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legendary
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My account in signature. I didn't forge anything, only errors errors.
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U have 22K, that's normal that u haven't forged a block yet.

So what does "error generating block" means? As I understand, everybody having NXT in account 1440 confirmations old, has a chance, depending on NXT quantity, to forge a block. If server is running and everything OK, block should be forged. Am I right? So what prevents to forge a block? Sorry for dumb questions, but I, as ordinary Joe, want to understand the problem. I want to be sure, that my PC is OK and that is just the algorithm matter.

If u see this error having 22K then it means with 99% chance that ur blockchain is not up to date.

I think my blockchain is up to date. In recent block window, new blocks time  correspond to my PC time.

This is now. What about the time when u got the error message?
legendary
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NXT will be more successful if more people understood it. There was a short term increase in XRP value from TV spot, but marketing takes repeated exposure. the first time an iMac was seen in a movie, people didn't go out and buy a new iMac. After the tenth time, though, people did start to consider not getting a IBM PC clone.

I don't understand how you can say paying to get new NXT'ers won't be effective. Are you saying that if we got 2000 extra people purchasing $50,000 a day of NXT, that won't help NXT? I am very confused.

Advertising works. Companies spend hundreds of billions of dollars per year on it. Why would we not use a technique that has proven itself? Not logical. It's like a C programmer that refuses to use struct?! Why would we limit ourselves in promoting NXT? Do we have to cripple ourselves? Should we compete against everyone else under a self-inflicted handicap?

I was thinking that we could develop a page that clearly communicates the benefits of NXT to someone who is considering purchasing some. We make it easy for them to purchase if they want to, say by using a credit card. We make it easy for them to get new clients, information, etc. A standard customer acquisition webpage. It would have a certain conversion rate and it could be used for a model for anybody to use to drive traffic to and monetize interest in NXT. Make it so that people can make money promoting NXT and the next thing you know, many people will be promoting NXT.

How can this be a bad thing?

It's a bad thing only because it won't work.

I keep hammering on this, but it's the truth.  Nxt isn't a product or service so you can't put it in that category.  It's a currency/ecosystem/protocol/whoknowswhat.  Paid advertising/marketing works really well with products and services.  You serve ad impressions to potential customers, a certain percentage click through to your landing page, a certain percentage of those convert and pay up.  It's lovely.  But it won't work like that with Nxt because it isn't a product or service.

Can you really imagine someone seeing a few Nxt ad impressions, clicking through to the landing page, reading a little, and entering their credit card info in exchange for some Nxt?  C'mon.  That will not happen.

It has to grow the same way Linux did.  The same way Bittorrent did.  The same way Bitcoin and Litecoin did.  First we need to build something awesome and then we can use clever tactics to get the word out.  Mass-marketing through paid advertising will not work.

Please try to understand what I am saying. I saw someone overnight who said they were interested in investing in NXT. OK so he turned out to be a troll, but this is a very real possibility.


Somebody hears about NXT somehow, decides to investigate, finds this easy to follow thread, invests a few minutes reading all the pages (or goes to a forum that is being Ddos'ed) and then decides to purchase NXT using our fabulously user friendly way of buying NXT.


I AM TALKING ABOUT CREATING A PATH FOR POTENTIAL NEW NXT STAKEHOLDERS THAT IS A USER FRIENDLY WEBPAGE, instead of what any new NXT'er has to go through now.

This will work. We already have 90%+ of people who bail out somewhere along the way from finding out about NXT to finding out how confusing it is to find out about NXT.

James

P.S. My understanding was that NXT was already awesome (as soon as new clients with Asset Exchange are out)

legendary
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Have you tried contacting Dmitry Skiba?

https://plus.google.com/111256265619222022507/posts

No. What for? This won't give us the original code, only its copy that could have some differences.

How about a bounty for the person that finds original?   Wink

Ask the committee Wink
hero member
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I am suggesting we make a page oriented toward getting someone on the fence about NXT to taking the $25 (or more) plunge to purchase actual NXT. I am not talking about tricking, but using the truth about NXT to get someone to buy actual NXT.

And then what? So I am a new guy, I bought some NXT, what can I actually do with them now?

Mostly watch the price ticker and hope it goes up. And it will, thanks to your efforts to bring in new folks.

It's as clear a Ponzi scheme as it gets.

