Topic: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 1610. (Read 2761645 times)

Not sure how many Matthijs van Duins are in the world, but this email address is recent: xmath at cpan dot org, if you want to try to contact him.

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is there not an API to generate a token?  All Ive ever seen on this is from the GUI client

Then take an initiative and do it. A lot of things around here are done that way. Nxtwiki, Nxt foundation webpage, nxtarea etc. are all done by individual initiatives first.

These kind of efforts should be the main mode of operation we are working under.

Why wait?


Fund landing page optimization?  With a bounty?  How much are you asking?


That sounds about right.


It's not done that way in the world of non-proprietary open-source software and for good reason.  It won't work and it will make us look scammy.


That class only applies to products and services.

Matthijs van Duin is xmath, but it appears to be edited in 2008 by someone.

Thank u for the link. Unfortunatelly, it doesn't contain an implementation of EC-KCDSA.

PS: BCNext modified original version of EC-KCDSA to increase requirements to hardware implementations of an Nxt wallet. This was supposed to increase protection of end users. But this also has some disadvantages, like inability to find other source code that does the same thing. I'm not even sure that the original contained such the code.

At this moment - yes. It's not necessarily a bad thing, it provides some growth in the beginning, but it should not be overdone.

Anyway, if you're just talking about creating some webpage then I am off topic here.

Still, don't we have enough friendly sites + wiki?

Show me URL that leads a person curious about NXT directly to becoming NXT stakeholder of $25+

Last I saw, the best we have to offer a person who wants to get some NXT is:
a) use exchanges (all of which have some issues and/or require BTC)
b) post in forum thread and somehow buy NXT directly

Tell me we understand the real world at least a little bit here. To get to 100,000+ NXT stakeholders, we need to expand beyond super technical forum regulars who already have BTC, to the typical intelligent person who uses the Internet.

Am I wrong?

James

We could use the time till everything is ready to start and discuss your marketing concept?

Why does nobody own it? Somebody had to create it?
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Ok, so two versions found:

https://github.com/swdunlop/WaspVM/blob/ce71767f5eea8d3768c7aba376c65ce8a13fdc73/vm/curve25519_i64.c
(looks to be unedited)


and https://github.com/swdunlop/WaspVM/blob/master/vm/curve25519_i64.c

If Nxt can't be successful without paid marketing and advertising, then it can't be successful.


You're using the wrong model to look at this.  Nxt isn't a product or a service.  The Ripple example you brought up is perfect.  What has the TV spot done for them:

http://coinmarketcap.com/xrp_30.html


Nothing is wrong with that and nothing is wrong with online advertising, but it won't be effective in this case.

Specifically, what type of advertising and marketing are you planning?

It will take time to fine tune a landing page that leads to new NXT stakeholder. Should we wait until decentralized exchange and peer review to start the process?

Should we wait to determine if we want to fund this?

I am raising this now, because I sense we are within a month from having all the cool tech we need.

attach an affiliate payout so ALL website owners big and small can make money by linking to the NXT landing page.

This is internet marketing 101.

Been away for a while and just spent some time reading the thread again.

On marketing.

Definition: what are we talking about when talking about marketing?

It seems we have two objects are being discussed and confused: Nxt (system/framework) and applications of Nxt.

Both need a different approach. When confused, we get the non/mis-communication in the team.

My idea would be to do what we can now, which is two things at least:

- Market Nxt as the system. Target group at first would be people who are interested in new cryptos, and pushing the message that it's a system, not a coin. We get people to join in on that basis and make it appealing to be part of a new movement in cryptocurrency. Client development is in this group at first. The client is a must have condition for any mainstream marketing anyway.

- make a list of coming applications. We know what is coming and we know what people are working on (apps, messaging, torrenting programs etc etc etc.)

These applications cán be treated as products, whereas Nxt itself can't. It's hard to sell "the internet" for instance. It's "easy" to sell uses of the internet.

- We choose the applications that we think will get most attention. This will take analysis, but also a good working knowledge of what is coming. We focus on maximum of 3 things to push as hard as we can with all marketing tools available. We have people who can coordinate this and we create teams on a volunteer basis. Maybe we can offer perks to the team. Volunteers should be treasured.

This seems to give a framework where we can distinguish whát we are marketing and avoid confusion between Nxt (system) and the applications.

Makes sense?

Edit: a given here is that the applications are aimed at mainstream, so devs need to aim for userfriendliness and the products need to look good.

Show me URL that leads a person curious about NXT directly to becoming NXT stakeholder of $25+

...

Am I wrong?

Show me URL that leads a person curious about NXT directly to becoming NXT stakeholder of $25+

Last I saw, the best we have to offer a person who wants to get some NXT is:
a) use exchanges (all of which have some issues and/or require BTC)
b) post in forum thread and somehow buy NXT directly

Tell me we understand the real world at least a little bit here. To get to 100,000+ NXT stakeholders, we need to expand beyond super technical forum regulars who already have BTC, to the typical intelligent person who uses the Internet.

Am I wrong?

James

It will take time to fine tune a landing page that leads to new NXT stakeholder. Should we wait until decentralized exchange and peer review to start the process? Should we wait to determine if we want to fund this?

I am raising this now, because I sense we are within a month from having all the cool tech we need.

We need to have a streamlined path to convert people that are interested in NXT into becoming NXT stakeholders. Once we have such a streamlined path, we shouldn't just use it for organic traffic, but attach an affiliate payout so ALL website owners big and small can make money by linking to the NXT landing page.

This is internet marketing 101. I am totally confused why there is such resistance. Is there some unwritten code that says we have to make things as hard as possible for ourselves and new NXT'ers?

James

Ok, so two versions found:

https://github.com/swdunlop/WaspVM/blob/ce71767f5eea8d3768c7aba376c65ce8a13fdc73/vm/curve25519_i64.c
(looks to be unedited)


and https://github.com/swdunlop/WaspVM/blob/master/vm/curve25519_i64.c