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Quote from: Indymoney on May 02, 2020, 12:40:49 PM

Here is Pakistan team for 1992 Word Cup as this was not favorite or good team at the time but they done really miracle and won this world cup
Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Saleem Malik, Rameez Raja, Aamir Sohail, Zahid Fazal, Inzimam-ul-Haq, Ijaz Ahmed, Moin Khan, Wasim Akram, Aaqib Javed, Mushtaq Ahmed, Wasim Haider, Iqbal Sikandar, Head Coach Intikhab Alam.

Imran Khan selected a team with young players along with experienced players like Javed Miandad and i remember Inzimam-ul-Haq was the trump card as he was sent to score quick runs and even though Waqar Younis missed the tournament due to injury, Wasim Akram and Aaqib Javed spear headed the bowling department with Mushtaq Ahmed as the main spinner .

That was the best team in the history of Pakistan Cricket. On one side they had the best bowling attack and on the other side, they had the best opening pairs. The middle-order was supported by some of the best batsmen of that era. In all a perfectly balanced team with newcomers and veterans.

I don't think that was the best team of Pakistan which played the 1992 world cup. For me , 1999 World cup team Pakistan had Wasim Akram, Waqar
Younis and Sohaib Aktar and that was the best fast bowling attack Pakistan team ever had.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on May 02, 2020, 04:26:51 PM

Quote from: Indymoney on May 02, 2020, 12:40:49 PM

Here is Pakistan team for 1992 Word Cup as this was not favorite or good team at the time but they done really miracle and won this world cup
Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Saleem Malik, Rameez Raja, Aamir Sohail, Zahid Fazal, Inzimam-ul-Haq, Ijaz Ahmed, Moin Khan, Wasim Akram, Aaqib Javed, Mushtaq Ahmed, Wasim Haider, Iqbal Sikandar, Head Coach Intikhab Alam.

Imran Khan selected a team with young players along with experienced players like Javed Miandad and i remember Inzimam-ul-Haq was the trump card as he was sent to score quick runs and even though Waqar Younis missed the tournament due to injury, Wasim Akram and Aaqib Javed spear headed the bowling department with Mushtaq Ahmed as the main spinner .

That was the best team in the history of Pakistan Cricket. On one side they had the best bowling attack and on the other side, they had the best opening pairs. The middle-order was supported by some of the best batsmen of that era. In all a perfectly balanced team with newcomers and veterans.

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Quote from: Indymoney on May 02, 2020, 12:40:49 PM

Here is Pakistan team for 1992 Word Cup as this was not favorite or good team at the time but they done really miracle and won this world cup
Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Saleem Malik, Rameez Raja, Aamir Sohail, Zahid Fazal, Inzimam-ul-Haq, Ijaz Ahmed, Moin Khan, Wasim Akram, Aaqib Javed, Mushtaq Ahmed, Wasim Haider, Iqbal Sikandar, Head Coach Intikhab Alam.

Imran Khan selected a team with young players along with experienced players like Javed Miandad and i remember Inzimam-ul-Haq was the trump card as he was sent to score quick runs and even though Waqar Younis missed the tournament due to injury, Wasim Akram and Aaqib Javed spear headed the bowling department with Mushtaq Ahmed as the main spinner .

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Quote from: Indymoney on May 02, 2020, 12:40:49 PM

Here is Pakistan team for 1992 Word Cup as this was not favorite or good team at the time but they done really miracle and won this world cup
Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Saleem Malik, Rameez Raja, Aamir Sohail, Zahid Fazal, Inzimam-ul-Haq, Ijaz Ahmed, Moin Khan, Wasim Akram, Aaqib Javed, Mushtaq Ahmed, Wasim Haider, Iqbal Sikandar, Head Coach Intikhab Alam.

There are some big names there which the world cricket can never forget and that team was lead by Imran khan whom vision was the only reason that Pakistan won the 1992 world cup.

You are right there was few good names never forget but few names which we never hear after this world cup and no one able to give any comments about them as they never deserve for spot but have in like Wasim Haider Iqbal Sikandar and Zahid Fazal even after few decades we have no clue about them.

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Quote from: Indymoney on May 02, 2020, 12:40:49 PM

Here is Pakistan team for 1992 Word Cup as this was not favorite or good team at the time but they done really miracle and won this world cup
Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Saleem Malik, Rameez Raja, Aamir Sohail, Zahid Fazal, Inzimam-ul-Haq, Ijaz Ahmed, Moin Khan, Wasim Akram, Aaqib Javed, Mushtaq Ahmed, Wasim Haider, Iqbal Sikandar, Head Coach Intikhab Alam.

There are some big names there which the world cricket can never forget and that team was lead by Imran khan whom vision was the only reason that Pakistan won the 1992 world cup.

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Here is Pakistan team for 1992 Word Cup as this was not favorite or good team at the time but they done really miracle and won this world cup
Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Saleem Malik, Rameez Raja, Aamir Sohail, Zahid Fazal, Inzimam-ul-Haq, Ijaz Ahmed, Moin Khan, Wasim Akram, Aaqib Javed, Mushtaq Ahmed, Wasim Haider, Iqbal Sikandar, Head Coach Intikhab Alam.

