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Quote from: BitSat19 on August 08, 2019, 08:59:14 AM

If I am not wrong then @erikalui is also girl

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Sithara is girl if my memory serve me well Grin

Keep them in one place just in case if someday I am in mood to ask for their tinder :-P

Anyway back to the match,

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Match officials/umpires are out on the field assessing the conditions, the music is on, the stands are filling up steadily. Most of the covers are off,

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/19333/game/1188624/west-indies-vs-india-1st-odi-india-in-west-indies-2019

This is the latest I have. I have not still tune my tele for the match. If it starts then I will give it a try.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 08, 2019, 08:37:32 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on August 08, 2019, 03:25:38 AM

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Bumrah is back? Am expecting an ODI washout now by India. The current West Indies team is known for their T-20 players who clearly under-performed which is why I am not expecting them to give India a tough fight here.

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 08, 2019, 03:59:57 AM

Really I do not see a chance, in fact I think few post above I already have a prediction for them LOL

Yeah, he is back and adding extra power in current bowling line up. i feel the same that Windies are not capable of giving any tough fight but if it happens then its not good for cricket.

And in the end i want to see some answer for Indian middle order.

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 08, 2019, 03:59:57 AM

Okay good to have the news but gents here :-p
Raise your hands who are not a Ladies here. It will be interesting to see :-D

Sithara is girl if my memory serve me well Grin

As of now Toss is delay due to rain so chances are Toss could be important.

@JSRAW If I am not wrong then @erikalui is also girl because I read in his post some time ago and about match today we have very few chances of match as rain is very hard and covers still on lets see can we watch some action or again one bore day is waiting for us.

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 08, 2019, 03:25:38 AM

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Bumrah is back? Am expecting an ODI washout now by India. The current West Indies team is known for their T-20 players who clearly under-performed which is why I am not expecting them to give India a tough fight here.

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 08, 2019, 03:59:57 AM

Really I do not see a chance, in fact I think few post above I already have a prediction for them LOL

Yeah, he is back and adding extra power in current bowling line up. i feel the same that Windies are not capable of giving any tough fight but if it happens then its not good for cricket.

And in the end i want to see some answer for Indian middle order.

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 08, 2019, 03:59:57 AM

Okay good to have the news but gents here :-p
Raise your hands who are not a Ladies here. It will be interesting to see :-D

Sithara is girl if my memory serve me well Grin

As of now Toss is delay due to rain so chances are Toss could be important.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 08, 2019, 03:21:31 AM

Ladies, we have WI vs Ind ODI's encounter coming today within 5 hours.

Okay good to have the news but gents here :-p
Raise your hands who are not a Ladies here. It will be interesting to see :-D

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Let's see if Windies is capable of giving any fight to Indians. Wishing for some fightback from Windies side. Otherwise, it's going to be another dead series similar to T-20.

Really I do not see a chance, in fact I think few post above I already have a prediction for them LOL

Sikhar's come back is good for India. He is one of the most experienced fella in the squad. Poor him that he had to leave WC campaign for the injury.

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For Windies, nothing going right at this moment if we look at their openers. Chris Gayle U-Turn can do some magic though. The middle-order seems reasonable, and they have above-average bowling line-up who can be very lethal in their day and win matches for them.

If Pollard is in the team today then he will not make much impact. That's just a feeling. I may place a bet for him to score under x runs.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 08, 2019, 03:21:31 AM

Ladies, we have WI vs Ind ODI's encounter coming today within 5 hours. Let's see if Windies is capable of giving any fight to Indians. Wishing for some fightback from Windies side. Otherwise, it's going to be another dead series similar to T-20.

From Indian side Sikhar is back as an opener, Bumrah, Spin Twins are back as well ( only one play because Jadeja is also in the squad) Still testing time for Middle order.

For Windies, nothing going right at this moment if we look at their openers. Chris Gayle U-Turn can do some magic though. The middle-order seems reasonable, and they have above-average bowling line-up who can be very lethal in their day and win matches for them.

Bumrah is back? Am expecting an ODI washout now by India. The current West Indies team is known for their T-20 players who clearly under-performed which is why I am not expecting them to give India a tough fight here.

Betting on India seems like easy money at the moment. Will be messing around with a couple of props bets too in order to try and bag some more profits. Lets see how this goes.

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Ladies, we have WI vs Ind ODI's encounter coming today within 5 hours. Let's see if Windies is capable of giving any fight to Indians. Wishing for some fightback from Windies side. Otherwise, it's going to be another dead series similar to T-20.

From Indian side Sikhar is back as an opener, Bumrah, Spin Twins are back as well ( only one play because Jadeja is also in the squad) Still testing time for Middle order.

For Windies, nothing going right at this moment if we look at their openers. Chris Gayle U-Turn can do some magic though. The middle-order seems reasonable, and they have above-average bowling line-up who can be very lethal in their day and win matches for them.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 31, 2019, 03:25:35 PM

I never expected Sri Lanka to dominate Bangladesh in this manner especially after seeing their World Cup performances recently. This just goes to show how Sri Lanka is still a quality team in the ODI format.

