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Show me proof that Pakistan is blacklisted by FATF.
The fact is that Pakistan is never been in the FATF blacklist. I can understand that some wishes can't come true. Cheesy

I wonder why you and all Indians feel so happy to speak the things which never exists ? and Yes, after the cancellation of New Zealand tour, it was expected that England will announce the same.

I am not an Indian citizen, but it is a fact that Pakistan is facing issues for many decades now. Blaming India will not resolve the issue. The user whom you quoted was wrong. Pakistan was never blacklisted by the FATF. However, FATF is currently investigating them for links to banned entities.

https://thediplomat.com/2021/02/will-pakistan-come-off-the-fatf-grey-list/

Currently they are on the "greylist".

The real threat for the PCB is that other countries would follow the example of CNZ (ECB, CA.etc) and refuse to tour Pakistan. That will result in huge losses to the PCB. Already they are in bad financial state due to the pandemic.

I am not sure the current status whether Pakistan is removed from grey list or still there.
The article you mentioned is of the February.
Well, now after New Zealand refusal to play here, all big countires have a valid excuse to miss the series in Pakistan.

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BCCI announced India's 2021-22 home season schedule. Let's hope no more covid drama.

Wow, New Zealand team coming in our neighboring county. Last time they had no threat but they refused to play us, now let us show them the real threat. Cool

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BCCI announced India's 2021-22 home season schedule. Let's hope no more covid drama.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 21, 2021, 12:37:51 AM

Show me proof that Pakistan is blacklisted by FATF.
The fact is that Pakistan is never been in the FATF blacklist. I can understand that some wishes can't come true. Cheesy

I wonder why you and all Indians feel so happy to speak the things which never exists ? and Yes, after the cancellation of New Zealand tour, it was expected that England will announce the same.

I am not an Indian citizen, but it is a fact that Pakistan is facing issues for many decades now. Blaming India will not resolve the issue. The user whom you quoted was wrong. Pakistan was never blacklisted by the FATF. However, FATF is currently investigating them for links to banned entities.

https://thediplomat.com/2021/02/will-pakistan-come-off-the-fatf-grey-list/

Currently they are on the "greylist".

The real threat for the PCB is that other countries would follow the example of CNZ (ECB, CA.etc) and refuse to tour Pakistan. That will result in huge losses to the PCB. Already they are in bad financial state due to the pandemic.

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It's no wonder England is canceling their tour of Pakistan. It was a bad decision to leave Pakistan to fight its own battle. It is sad that politics and terrorism can affect sports. Though I understand the disappointment of both fans and administrators, it would be more productive if they practice internally and focus on the perception the world holds of Pakistan rather than playing the blame game.

Pakistan should first take care of its own problems. The fact that they got blacklisted by the FATF recently talks a lot about their ongoing troubles. And you can't force any team to visit a country, which they find to be unsafe. The only solution is to move the venue to a third country, where the matches can be played without any security concern. And already the BCCI has moved IPL to UAE/Oman due to COVID issue. I don't think that PCB need to think twice on this, and they should discuss with the Emirates Cricket Board to find a suitable solution to the problem.

Show me proof that Pakistan is blacklisted by FATF.
The fact is that Pakistan is never been in the FATF blacklist. I can understand that some wishes can't come true. Cheesy

I wonder why you and all Indians feel so happy to speak the things which never exists ? and Yes, after the cancellation of New Zealand tour, it was expected that England will announce the same.

Bhai I am Indian but I really love cricket and I know Pakistan's cricket has a rich legacy and seeing like these things now does make me feel good. I really hope every thing gets back to good soon and Pakistan again become a very competetive team. Looking for a good contest in t20 world cup

There are many talented players in the Pakistan team. But to perform well on a platform as big as the World Cup requires some experience. Apart from Babar Azam and Rizwan, I have not seen any other batsman in the Pakistan team batting responsibly. These two batsmen did not perform well, but Pakistan won I have not seen this. If the board does not focus on talented players yet, the Pakistan team will not improve in the future.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 21, 2021, 12:37:51 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 20, 2021, 11:58:21 PM

Quote from: onecall123 on September 20, 2021, 11:43:44 PM

It's no wonder England is canceling their tour of Pakistan. It was a bad decision to leave Pakistan to fight its own battle. It is sad that politics and terrorism can affect sports. Though I understand the disappointment of both fans and administrators, it would be more productive if they practice internally and focus on the perception the world holds of Pakistan rather than playing the blame game.

Pakistan should first take care of its own problems. The fact that they got blacklisted by the FATF recently talks a lot about their ongoing troubles. And you can't force any team to visit a country, which they find to be unsafe. The only solution is to move the venue to a third country, where the matches can be played without any security concern. And already the BCCI has moved IPL to UAE/Oman due to COVID issue. I don't think that PCB need to think twice on this, and they should discuss with the Emirates Cricket Board to find a suitable solution to the problem.

