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Quote from: JSRAW on August 14, 2019, 08:54:20 AM

Welcome to Rain's international Grin

Today every International cricket match is interrupted by the rains. be it test match in between SL vs NZ or toss delay in the Ashes or ODI. The latest casualty is ODI Windies vs Ind's game.

Windies won the toss and batting first. No Bumrah today, guess Indian saving him for Test and rightly so.

India can afford this right now to give rest him for test matches as they have good combination and all is going good for them now we have 4 overs of this third ODI and West Indies start is very shaky hopefully today we have some better from them and after very bore and rainy day some good and interesting cricket.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 14, 2019, 08:54:20 AM

Welcome to Rain's international Grin

Today every International cricket match is interrupted by the rains. be it test match in between SL vs NZ or toss delay in the Ashes or ODI. The latest casualty is ODI Windies vs Ind's game.

Windies won the toss and batting first. No Bumrah today, guess Indian saving him for Test and rightly so.

It is also kind of interesting to know the result of these matches because it can turn into any sides if there is a game play remaining.

People suffer from drought on many countries so never blame rains again.

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Welcome to Rain's international Grin

Today every International cricket match is interrupted by the rains. be it test match in between SL vs NZ or toss delay in the Ashes or ODI. The latest casualty is ODI Windies vs Ind's game.

Windies won the toss and batting first. No Bumrah today, guess Indian saving him for Test and rightly so.

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Quote from: FIFA worldcup on August 13, 2019, 01:30:40 PM

Cricket is not about making personal achievements and personal records. It's a team game and required a team effort to win the matches. Gayle, if he is not in a good form should retire from one day international. He should not wait for 300 matches or other things which resemble personal records.

Seriously? The majority including me do not want the Universe Boss to retire yet because we still wish to watch him continue playing for some more time. No one can force these legends to retire which is why I disagree with you here. Its their personal decision at the end of the day.

Quote from: 7788bitcoin on August 13, 2019, 07:27:00 PM

Every sporting events people remember these personal achievements and why is it a bad thing, he is playing his 300th match while 99% of the population are not even talented enough to play one international match, cricket is the only group sport that has stats and records and we can remember because these are celebrated and the fans remembers those moments, if Gayle wants to retire let him do so why would anyone dictate what to do with his career and if he is not that good or performing badly the selectors will not pick him for the next match or series and you cannot find a replacement for Gayle that easily.

I agree with your statements except for the 99% part which is a bit far-fetched. There are many talented cricketers around the world which represent a far bigger percentage in this regard.

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Quote from: erikalui on August 13, 2019, 02:39:37 AM

No mention about Gayle playing his last ODI match but mostly people were cheering him for playing his 300th ODI.

BTW, BCCI wants to include cricket in LA Olympics now by 2028. I feel it's a great opportunity if they recognize Cricket also and was wondering what took them so long to include this sport.

BCCI is the only think stops cricket to be added from olympics,it was the internal politics between ICC and BCCI after the introduction of IPL league.

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Quote from: erikalui on August 13, 2019, 02:39:37 AM

BTW, BCCI wants to include cricket in LA Olympics now by 2028. I feel it's a great opportunity if they recognize Cricket also and was wondering what took them so long to include this sport.

I think it was the ICC chairperson who made that statement and not any official from the BCCI. 2028 Olympics is almost a decade away. Why they are not trying to get it included in the 2024 Olympics, if the 2020 tournament was too close? The answer is that the ICC don't want cricket in Olympics and these are just delaying tactics. All they care about is money, and they don't want to lose a month's revenue from bilateral tournaments by giving permission to include cricket in Olympics.

If the ICC cared about the sport more than the revenue, then they could have done what FIFA had done. FIFA went to great lengths to ensure that football is included in the Olympics and they agreed to all the demands made by the IOC, including drug tests. In turn, being an olympic sport football now qualifies for government funding in more than 200 nations.

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Quote from: FIFA worldcup on August 13, 2019, 01:30:40 PM

Cricket is not about making personal achievements and personal records. It's a team game and required a team effort to win the matches. Gayle, if he is not in a good form should retire from one day international. He should not wait for 300 matches or other things which resemble personal records.

Every sporting events people remember these personal achievements and why is it a bad thing, he is playing his 300th match while 99% of the population are not even talented enough to play one international match, cricket is the only group sport that has stats and records and we can remember because these are celebrated and the fans remembers those moments, if Gayle wants to retire let him do so why would anyone dictate what to do with his career and if he is not that good or performing badly the selectors will not pick him for the next match or series and you cannot find a replacement for Gayle that easily.

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Quote from: ene1980 on August 13, 2019, 02:52:29 AM

He played his 300th ODI which is a big deal and hence there was celebration for that achievement but never heard about his retirement from ODI.

Okay then I think we will need to wait till the next match. I tried looking online but found nothing about it. It really is confusion for me LOL Not sure where I heard that the last match was his last ODI :-P

Quote from: Haunebu on August 13, 2019, 02:52:58 AM

Am not too sure about this news since he basically reversed his retirement decision recently which is why we can't be too sure about these things. He might still have some fuel left in his tank for a couple more matches.

