcoinrocks

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Quote from: gbeirn

What I don't get is people want all these things and no one seems to put effort into making these things happen. We need an easy client, ok sure, fine, someone program one, if you don't program, reach out to people who do. Find the people who are already working on native clients and offer to beta test. The API is well documented on the wiki. Parse through this thread and the others and fine people who are working on things or have won bounties. Create a wiki page for it. Create a thread here for it, post it in your signature, whatever.

The whitepaper needs help sure, but I count only 10 of us working on it Sad Add, contribute, research, learn!

This is textbook fragmentation and it is what ails us. The solution is here:

Quote from: nxtgt

Projects need leadership and direction.

Quote from: gbeirn

We are less than two months into this project. The initial funding BCNext asked for start in October, it's only been 4 months! since then. This stuff takes time, we are charting new territory here.

Nxt isn't the only game in town. Not for long. Time is not on our side.

Quote from: bitcoinrocks

How can we contact JeanLuc? For me, everything hinges on this.

Quote from: rickyjames

You click to that little tab at the top of the page that says My Messages, you click on the tab that says New Message, and where it says "To:", you type in "JeanLucPicard"...

Message sent.

gbeirn

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Since everyone wants a leader and someone to make decisions for them about project direction and goals and what not, I nominate myself. I will lead NXT into the future!! You may all call me NXTGeorge.

You can trust I will have everyone's best intentions in mind!

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