Show me proof that Pakistan is blacklisted by FATF.
The fact is that Pakistan is never been in the FATF blacklist. I can understand that some wishes can't come true. Cheesy

I wonder why you and all Indians feel so happy to speak the things which never exists ? and Yes, after the cancellation of New Zealand tour, it was expected that England will announce the same.

Bhai I am Indian but I really love cricket and I know Pakistan's cricket has a rich legacy and seeing like these things now does make me feel good. I really hope every thing gets back to good soon and Pakistan again become a very competetive team. Looking for a good contest in t20 world cup

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 20, 2021, 11:58:21 PM

Quote from: onecall123 on September 20, 2021, 11:43:44 PM

It's no wonder England is canceling their tour of Pakistan. It was a bad decision to leave Pakistan to fight its own battle. It is sad that politics and terrorism can affect sports. Though I understand the disappointment of both fans and administrators, it would be more productive if they practice internally and focus on the perception the world holds of Pakistan rather than playing the blame game.

Pakistan should first take care of its own problems. The fact that they got blacklisted by the FATF recently talks a lot about their ongoing troubles. And you can't force any team to visit a country, which they find to be unsafe. The only solution is to move the venue to a third country, where the matches can be played without any security concern. And already the BCCI has moved IPL to UAE/Oman due to COVID issue. I don't think that PCB need to think twice on this, and they should discuss with the Emirates Cricket Board to find a suitable solution to the problem.

Show me proof that Pakistan is blacklisted by FATF.
The fact is that Pakistan is never been in the FATF blacklist. I can understand that some wishes can't come true. Cheesy

I wonder why you and all Indians feel so happy to speak the things which never exists ? and Yes, after the cancellation of New Zealand tour, it was expected that England will announce the same.

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Quote from: onecall123 on September 20, 2021, 11:43:44 PM

It's no wonder England is canceling their tour of Pakistan. It was a bad decision to leave Pakistan to fight its own battle. It is sad that politics and terrorism can affect sports. Though I understand the disappointment of both fans and administrators, it would be more productive if they practice internally and focus on the perception the world holds of Pakistan rather than playing the blame game.

Pakistan should first take care of its own problems. The fact that they got blacklisted by the FATF recently talks a lot about their ongoing troubles. And you can't force any team to visit a country, which they find to be unsafe. The only solution is to move the venue to a third country, where the matches can be played without any security concern. And already the BCCI has moved IPL to UAE/Oman due to COVID issue. I don't think that PCB need to think twice on this, and they should discuss with the Emirates Cricket Board to find a suitable solution to the problem.

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It's no wonder England is canceling their tour of Pakistan. It was a bad decision to leave Pakistan to fight its own battle. It is sad that politics and terrorism can affect sports. Though I understand the disappointment of both fans and administrators, it would be more productive if they practice internally and focus on the perception the world holds of Pakistan rather than playing the blame game.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on September 20, 2021, 11:22:19 PM

It's funny that something can call off the tour just because of the fear of losing specially a team like New Zealand. Even though their recent form isn't very good they are still a very compact team and remember they did not get rekt or like whitewashed by the Bangladesh. It was a 3- 2 series win for Bangladesh. What I mean is Bangladesh had to really try hard to win the series even they wear in home conditions. And about Pakistan, I think their main reason for playing now is to kind of revise them before the world cup but I am sure if they train well enough they don't need to tour right now.

If New Zealand actually had the fear of losing, then why should they send such an inexperienced team to both Bangladesh and Pakistan? And they didn't performed that bad in Bangladesh. The pitches prepared by the BCB were far below international quality. Despite that, the Kiwis managed to win two out of the five matches. Right now, New Zealand is the only team outside the pig 3, which can actually compete with them (which in no doubt helped by the addition of a great number of players fleeing South Africa).

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 20, 2021, 09:55:35 AM

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After canceling newzealand and Pakistan series with the political and governmental issues, then Pakistan cricket team invite Bangladesh cricket team to complete the series. But what would be responsed from Bangladesh cricket team?

Can an international tour be organized in such a short duration? And given the fact that the New Zealand tour was called off due to security reasons, it is even more unlikely that BCB would agree to a tour in such short duration. IMO, Pakistan should rather concentrate on the T20 World Cup. Less than a month remain for the tournament, and if they really want their revenge then they should try hard in winning the trophy. It will validate their argument that CNZ called off the tour because of the fear of losing.

It's funny that something can call off the tour just because of the fear of losing specially a team like New Zealand. Even though their recent form isn't very good they are still a very compact team and remember they did not get rekt or like whitewashed by the Bangladesh. It was a 3- 2 series win for Bangladesh. What I mean is Bangladesh had to really try hard to win the series even they wear in home conditions. And about Pakistan, I think their main reason for playing now is to kind of revise them before the world cup but I am sure if they train well enough they don't need to tour right now.