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This is the next match which is going live on Retrolive tomorrow. This match was originally played on 21 March 1992. Did anyone watch it that time or know the result of this match ?

How can anyone forget that Match. Pakistan won that Semi final by beating the unbeaten team of 1992 World Cup in NewZealand. It was a miracle for Pakistan that Inzimam came at the middle late order and played an innings of lifetime. Later on, Pakistan won on winning the world cup.

I was in school that time, That were the good old days.

No one imagined at that time that Pakistan will win the world cup. The posts couple of initial matches but then they started playing exceptionally well from quater finals onwards.

The team had the best ballers and batsmen at that time. Waqar younis and wasim akram were ripping apart every batsmen.

Although i did not know how exactly were Team Pakistan strong at that time but i would like to make clear few things. There were no quarterfinals in 1992 worldcup and the top 4 teams qualified for the semi finals.

Waqar younis was not the part of 1992 Pakistan Squad.

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As a player, Waqar Younis had nothing but bad memories of the World Cup. ... Waqar was considered Pakistan's main weapon in the 1992 World Cup in Australia, but a week before the event started he had to return home in tears without playing a match due to injury.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on April 30, 2020, 06:57:26 PM

Quote from: JohnBitCo on April 30, 2020, 07:43:29 AM

This is the next match which is going live on Retrolive tomorrow. This match was originally played on 21 March 1992. Did anyone watch it that time or know the result of this match ?

How can anyone forget that Match. Pakistan won that Semi final by beating the unbeaten team of 1992 World Cup in NewZealand. It was a miracle for Pakistan that Inzimam came at the middle late order and played an innings of lifetime. Later on, Pakistan won on winning the world cup.

I was in school that time, That were the good old days.

No one imagined at that time that Pakistan will win the world cup. The posts couple of initial matches but then they started playing exceptionally well from quater finals onwards.

The team had the best ballers and batsmen at that time. Waqar younis and wasim akram were ripping apart every batsmen.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 27, 2020, 02:10:50 PM

Hmm.. if your claim is true, then there is a good chance that the footage was lost. Digital video cameras came in to existence only in 1993 (Ampex DCT). Before that, the digital cameras could only capture pictures. And for capturing video, you had to depend upon the old school cameras, which used film rolls. But I just hope that this footage is preserved somewhere. It means a lot for Indians.

I have no idea about those and we have not seen anyone claiming in recent years about having the videos and it is possible that those videos will be stored in someones garrage or the videos will be lost forever, but who knows we might see the video uploaded in the future as we have seen old videos of Bradman playing getting uploaded in Youtube and in the future we might hopefully get those videos.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on April 30, 2020, 07:43:29 AM

This is the next match which is going live on Retrolive tomorrow. This match was originally played on 21 March 1992. Did anyone watch it that time or know the result of this match ?

How can anyone forget that Match. Pakistan won that Semi final by beating the unbeaten team of 1992 World Cup in NewZealand. It was a miracle for Pakistan that Inzimam came at the middle late order and played an innings of lifetime. Later on, Pakistan won on winning the world cup.

I was in school that time, That were the good old days.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on April 30, 2020, 07:43:29 AM

This is the next match which is going live on Retrolive tomorrow. This match was originally played on 21 March 1992. Did anyone watch it that time or know the result of this match ?

I was young and not miss any match of this world cup which telecast by PTV because I was really die hard fan of cricket and play some good in June July when my mother was crying about you will ill but never give up in this match Martic Crow was really upset which I still remember as he was injured and run out and they lost this match Inzi and Moin was both on peak.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on April 30, 2020, 07:43:29 AM

This is the next match which is going live on Retrolive tomorrow. This match was originally played on 21 March 1992. Did anyone watch it that time or know the result of this match ?

When my father purchased a television, it was the first time that someone did that in my village. And that was in 1996, just before the world cup. Before that, whatever little information we had about cricket came from the AIR (All India Radio) and newspapers. A lot of people used to listen to the radio commentary. At least where I live, very few of the residents actually watched the 1992 world cup.

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This is the next match which is going live on Retrolive tomorrow. This match was originally played on 21 March 1992. Did anyone watch it that time or know the result of this match ?

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on April 27, 2020, 02:03:19 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 27, 2020, 12:24:08 PM

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I am not sure about this, but I don't think that this is true. Back then (in 1983), the video cameras used to be giant-sized equipment operating on film rolls. And since BBC had the right to broadcast the matches, others were not allowed to record them. There were a few journalists who were allowed to click a few pictures, but that was it. And also, in case someone had recorded that match, then definitely it would have appeared in some of the video streaming sites. It has been 37 years!!!