Bangladesh needs to make some radical changes if they wish to stay relevant at this point. A 3-0 washout and their dependence on Shakib is not helping them at all.

Even i was taken away by these performance by Bangladesh, after seeing the world cup i thought Bangladesh was a much better team and could even win the series in Srilanka but they got white washed and none of the matches were competitive as Srilanka dominated in every department in all the three matches and i am not sure how they can make radical changes and make some impact, they need to groom their players when their top players are in the team and that is how you built a team and not by making radical changes all of a sudden.

In addition with the lack of Shakib, it was Srilanka, not England. In England, it was much easy to have score on the board. However, Bangladesh didn't play as expected, but if it was in Bangladesh, I bet SL will lose the series.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 01, 2019, 06:01:51 AM

I do not know what changes will be effective but they really need to do something about Tamim. Also they need to find a bowling unit that take wickets. In the entire WC we have seen they were heavily dependent on their batting unit.

Anamul was given chance in the last match after a long time, he didn't perform well but I wish BCB decides to try him at least for 5/6 matches before deciding about replacement. He is a good opener for one day.
We don't have much bowling option these days. Mostafiz has become poor after the surgery. Other bowlers like Rubel, Shafiul can never be the bowler of first spell, to be honest. We don't have many option either. It would be better to keep focus on BPL to get some young bowlers at the team. Abu Haidar was doing fine but after poor bowling in 3/4 matches, he was dropped.
This is a big problem of BCB, never gives enough time, not applicable for Tamim though Cheesy

Now as BCB is gaining some good profit from BPL and good sponsors they need to do some work for strong setup as they must work on Bowling academy as MRF Bowling Academy in India which bring too many good bowlers for them because right now they are facing some serious drought in this department and this can help them even take some long time but works surely.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 31, 2019, 03:25:35 PM

I never expected Sri Lanka to dominate Bangladesh in this manner especially after seeing their World Cup performances recently. This just goes to show how Sri Lanka is still a quality team in the ODI format.

Bangladesh needs to make some radical changes if they wish to stay relevant at this point. A 3-0 washout and their dependence on Shakib is not helping them at all.

Even i was taken away by these performance by Bangladesh, after seeing the world cup i thought Bangladesh was a much better team and could even win the series in Srilanka but they got white washed and none of the matches were competitive as Srilanka dominated in every department in all the three matches and i am not sure how they can make radical changes and make some impact, they need to groom their players when their top players are in the team and that is how you built a team and not by making radical changes all of a sudden.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 01, 2019, 06:01:51 AM

I do not know what changes will be effective but they really need to do something about Tamim. Also they need to find a bowling unit that take wickets. In the entire WC we have seen they were heavily dependent on their batting unit.

Anamul was given chance in the last match after a long time, he didn't perform well but I wish BCB decides to try him at least for 5/6 matches before deciding about replacement. He is a good opener for one day.
We don't have much bowling option these days. Mostafiz has become poor after the surgery. Other bowlers like Rubel, Shafiul can never be the bowler of first spell, to be honest. We don't have many option either. It would be better to keep focus on BPL to get some young bowlers at the team. Abu Haidar was doing fine but after poor bowling in 3/4 matches, he was dropped.
This is a big problem of BCB, never gives enough time, not applicable for Tamim though Cheesy

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 01, 2019, 06:01:51 AM

The Bangladesh team in WC and this Bangladesh team is totally different because of Shakib's absence. On top of it Tamim is having his worst time in the career, Mahmudullah Riyad is struggling for runs even Mushfiqur Rahim did not perform yesterday.

I think Bangladesh needs to learn how to win matches without Shakib. It's like the Indian team once it used to be. Sachin, Ganguly did not perform, India could not perform.

I remember that time very nicely. The Indians were playing poor Cricket and were in a dismal state whenever Sachin and Sehwag had bad starts. MSD changed the game by making some drastic changes here which was initially met with heavy criticism from the Indians, but this move helped them lift the World Cup after a long gap. If Bangladesh does the same, they might be an even better team in the future.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 31, 2019, 03:25:35 PM

I never expected Sri Lanka to dominate Bangladesh in this manner especially after seeing their World Cup performances recently. This just goes to show how Sri Lanka is still a quality team in the ODI format.

The Bangladesh team in WC and this Bangladesh team is totally different because of Shakib's absence. On top of it Tamim is having his worst time in the career, Mahmudullah Riyad is struggling for runs even Mushfiqur Rahim did not perform yesterday.

I think Bangladesh needs to learn how to win matches without Shakib. It's like the Indian team once it used to be. Sachin, Ganguly did not perform, India could not perform.

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Bangladesh needs to make some radical changes if they wish to stay relevant at this point. A 3-0 washout and their dependence on Shakib is not helping them at all.