Yeah it was during the world cup: https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/48775479

Atm everyone speculating about his retirement. As Gayle's fan, It's hard to watch him nowadays because he's playing bad and now he's waiting for Board to kick him out. (JK)

The way I see he could announce his retirement before the 300th match so that he could play last game as the farewell match. He's already became the highest run-scorer for Windies so announcing retirement at this milestone makes sense as well, but it's not an option anymore.

Or maybe he's eyeing for one explosive inning for closure who knows. Huh

Cricket is not about making personal achievements and personal records. It's a team game and required a team effort to win the matches. Gayle, if he is not in a good form should retire from one day international. He should not wait for 300 matches or other things which resemble personal records.

You are right and we have many historical examples for this but some time few players love to do these things as we have in case of Gayle he need to give his retirement statement straight away after world cup but he want to achieve this target and now want to retire so its not his personal wish its his board was also involve and they oblige him for this all.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 13, 2019, 04:24:01 AM

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 13, 2019, 04:10:53 AM

Quote from: ene1980 on August 13, 2019, 02:52:29 AM

He played his 300th ODI which is a big deal and hence there was celebration for that achievement but never heard about his retirement from ODI.

Okay then I think we will need to wait till the next match. I tried looking online but found nothing about it. It really is confusion for me LOL Not sure where I heard that the last match was his last ODI :-P

Quote from: Haunebu on August 13, 2019, 02:52:58 AM

Am not too sure about this news since he basically reversed his retirement decision recently which is why we can't be too sure about these things. He might still have some fuel left in his tank for a couple more matches.

Yeah it was during the world cup: https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/48775479

Atm everyone speculating about his retirement. As Gayle's fan, It's hard to watch him nowadays because he's playing bad and now he's waiting for Board to kick him out. (JK)

The way I see he could announce his retirement before the 300th match so that he could play last game as the farewell match. He's already became the highest run-scorer for Windies so announcing retirement at this milestone makes sense as well, but it's not an option anymore.

Or maybe he's eyeing for one explosive inning for closure who knows. Huh

Cricket is not about making personal achievements and personal records. It's a team game and required a team effort to win the matches. Gayle, if he is not in a good form should retire from one day international. He should not wait for 300 matches or other things which resemble personal records.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 13, 2019, 04:24:01 AM

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Atm everyone speculating about his retirement. As Gayle's fan, It's hard to watch him nowadays because he's playing bad and now he's waiting for Board to kick him out. (JK)

The way I see he could announce his retirement before the 300th match so that he could play last game as the farewell match. He's already became the highest run-scorer for Windies so announcing retirement at this milestone makes sense as well, but it's not an option anymore.

Okay, I must messed up here with his 300th ODI thinking as his last ODI match LOL

Well Gayle really is having bad time since the WC and I think it started sometimes from the last IPL.

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Or maybe he's eyeing for one explosive inning for closure who knows. Huh

No doubt. May be, he is trying to play some more good innings and then wants to retire from the peak. In fact this is the dream of every player.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 13, 2019, 04:10:53 AM

Quote from: ene1980 on August 13, 2019, 02:52:29 AM

He played his 300th ODI which is a big deal and hence there was celebration for that achievement but never heard about his retirement from ODI.

Okay then I think we will need to wait till the next match. I tried looking online but found nothing about it. It really is confusion for me LOL Not sure where I heard that the last match was his last ODI :-P

Quote from: Haunebu on August 13, 2019, 02:52:58 AM

Am not too sure about this news since he basically reversed his retirement decision recently which is why we can't be too sure about these things. He might still have some fuel left in his tank for a couple more matches.

Yeah it was during the world cup: https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/48775479

Atm everyone speculating about his retirement. As Gayle's fan, It's hard to watch him nowadays because he's playing bad and now he's waiting for Board to kick him out. (JK)

The way I see he could announce his retirement before the 300th match so that he could play last game as the farewell match. He's already became the highest run-scorer for Windies so announcing retirement at this milestone makes sense as well, but it's not an option anymore.

Or maybe he's eyeing for one explosive inning for closure who knows. Huh

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Quote from: ene1980 on August 13, 2019, 02:52:29 AM

He played his 300th ODI which is a big deal and hence there was celebration for that achievement but never heard about his retirement from ODI.

Okay then I think we will need to wait till the next match. I tried looking online but found nothing about it. It really is confusion for me LOL Not sure where I heard that the last match was his last ODI :-P

Quote from: Haunebu on August 13, 2019, 02:52:58 AM

Am not too sure about this news since he basically reversed his retirement decision recently which is why we can't be too sure about these things. He might still have some fuel left in his tank for a couple more matches.

Yeah it was during the world cup: https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/48775479

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 12, 2019, 05:43:24 PM

I thought Gayle played his last ODI match in the 2nd match?

