Topic: Obama or Romney ? - page 15. (Read 21126 times)

Didnt you know that Money = Speech, so the more money you have the more you can talk! Hurray for democracy.

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Bingo!  Unfortunately in today's state of affairs, if you the government says one thing, the reality is something else.  If the media supports a politician, run, don't walk, run as far as you can from that person!

M

Until money is not an influence on campaigns / parties the media will ignore idealists since they are not going to help them out later with legislation. Ron Paul probably would have crapped all over Fox and MSNBC if he were to become president. And with good reason too, but the media outlets are run by people with political opinions that they prefer, and would rather one person or the other to win to further their companies goals.

Actually.. Ron Paul and Gary Johnson do, and would keep their promises.  That's why the establishment is so scared of them!

M

it happens

If you're convinced that the best vote against socialism is for someone who is slightly less socialist, then I'm sad to inform you that you are indeed a zombie. People like you are directly responsible for corporatism and our endless cycle of war. You are a useful idiot.

From the inside Obama has been ineffective, that's according to both sides. He's been largely unable to cram legislation through since his healthcare bill was legislated away (and it should be noted that he's had a democratic majority - his own party - and still couldn't get anything passed).

The USA is gearing up for a cultural war (my person opinion) It's going to center around tax policy, government spending and the 'failed wars mentallity' (war on drug / poverty / education / the rich / etc)

It's a testament to how bad Obama actually is that Romeny, who is really a very weak candidate in general is neck-in-neck with him. I think most Americans are starting to figure out that we probably won't get sanity out of any president.

Im going to freaking cry if Romney wins,
Im Canadian Roight, So i have no vote in this matter, But when FUCKING HARPER was elected, It was pure bullshit Seriously, He tried as hard as he could to rig the election, Even Routing RoboCalls throgh the Liberal party telling expected NDP voters that "This is service canada, Your voting ballot location has changed to XYZ bullshitspot"

So now we have a Liberalistic Conservative goverment, Seriously, The son of a bitch sold Enbridge Pipleline shares to china, When the pipleline is being fucking protested against and getting railroaded everychance we can get at it.

So the asshole goes "Oh i'll just sell a Chunk of it to china so that China has a say in the matter of weather or not the pipleline gets built, I CANT CONTROL CHINA GUISE!"
Fucking idiot doesnt understand what he's done.

Never again will I vote for the lesser of two weevils, and they are BOTH weevils!!  They are both liars and both career politicians (that's redundant, I know).

They're both clowns from competing circuses.  What the establishment tries to hide is both circuses are run by the same powers, so people think they're getting a choice, but not really, as a weevil is a weevil.  Both will lead to further destruction and ruin of the US.

I'm a Ron Paul fan, but because of republican shenanigans, I don't believe he's on the ballot in all states like Gary Johnson is.  So I'm voting for Gary.

M

no need for facepalm I'm just not part of the obama zombie bandwagon.

Gah. I hope you were talking about the Communist Party candidate. Obama could hardly even be called a progressive. The only real difference between Obama and Romney is black and white.... or blue and red - the rest is all marketing. One wants to continue (and/or has a history of continuing) social and corporate welfare, while expanding military adventurism, and the other wants to continue (and/or has a history of continuing) social and corporate welfare, while expanding military adventurism - and neither has a comprehensive plan to pay for these programs (less "by 2020, my plan will have eliminated our deficit... (but when the people who aren't grandfathered into their welfare being cut are about to feel it, politicians revert, and nothing changes."). - And that's not even the worst of it. When these fucks are compromising, the end product is corporatism -- government funding select corporations for welfare/warfare handouts... because having the government do the work is "Communism," so that's the great accomplishment Republicans have given the US: instead of citizens paying the government to direct money, citizens pay the government to pay the corporations to direct money. Great. I swear - the only thing going for Obama is that he isn't Romney - and the only thing going for Romney is that he isn't Obama. We've got this.... fucking......... - and..... ugh - out of whiskey, again.

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just sent in my early ballot.. Romney all the way!  just wouldn't feel right voting for a commie.

Amen brother. I don't see how anyone could vote for someone who is blatantly lying and deceiving for his own personal gain. Both his tax plan and his military spending plan are complete bullshit. I've never seen a politician lie like this man just because he knows low information voters won't sort it out.

Then, look at Ryan in the debate: "our plan doesn't spend more on the military, it just doesn't cut like Obama". That is a bold faced lie! Romney wants military spending at 4% of GDP, which is certainly higher than it is now. These blatant lies piss me off soooooo fucking much.

To other Mormons.

http://www.mormonwiki.org/Lying_for_the_Lord

You need to brush up on you Mormon teachings.  From the Mormon "Articles of Faith": "We believe in being honest".

Anyone who votes for the compulsive liar that is Mitt Romney and isn't extremely wealthy is an idiot. Since we are only given two choices with a chance of winning in this great country of ours it would be the obvious decision to vote for Obama because he isn't a crazy person. I don't agree with some things Obama has done or hasn't done but I also agree with some things he has or hasn't done. Mitt Romney is just a dishonest person. Whether this is related to the Mormon teachings of lying to people for the greater good or just his greed and desire for the power? Only Mitt knows that. That's why their budget math DOES NOT WORK and they want to tear down church state separations. They are just telling their base what they want then telling the moderates an entirely different story every day. They stuck Ryan on the ticket to suck in some young voters. Everything they do is a plan to mislead and dazzle enough ignorant people into letting their buddies get back to the Bush days of stuffing their pockets and shitting on the country. Jesus fuck people, it's only been 4 years since Bush and Co. decimated this country and it's constitution. Things are starting to get better in reality and not the GOP bubble. Don't go back to that clusterfuck.

Romney has repeatedly stated that the US needs to spend more money on the military, never mind that the US spends more on its military than the next ten countries combined.

Obama is not much better on this topic, but at least he admits that when the country is ending wars the military budget should go down, not up.

Personally, I prefer Johnson on this issue (and on many other issues): Cut military spending by ending foreign entanglements.