I do not know what changes will be effective but they really need to do something about Tamim. Also they need to find a bowling unit that take wickets. In the entire WC we have seen they were heavily dependent on their batting unit.

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Quote from: sujonali1819 on August 01, 2019, 04:37:39 AM

So, you are saying that Tamim Iqbal also should be replaced with other new talents? But I don't think like that. Because as I know that Tamim is the best batsman of Bangladesh. But recently he is failing to play. That not means He will not come back on his form. So I think we need to wait a little bit more to see another couple of good match by Tamim. And Tamim should not be replaced. Thanks

Exactly. I am not saying that they should never select him again. I am just stating that other players need to be given a chance currently until he is back in form since he is playing really horribly these days.

Also, Pffrt also pointed out that he has heavy references which is why he continues to play for the team currently. This would be the best decision regarding the Bangladesh lineup going forward in my opinion.

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Quote from: sujonali1819 on August 01, 2019, 04:37:39 AM

So, you are saying that Tamim Iqbal also should be replaced with other new talents?

Well generally inconsistent players are replaced. At some point he will be if he continues to perform like this.

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But I don't think like that. Because as I know that Tamim is the best batsman of Bangladesh. But recently he is failing to play. That not means He will not come back on his form. So I think we need to wait a little bit more to see another couple of good match by Tamim. And Tamim should not be replaced. Thanks

Tamim is a good player without a doubt. He had scored many runs for his country in past. But just because of his earlier performance doesn't gives him a life-long ticket into the team. Rohit at one point was also performing very bad and he was dropped out from the team at one point but he proved back with his performances in domestic cricket matches and he was handed over chance again into the team after. It doesn't means if one is dropped out, he doesn't have a chance to get back. I think management has put faith in him for long now and its time to do something about it.

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I didn't either. Bangladesh had a great performance in world cup, however, it is also true that whoever had great performance in world cup, had good performance in this series too. Mushfiq and Shakib was the key performer in the world cup, Mushfiq had performed good in the Srilankan series too.

In my opinion, Rahim, Sarkar, Shakib, Liton, Rahman, Saifuddin and Mahmudullah are the consistent players and the rest need to be replaced asap with new talented players which could help the team in a big way.

Shakib needs to be made the captain. I think Rahim and Liton could make a good opening pair.

So, you are saying that Tamim Iqbal also should be replaced with other new talents? But I don't think like that. Because as I know that Tamim is the best batsman of Bangladesh. But recently he is failing to play. That not means He will not come back on his form. So I think we need to wait a little bit more to see another couple of good match by Tamim. And Tamim should not be replaced. Thanks

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Quote from: Little Mouse on August 01, 2019, 01:02:36 AM

I didn't either. Bangladesh had a great performance in world cup, however, it is also true that whoever had great performance in world cup, had good performance in this series too. Mushfiq and Shakib was the key performer in the world cup, Mushfiq had performed good in the Srilankan series too.

In my opinion, Rahim, Sarkar, Shakib, Liton, Rahman, Saifuddin and Mahmudullah are the consistent players and the rest need to be replaced asap with new talented players which could help the team in a big way.

Shakib needs to be made the captain. I think Rahim and Liton could make a good opening pair.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 31, 2019, 03:25:35 PM

I never expected Sri Lanka to dominate Bangladesh in this manner especially after seeing their World Cup performances recently. This just goes to show how Sri Lanka is still a quality team in the ODI format.

Bangladesh needs to make some radical changes if they wish to stay relevant at this point. A 3-0 washout and their dependence on Shakib is not helping them at all.

I didn't either. Bangladesh had a great performance in world cup, however, it is also true that whoever had great performance in world cup, had good performance in this series too. Mushfiq and Shakib was the key performer in the world cup, Mushfiq had performed good in the Srilankan series too.

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I never expected Sri Lanka to dominate Bangladesh in this manner especially after seeing their World Cup performances recently. This just goes to show how Sri Lanka is still a quality team in the ODI format.

Bangladesh needs to make some radical changes if they wish to stay relevant at this point. A 3-0 washout and their dependence on Shakib is not helping them at all.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 30, 2019, 06:15:23 AM

Seriously we need to promote Test cricket and ODI instead of T20 and other format.

Definitely not!!!

Test cricket wastes 5 full days and I have seen its impact where I live. Whenever India plays a test match, half of the working age males skip their work, and get themselves glued in front of the TV screen. In rural areas, the entire economic activity gets affected. If this is the case in Northeast India, I can imagine how much worse will be the situation in rest of India. T20 is somewhat better, since it gets over in 3 hours.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 31, 2019, 05:57:17 AM

I just learnt that in this ground Bangladesh has no win yet and not sure if they can break this trend even though they are in the better position today. May be they can hope for a fight.

As expected, Angelo continues performing well just like in recent matches and his 87 from 90 balls propelled Sri Lanka close to 300 which is a competitive target.

What stunned me is how poorly Bangladesh is performing at the moment. Sarkar is the only one hanging on. Sri Lanka are decimating Bangladesh currently.

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