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Quote from: nhaila on September 20, 2021, 08:24:06 AM

After canceling newzealand and Pakistan series with the political and governmental issues, then Pakistan cricket team invite Bangladesh cricket team to complete the series. But what would be responsed from Bangladesh cricket team?

None of them will be able to make a tour to Pakistan before the T20 world cup. Because the world cup is so close now. And Pakistan will visit Bangladesh after the world cup for playing T20 and test matches. As a result, the chance is really low to see any of them to visit Pakistan and play ODI or other series within this year.

This is almost certain now because if you want to visit Pakistan first of all there are security issues. Second, because of the coronavirus situation, they have to be in isolation before the match or the tour in that matter. And as the world cup is so near, I highly doubt that any team will take that risk.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on September 20, 2021, 07:47:04 PM

Australia will also do the same I guess. They have been doing it for quite some time now, earlier it was due to the pandemic situation and now due to the terror threat. If PCB wants to generate revenue then they should now opt for neutral venues otherwise there might be too many financial problems.

Quite logical to assume that Australia would refuse to send a squad to Pakistan. SENA nations are very strict about the security requirements. And we can't claim that their decisions are politically motivated and devoid of logic. If the situation was similar in India or Bangladesh, they would have done the same. With the Asian countries, you can expect a few concessions. And that's how the SLCB agreed to tour Pakistan in 2009 (and got attacked by terrorists). Anyway for the next few years, I can't really see any foreign teams visiting Pakistan.

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Quote from: GbitG on September 20, 2021, 12:59:58 PM

England also withdraw from tour of Pakistan due to region situation.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/england-withdraw-from-october-tours-to-pakistan-1278647

Australia will also do the same I guess. They have been doing it for quite some time now, earlier it was due to the pandemic situation and now due to the terror threat. If PCB wants to generate revenue then they should now opt for neutral venues otherwise there might be too many financial problems.

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England also withdraw from tour of Pakistan due to region situation.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/england-withdraw-from-october-tours-to-pakistan-1278647

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Quote from: nhaila on September 20, 2021, 08:24:06 AM

After canceling newzealand and Pakistan series with the political and governmental issues, then Pakistan cricket team invite Bangladesh cricket team to complete the series. But what would be responsed from Bangladesh cricket team?

None of them will be able to make a tour to Pakistan before the T20 world cup. Because the world cup is so close now. And Pakistan will visit Bangladesh after the world cup for playing T20 and test matches. As a result, the chance is really low to see any of them to visit Pakistan and play ODI or other series within this year.

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Can you tell us the source of this new development ? I searched but could not find any such news of Pakistan inviting Bangladesh team. ~

You can check this article: PCB reaches out to SLC and BCB for short tours but no series could be planned
Otherwise watch and listen to the last two minutes of this video: PCB CEO Wasim Khan Talks On The Postponement Of Pakistan vs New Zealand Series | PCB | MA2T

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Quote from: nhaila on September 20, 2021, 08:24:06 AM

After canceling newzealand and Pakistan series with the political and governmental issues, then Pakistan cricket team invite Bangladesh cricket team to complete the series. But what would be responsed from Bangladesh cricket team?

Can an international tour be organized in such a short duration? And given the fact that the New Zealand tour was called off due to security reasons, it is even more unlikely that BCB would agree to a tour in such short duration. IMO, Pakistan should rather concentrate on the T20 World Cup. Less than a month remain for the tournament, and if they really want their revenge then they should try hard in winning the trophy. It will validate their argument that CNZ called off the tour because of the fear of losing.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 20, 2021, 09:28:04 AM

Quote from: nhaila on September 20, 2021, 08:24:06 AM

After canceling newzealand and Pakistan series with the political and governmental issues, then Pakistan cricket team invite Bangladesh cricket team to complete the series. But what would be responsed from Bangladesh cricket team?

Can you tell us the source of this new development ? I searched but could not find any such news of Pakistan inviting Bangladesh team.

Yeah, Bangladesh team is most welcome to come and play with us but this is ridiculous statement that they are invited to complete the PAK/NZ series. No team can fill the gap of the NZ series but the kiwi's themselves.

I don't think any invitation regarding this publish in any newspaper or on social media I read they are planning for exhibition match with few foreign players is possible, but It's also not confirmed by anyone.

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Quote from: nhaila on September 20, 2021, 08:24:06 AM

After canceling newzealand and Pakistan series with the political and governmental issues, then Pakistan cricket team invite Bangladesh cricket team to complete the series. But what would be responsed from Bangladesh cricket team?

Can you tell us the source of this new development ? I searched but could not find any such news of Pakistan inviting Bangladesh team.

Yeah, Bangladesh team is most welcome to come and play with us but this is ridiculous statement that they are invited to complete the PAK/NZ series. No team can fill the gap of the NZ series but the kiwi's themselves.

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After canceling newzealand and Pakistan series with the political and governmental issues, then Pakistan cricket team invite Bangladesh cricket team to complete the series. But what would be responsed from Bangladesh cricket team?

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