Am not too sure about this news since he basically reversed his retirement decision recently which is why we can't be too sure about these things. He might still have some fuel left in his tank for a couple more matches.

He is easily one of my most favorite cricket players of all time, but he needs to retain his form asap whichever format he continues to play in. West Indies have produced many great hitters over the years, but Gayle is easily the best batsman that they have produced.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 12, 2019, 05:43:24 PM

I thought Gayle played his last ODI match in the 2nd match?

He played his 300th ODI which is a big deal and hence there was celebration for that achievement but never heard about his retirement from ODI.

Quote from: erikalui on August 13, 2019, 02:39:37 AM

BTW, BCCI wants to include cricket in LA Olympics now by 2028. I feel it's a great opportunity if they recognize Cricket also and was wondering what took them so long to include this sport.

I know that the BCCI is powerful but do they hold they key to play cricket in the Olympics, ICC have the say to those things and not a countries board, the players have to undergo strict drug testing and i wonder how many players will pop if that happens Cheesy

, the only case i remember is Shane Warne and he got suspended for a year for that.

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No mention about Gayle playing his last ODI match but mostly people were cheering him for playing his 300th ODI.

BTW, BCCI wants to include cricket in LA Olympics now by 2028. I feel it's a great opportunity if they recognize Cricket also and was wondering what took them so long to include this sport.

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 12, 2019, 06:43:37 AM

Quote from: erikalui on August 12, 2019, 03:07:39 AM

I don't expect anything from WI team as they don't have good players and even not a single player can manage to play on behalf of the team and get runs like Smith for Australia and Shakib for Bangladesh. They even did not choose Pollard for what reason God knows. Lewis has been a consistent player but he had to get a 70-80 run partnership to keep getting runs but he also did not manage to do that. Very poor performance.

Was quite surprised with the omission of Pollard too. The only consistent players in the West Indian team currently are Lewis and Pooran and Gayle seems to be dragging them down due to his poor form these days.
Pollard would have been a better option since he seems to have recovered his form recently. Russell is also a key player who is still recovering from injuries and a player like him could make a big difference in T-20 and ODI formats.

What you guys are talking about? The WICB wanted Pollard to play the matches against India. But he refused their request and chose to play in the Global T20 league in Canada (for the Toronto Nationals). Playoff phase is ongoing in GT20 and Pollard told the board that he can't miss those crucial matches. If he don't want to play, then I don't think that the WICB can kidnap him from Canada and bring him to Trinidad in a chartered flight. They need to respect his choice.

This is one of the issues facing WI for many years. The contracted salary is too low to keep these talented players attached to the team. They are some of the best players in the world. You have powerful hitters like Pollard, Russell and Gayle, who are in high demand all over the world, especially for the T20 format. Playing for the national team may be a matter of pride for them, but what choice will they make when the offered salary is less than one-tenth of what they would get playing franchise cricket?

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I thought Gayle played his last ODI match in the 2nd match?

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 11, 2019, 10:27:17 PM

I wonder if anyone expected WI to win any match of this series. WI is a T20 team. We have seen their performance in WC, we are seeing their performance in this series. Against a team like India, they do not stand a chance.

What I am hating about this series is, the rain. Whenever I try to tune the tele I see rain LOL

There is no doubt that India is much better team than West Indies, but West Indies have players like Gayle who could change a match with his power hitting and if he gets going it is very difficult to stop him, i have seen his performance in a club T20 recently and the way in which he play is incredible, but against Indian bowlers it is a different story altogether but if he plays one good inning we could see an upset Wink

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 12, 2019, 06:43:37 AM

Was quite surprised with the omission of Pollard too. The only consistent players in the West Indian team currently are Lewis and Pooran and Gayle seems to be dragging them down due to his poor form these days.

Pollard would have been a better option since he seems to have recovered his form recently. Russell is also a key player who is still recovering from injuries and a player like him could make a big difference in T-20 and ODI formats.

Lewis is good and hence after he got out, things got worse. Now Gayle may retire so they have to choose some better batsmen. Keeping Pollard out in an important match was certainly a bad idea.

Russell too is a great player in T20 and ODI matches but that knee injury is a concern if he will be able to perform well as players take a lot time to recover and then come in form.

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Quote from: erikalui on August 12, 2019, 03:07:39 AM

I don't expect anything from WI team as they don't have good players and even not a single player can manage to play on behalf of the team and get runs like Smith for Australia and Shakib for Bangladesh. They even did not choose Pollard for what reason God knows. Lewis has been a consistent player but he had to get a 70-80 run partnership to keep getting runs but he also did not manage to do that. Very poor performance.

Was quite surprised with the omission of Pollard too. The only consistent players in the West Indian team currently are Lewis and Pooran and Gayle seems to be dragging them down due to his poor form these days.

Pollard would have been a better option since he seems to have recovered his form recently. Russell is also a key player who is still recovering from injuries and a player like him could make a big difference in T-20 and ODI formats.

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