We need to build something first, then motivate people to join and use it.
sr. member
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Have you tried contacting Dmitry Skiba?

https://plus.google.com/111256265619222022507/posts

No. What for? This won't give us the original code, only its copy that could have some differences.

How about a bounty for the person that finds original?   Wink

Is this the guy who has the original?

[email protected]

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.crypt/J_7OGDf9cJE

Edit: yes it is: http://sci.crypt.narkive.com/mukCBREz/curve25519-ecdh-portable-c-implementation
http://www.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/sci.crypt/2006-08/msg01477.html
legendary
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Any news regarding Nxt crypto-algo audit?

I heard back from Steve Weis, he doesn't have the free time to review, but he is talking to several colleagues about the review.  I've sent him all the info pertaining to crypto aglo.
hero member
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Nxt isn't a product or service so you can't put it in that category.  It's a currency/ecosystem/protocol/whoknowswhat.  Paid advertising/marketing works really well with products and services.  You serve ad impressions to potential customers, a certain percentage click through to your landing page, a certain percentage of those convert and pay up.  It's lovely.  But it won't work like that with Nxt because it isn't a product or service.

...

It has to grow the same way Linux did.  The same way Bittorrent did.  The same way Bitcoin and Litecoin did.  First we need to build something awesome and then we can use clever tactics to get the word out.  Mass-marketing through paid advertising will not work.

+1!
legendary
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My account in signature. I didn't forge anything, only errors errors.
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U have 22K, that's normal that u haven't forged a block yet.

So what does "error generating block" means? As I understand, everybody having NXT in account 1440 confirmations old, has a chance, depending on NXT quantity, to forge a block. If server is running and everything OK, block should be forged. Am I right? So what prevents to forge a block? Sorry for dumb questions, but I, as ordinary Joe, want to understand the problem. I want to be sure, that my PC is OK and that is just the algorithm matter.

If u see this error having 22K then it means with 99% chance that ur blockchain is not up to date.

I think my blockchain is up to date. In recent block window, new blocks time  correspond to my PC time.
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NXT is the future
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OK go vote ladies(24h)



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=418838.new#new

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legendary
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Are you saying that if we got 2000 extra people purchasing $50,000 a day of NXT, that won't help NXT? I am very confused.

It will help create a Ponzi scheme.

Real strength is in something tangible, i.e. technological advancements and created products/services, where you can actually use NXT.

Simply tricking people to spend money to buy these, mostly useless, "shares" is not enough.

Marketing and promotions are important, but not 7 out of 9 millions! It should be something like a third or 25%.
I must not be communicating clearly.
Where do I suggest that we trick people? Where do I suggest we sell "shares"Huh

I am suggesting we make a page oriented toward getting someone on the fence about NXT to taking the $25 (or more) plunge to purchase actual NXT. I am not talking about tricking, but using the truth about NXT to get someone to buy actual NXT.

I did not suggest 7 million NXT for advertising and advertising shouldn't be all of a marketing budget, but it needs to be some part of the marketing budget. 3 million NXT for advertising sounds about right.

The marketing and PR gets people interested and curious, but  why not have an advertising page that converts 10% of the interested people to actual purchase NXT and get invested, instead of the current conversion rate, which I estimate to be less than 1%.

I am talking about increasing tenfold the number of people that we are getting interested in NXT actually becoming a stakeholder.

No tricks. No shares, actual NXT, actual stakeholders.

We are working so hard on the tech and getting PR, but there is no streamlined path to convert the interested person.

It is like optimizing software. Why not spend a little effort and make it go ten times faster? Why not spend some resources on converting 10 times more people from the same stream of interested people and of course add to that stream of interested people. 3 million NXT compared to whatever amount we have already spent on dev is a pretty small percentage.

James
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Nope, my colleague is unavailable as well. But with this reward I'm sure you'll be able to find someone.
Best,
Ittay

Oh well.  I did thank him for his time. after I got this
legendary
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NXT will be more successful if more people understood it. There was a short term increase in XRP value from TV spot, but marketing takes repeated exposure. the first time an iMac was seen in a movie, people didn't go out and buy a new iMac. After the tenth time, though, people did start to consider not getting a IBM PC clone.

I don't understand how you can say paying to get new NXT'ers won't be effective. Are you saying that if we got 2000 extra people purchasing $50,000 a day of NXT, that won't help NXT? I am very confused.

