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India will most probably win this one unless their bowlers mess up big-time. Bhuvi will probably be the X-factor.

Also, Dhawan - 98(Sad) and Rahul - 62. This is why I called them great assets currently and Kohli along with the team management made the right choice silencing the critics.

Instead of whining about their failures here and there, it's better to focus on their achievements in all formats of Cricket. This is why I strongly believe that these 2 players deserve more chances in the future.
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Powerplay -only 4 fielder outside the circle helped the Indian cause- mixed this with couple of bad delivery every now and then and we have a recipe for disaster. Its batting wicket so England going to get some runs also.

In the last 3 months debutants performing quite well for India. Gill, Nattu, Sundar, Ishan, Surya, Axar, Krunal.

England bowlers conceded more than 110 runs in the last 10 overs. Their bowling was OK till then, but from the 40th over it went really bad. When Hardik Pandya got out, India were 205/5 with just 9.3 overs left. Two new batsmen were at the crease (Krunal Pandya and KL Rahul). I thought England would be able to wrap up the Indian innings for less than 250. But in the end, India managed a massive score (317/5). Really pathetic depth bowling from England.
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It is surprising to see the England bowlers failing continuously against the Indian lower order batsmen. During the test series they struggled against Washington Sundar and Ravichandran Ashwin. And this time they are having issues against Krunal Pandya. Sam Curran in particular looked clueless out there. He bowled well during the first 8 overs, but then conceded too many runs in the last two.
Powerplay -only 4 fielder outside the circle helped the Indian cause- mixed this with couple of bad delivery every now and then and we have a recipe for disaster. Its batting wicket so England going to get some runs also.

In the last 3 months debutants performing quite well for India. Gill, Nattu, Sundar, Ishan, Surya, Axar, Krunal.
315 is not a big target for England and also because the track is good for batting. I think Indian bowlers have to try very hard to defend the target. Still it is very early now let see how the match turns out, pretty excit as I believe this should be a close match.
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It is surprising to see the England bowlers failing continuously against the Indian lower order batsmen. During the test series they struggled against Washington Sundar and Ravichandran Ashwin. And this time they are having issues against Krunal Pandya. Sam Curran in particular looked clueless out there. He bowled well during the first 8 overs, but then conceded too many runs in the last two.
Powerplay -only 4 fielder outside the circle helped the Indian cause- mixed this with couple of bad delivery every now and then and we have a recipe for disaster. Its batting wicket so England going to get some runs also.

In the last 3 months debutants performing quite well for India. Gill, Nattu, Sundar, Ishan, Surya, Axar, Krunal.
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It is surprising to see the England bowlers failing continuously against the Indian lower order batsmen. During the test series they struggled against Washington Sundar and Ravichandran Ashwin. And this time they are having issues against Krunal Pandya. Sam Curran in particular looked clueless out there. He bowled well during the first 8 overs, but then conceded too many runs in the last two.
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England is fighting back, they took out 2 set batsmen Kohli-Dhawan out of the equation and Shryas very cheaply with in 5 overs. Before I was expecting big total of 320 + runs but now its adjusted to 290-300. Let's see what happens in the last 10 overs with powerplay.
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Oh boy Hardik is gone. Now 300 looking tough.
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A few more failures and they will be out of the team forever unless they come out with some outstanding performance in the domestic circuit.
Nonsense. Dhawan and Rahul are two of the biggest assets in the Indian team currently. They won't be dismissed just because of a couple of failures in my opinion.

The so called assets (especially Dhawan) are rather turning out to be a burden to team India. The question is not whether Dhawan is an asset or not. The question here is why he is being given so many opportunities, when the younger players are dropped after just one bad match. Kohli has made the Indian team his personal fiefdom with his selection bias and nepotism. The younger players are being treated very harshly.
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Even during the T20 series, England won the toss 4 out of 5 times. And here also, England captain won the toss. I don't know why Virat Kohli is so unlucky when it comes to winning the toss.
Virat Kohli needs to spend time practicing with different coins  Cheesy.