It is true that professional cameras were huge and none captured the match using a professional camera but there were reports that audience captured the match and how much video is available is not clear and it has been 37 years and you cannot expect the video to be uploaded just like that, there are many vintage sporting videos that are not yet uploaded in streaming sites but that does not mean that they are not available Wink

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Hmm.. if your claim is true, then there is a good chance that the footage was lost. Digital video cameras came in to existence only in 1993 (Ampex DCT). Before that, the digital cameras could only capture pictures. And for capturing video, you had to depend upon the old school cameras, which used film rolls. But I just hope that this footage is preserved somewhere. It means a lot for Indians.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 27, 2020, 12:24:08 PM

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I am not sure about this, but I don't think that this is true. Back then (in 1983), the video cameras used to be giant-sized equipment operating on film rolls. And since BBC had the right to broadcast the matches, others were not allowed to record them. There were a few journalists who were allowed to click a few pictures, but that was it. And also, in case someone had recorded that match, then definitely it would have appeared in some of the video streaming sites. It has been 37 years!!!

It is true that professional cameras were huge and none captured the match using a professional camera but there were reports that audience captured the match and how much video is available is not clear and it has been 37 years and you cannot expect the video to be uploaded just like that, there are many vintage sporting videos that are not yet uploaded in streaming sites but that does not mean that they are not available Wink

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on April 26, 2020, 05:37:13 PM

During that period no one was willing to broadcast the match as the matches are too long and on that particular day BBC was having a strike and so is the reason the match was not recorded or broadcasted by the media but the video is recorded by a private individual and was demanding huge amount during that time and after that no idea what happened to that, during that period cricket was not that big and there was not much money involved.

I am not sure about this, but I don't think that this is true. Back then (in 1983), the video cameras used to be giant-sized equipment operating on film rolls. And since BBC had the right to broadcast the matches, others were not allowed to record them. There were a few journalists who were allowed to click a few pictures, but that was it. And also, in case someone had recorded that match, then definitely it would have appeared in some of the video streaming sites. It has been 37 years!!!

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 27, 2020, 07:05:52 AM

Yeah, you are right but i was just painting the overall picture that Subcontinent teams (Indian team) used to get different treatment back then.

The reason during that time England and Australia were the powerful cricket boards as they controlled the game and then West Indies came into the scene with powerful performance under the leadership of Clive Lloyd and some world class players and started dominated Australia and England and India was not even viewed as a competitor nor does any other Asian team and then came the 1983 World Cup and none of the bookies gave India a chance to be in the final let alone win the tournamnet but Kapil Dev had other plans and that victory opened cricket to the world and in this thread people are talking about the dominance of BCCI in world cricket and it all happened because of the 1983 World cup team under Kapil Dev.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on April 26, 2020, 05:37:13 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 24, 2020, 08:15:08 AM

All that remains of that match are a few photographs. BBC was having the broadcasting rights for the 1983 Cricket World Cup (which was being played in England). Back then, India was being considered as one of the minnows, with West Indies being the overwhelming favorites to win the world cup. On that day, West Indies was playing against Australia and therefore the BBC sent the crew and equipment to cover that match. For them, the India vs Zimbabwe match was not a very important one.

During that period no one was willing to broadcast the match as the matches are too long and on that particular day BBC was having a strike and so is the reason the match was not recorded or broadcasted by the media but the video is recorded by a private individual and was demanding huge amount during that time and after that no idea what happened to that, during that period cricket was not that big and there was not much money involved.

Quote from: JSRAW on April 24, 2020, 08:16:26 AM

For this particular game ; English media had a very colonial mindset about any Subcontinent team so they didn't bother to cover this game and same goes with the broadcasters.

As mentioned it was not because of the colonist mentality but because of a strike by the staff members with the help of union members which boycoted live events and refused to do the job until their demands were met.

Yeah, you are right but i was just painting the overall picture that Subcontinent teams (Indian team) used to get different treatment back then.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 24, 2020, 08:15:08 AM

All that remains of that match are a few photographs. BBC was having the broadcasting rights for the 1983 Cricket World Cup (which was being played in England). Back then, India was being considered as one of the minnows, with West Indies being the overwhelming favorites to win the world cup. On that day, West Indies was playing against Australia and therefore the BBC sent the crew and equipment to cover that match. For them, the India vs Zimbabwe match was not a very important one.

During that period no one was willing to broadcast the match as the matches are too long and on that particular day BBC was having a strike and so is the reason the match was not recorded or broadcasted by the media but the video is recorded by a private individual and was demanding huge amount during that time and after that no idea what happened to that, during that period cricket was not that big and there was not much money involved.

Quote from: JSRAW on April 24, 2020, 08:16:26 AM

For this particular game ; English media had a very colonial mindset about any Subcontinent team so they didn't bother to cover this game and same goes with the broadcasters.

As mentioned it was not because of the colonist mentality but because of a strike by the staff members with the help of union members which boycoted live events and refused to do the job until their demands were met.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on April 26, 2020, 12:40:36 AM

However i could not find any highlights of the match on youtube. Where did you watch the match ?

You will not find any YouTube videos, because the content is copyrighted. Grin

You need to install the Fancode app on your mobile phone to watch these matches. I installed it a few months ago, in order to watch the FIBA World Cup (Basketball). Every now and then, they show some minor cricket matches for free (such as Zimbabwe vs Singapore or Nepal vs Afghanistan). As of now, the Belarusian Premier League football is also being shown live there. Grin

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