Advertising works. Companies spend hundreds of billions of dollars per year on it. Why would we not use a technique that has proven itself? Not logical. It's like a C programmer that refuses to use struct?! Why would we limit ourselves in promoting NXT? Do we have to cripple ourselves? Should we compete against everyone else under a self-inflicted handicap?

I was thinking that we could develop a page that clearly communicates the benefits of NXT to someone who is considering purchasing some. We make it easy for them to purchase if they want to, say by using a credit card. We make it easy for them to get new clients, information, etc. A standard customer acquisition webpage. It would have a certain conversion rate and it could be used for a model for anybody to use to drive traffic to and monetize interest in NXT. Make it so that people can make money promoting NXT and the next thing you know, many people will be promoting NXT.

How can this be a bad thing?

It's a bad thing only because it won't work.

I keep hammering on this, but it's the truth.  Nxt isn't a product or service so you can't put it in that category.  It's a currency/ecosystem/protocol/whoknowswhat.  Paid advertising/marketing works really well with products and services.  You serve ad impressions to potential customers, a certain percentage click through to your landing page, a certain percentage of those convert and pay up.  It's lovely.  But it won't work like that with Nxt because it isn't a product or service.

Can you really imagine someone seeing a few Nxt ad impressions, clicking through to the landing page, reading a little, and entering their credit card info in exchange for some Nxt?  C'mon.  That will not happen.

It has to grow the same way Linux did.  The same way Bittorrent did.  The same way Bitcoin and Litecoin did.  First we need to build something awesome and then we can use clever tactics to get the word out.  Mass-marketing through paid advertising will not work.
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Why is there a transaction from my account that I did not send?

Transaction id: 16521392718362128082

Recipient 8450504352895951699

1/16/2014 9:47:06 AM

Thankfully the amount of the transaction seems to be 0 (nothing). Is that something that is happening to others?
This is transaction to you account. With message. Take a look few pages back for post from marcus.

You got a wake-up call from me.

See here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4546497

Didn't expect that this would work even before account owners were able to actually read the message... :-)

@spud3861: Actually this is a false positive. You forged two blocks on your account, so you do have a public key in the blockchain for this account.

I'll need to take a look at my code...
hero member
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I am selling five untouched keys for Battlefield 4 (PC). Each key 1250 NXT.

First sold. Four left.

Second key sold in real life. Three keys left.
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
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My account in signature. I didn't forge anything, only errors errors.

U have 22K, that's normal that u haven't forged a block yet.

So what does "error generating block" means? As I understand, everybody having NXT in account 1440 confirmations old, has a chance, depending on NXT quantity, to forge a block. If server is running and everything OK, block should be forged. Am I right? So what prevents to forge a block? Sorry for dumb questions, but I, as ordinary Joe, want to understand the problem. I want to be sure, that my PC is OK and that is just the algorithm matter.

If u see this error having 22K then it means with 99% chance that ur blockchain is not up to date.
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 1005
My account in signature. I didn't forge anything, only errors errors.

U have 22K, that's normal that u haven't forged a block yet.

So what does "error generating block" means? As I understand, everybody having NXT in account 1440 confirmations old, has a chance, depending on NXT quantity, to forge a block. If server is running and everything OK, block should be forged. Am I right? So what prevents to forge a block? Sorry for dumb questions, but I, as ordinary Joe, want to understand the problem. I want to be sure, that my PC is OK and that is just the algorithm matter.
sr. member
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Are you saying that if we got 2000 extra people purchasing $50,000 a day of NXT, that won't help NXT? I am very confused.

It will help create a Ponzi scheme.

Real strength is in something tangible, i.e. technological advancements and created products/services, where you can actually use NXT.

Simply tricking people to spend money to buy these, mostly useless, "shares" is not enough.

Marketing and promotions are important, but not 7 out of 9 millions! It should be something like a third or 25%.

+1

Let's the discussion going on. We have a long journey head  Smiley
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How do I send a message from my account?
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If Nxt can't be successful without paid marketing and advertising, then it can't be successful.



what type of advertising and marketing are you planning?


this mirrors my thoughts about that topic.  

Marketing and Ads are very important.
But I'm not sure if its the right way for nxt (its not an company with defined process structures) to define a budget first and than define what to do with it.
This only leads to consumption without prove content.


I like the idea to define a team of responsible members.
And I know this competent guys come up with very good ideas!
All others should contribute to an open discussion and include ideas.
This will lead to success automatically!


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