A few more failures and they will be out of the team forever unless they come out with some outstanding performance in the domestic circuit.
Nonsense. Dhawan and Rahul are two of the biggest assets in the Indian team currently. They won't be dismissed just because of a couple of failures in my opinion.
Shikhar Dhawan is a 35 year old asset and his domestic performance in the recently concluded series and his last ten scores looks like this (23, 5, 77, 0, 0, 6, 0, 153, 44, 4) as if there are no other talents in India, KL Rahul is struggling in T20 and if that continues in ODI he will be replaced as he scored just 15 runs in his last 5 innings with a staggering average of 3. How long you will give these assets time to perform when there are promising young players waiting to get a spot.

India is lucky that they are winning all the series and until then you will not hear any complaints.
Luck? Hilarious. They decimated Australia and went on to outplay England in both the test and T-20 series thanks to their efforts which was clearly visible to everyone.
[/quote]The above mentioned flaws and then the fielding as they are missing catches every match and no one talks about them when India is winning, when a team is winning no one will highlight these flaws and that is what i meant by lucky to hide the flaws as well.
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Until now both the openers are playing calm and controlled, not taking too many risky shots.And its good to see both of them have a good start and they need to convert them into 50s or bigger than that to take the team into the winning side. About the pitch, looks flattish so this could be a high scoring game in my opinion.
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A few more failures and they will be out of the team forever unless they come out with some outstanding performance in the domestic circuit.
Nonsense. Dhawan and Rahul are two of the biggest assets in the Indian team currently. They won't be dismissed just because of a couple of failures in my opinion.

India is lucky that they are winning all the series and until then you will not hear any complaints.
Luck? Hilarious. They decimated Australia and went on to outplay England in both the test and T-20 series thanks to their efforts which was clearly visible to everyone.
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Even during the T20 series, England won the toss 4 out of 5 times. And here also, England captain won the toss. I don't know why Virat Kohli is so unlucky when it comes to winning the toss. Back in Australia also he lost the toss most of the times. Anyway, India has started "cautiously", with Dhawan and Rohit. The England pace attack looks a bit blunt, in the absence of Jofra Archer. Mark Wood performs best, when Archer is bowling from the other end.
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As expected, Shikhar Dhawan and KL Rahul has been included in the playing XI. Now I am certain that the younger Indian players don't have any chance under the Kohli/Shastri regime. Why these two are included in the XI, despite so many failures? On the other hand, Ishan Kishan was dropped after just one failure.
A few more failures and they will be out of the team forever unless they come out with some outstanding performance in the domestic circuit, i am hoping KL Rahul will perform well and he is the wicket keeper. When it comes to Ishan Kishan he was dropped because he had some injury and that is what i heard in news channel.

Anyway, as long as India wins the series, no one is going to complain. And perhaps that is the reason why Kohli is acting so arrogantly.
India is lucky that they are winning all the series and until then you will not hear any complaints.

England won the toss and India is batting first.
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As expected, Shikhar Dhawan and KL Rahul has been included in the playing XI. Now I am certain that the younger Indian players don't have any chance under the Kohli/Shastri regime. Why these two are included in the XI, despite so many failures? On the other hand, Ishan Kishan was dropped after just one failure. Anyway, as long as India wins the series, no one is going to complain. And perhaps that is the reason why Kohli is acting so arrogantly.
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Left-Right combination is important so i think Kohli & co would prefer Shikhar over Gill and KL Rahul, at least for the 1st match. If Shikhar fails there then KL Rahul would get 2nd chance over Gill.
Kohli said that he is going with Rohit and Dhawan combination for this pitch who are perfect openers in the past but in the recent time Form of Dhawan is not in great position but still he will be given the chance hopefully. I am eagerly waiting for the toos which is coming in the next few minutes meanwhile Krunal and Prasid got their caps today means they are going to be in the laying XI but expected Surya Kumar Yadav to play because he played well in when the chance was given to him in T20. Smiley

Edit: Eng won the toss and they decided to bowl first.

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India (Playing XI): Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Virat Kohli(c), Shreyas Iyer, KL Rahul(w), Hardik Pandya, Krunal Pandya, Shardul Thakur, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Kuldeep Yadav, Prasidh Krishna

England (Playing XI): Jason Roy, Jonny Bairstow, Eoin Morgan(c), Jos Buttler(w), Ben Stokes, Sam Billings, Moeen Ali, Sam Curran, Tom Curran, Adil Rashid, Mark Wood
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Bangladesh has given a target of 272 runs to New Zealand. New Zealand won the toss and elected to bowl. They may have thought that Bangladesh would have a batting disaster like in the first math. But that did not happen. Bangladesh has played well enough. If Bangladesh bowlers are able to perform their duties properly, maybe Bangladesh will be able to win the match.

Bangladesh was in trouble initially. When Mushfiqur Rahim got out, they were 184/4 after 40.3 overs. But in the remaining 9.3 overs, they managed to score at a rate of 10 runs per over, as a result of power hitting from Mohammad Mithun. The New Zealand bowlers conceded too many runs in the end. James Neesham in particular was very expensive. Anyway, New Zealand is struggling now. They are at 57/3.
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Bangladesh has given a target of 272 runs to New Zealand. New Zealand won the toss and elected to bowl. They may have thought that Bangladesh would have a batting disaster like in the first math. But that did not happen. Bangladesh has played well enough. If Bangladesh bowlers are able to perform their duties properly, maybe Bangladesh will be able to win the match.
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Left-Right combination is important so i think Kohli & co would prefer Shikhar over Gill and KL Rahul, at least for the 1st match. If Shikhar fails there then KL Rahul would get 2nd chance over Gill.

Shikhar Dhawan is in really bad shape and even his domestic team has decided to drop him. KL Rahul also seems to be going through a rough patch. If they want left-right combination, then rather than taking it as an excuse to include out of form players such as Dhawan/Rahul, they should go for Ishan Kishan or Devdutt Padikkal. Or Rohit can be dropped to the no.3 position to include Shubman Gill or Prithvi Shaw.
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I think Gill and Rohit will open for India. Dhawan doesn't deserve any more chance, Rahul is a good option but should start with Gill and Rohit.

Rohit is more or less certain and the only question is regarding the other opener. Shubman Gill should get the nod, although Kohli and Shastri are not in favor of dropping KL Rahul. Gill hasn't played T20Is recently, and his performance during the recent Test series against England was not up to the mark. Everything will depend on his performance for Kolkata Knight Riders in the IPL, which will start in around two weeks from now.
Left-Right combination is important so i think Kohli & co would prefer Shikhar over Gill and KL Rahul, at least for the 1st match. If Shikhar fails there then KL Rahul would get 2nd chance over Gill.
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I think Gill and Rohit will open for India. Dhawan doesn't deserve any more chance, Rahul is a good option but should start with Gill and Rohit.

Rohit is more or less certain and the only question is regarding the other opener. Shubman Gill should get the nod, although Kohli and Shastri are not in favor of dropping KL Rahul. Gill hasn't played T20Is recently, and his performance during the recent Test series against England was not up to the mark. Everything will depend on his performance for Kolkata Knight Riders in the IPL, which will start in around two weeks from now.
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Consistency, performance sab theek hai lekin yeh batao kitne opener rakhoge 1 team mein? Sare ke sare CEO hi rakh loge toh majdoori wala (Bowling) kaam kaun karega company mein bhai.  Grin Grin

I think Gill and Rohit will open for India. Dhawan doesn't deserve any more chance, Rahul is a good option but should start with Gill and Rohit.
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