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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 02, 2023, 11:35:08 AM

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Ishan seems to be a front runner because he's lefty, WK and opener that's why he's getting a long rope.

Sanju is middle order batter and WK. For the middle order WK spot, his competition would be KL Rahul. Even if we look at Sanju as a pure batsman then still SKY (so far he failed but he's clutch player) and Iyer(if fit) are there to give him competition. Overall big headache for the selectors.

And you are forgetting the fact that Rishabh Pant will be fit again in a few months. At this point, everyone else mentioned in the above post have shown more consistency when compared to Samson. I am glad that Samson finally got a fifty, but I don't know whether he will be able to perform like this against strong teams like Australia and England. His style of batting is not very suitable against these teams. Even Venkatesh Iyer is more preferable comparable to Samson. That said, there is nothing wrong in Samson getting a few more opportunities.

I doubt if Rishab will make a comeback anytime soon, his recovery will take a minimum of 6-8 months and then there is a match fitness issue. Forget about the ODI wc (Oct 2023), atm Indian management is not even considering him for the test series against SA and England, which is scheduled around Dec 2023-Jan 2024 and Jan-Mar 2024.

Regarding his consistency.

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Sky's average is 24 after playing 26 matches and Sanju's 55 after featuring in 13 matches.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 02, 2023, 11:24:46 AM

Ishan seems to be a front runner because he's lefty, WK and opener that's why he's getting a long rope.

Sanju is middle order batter and WK. For the middle order WK spot, his competition would be KL Rahul. Even if we look at Sanju as a pure batsman then still SKY (so far he failed but he's clutch player) and Iyer(if fit) are there to give him competition. Overall big headache for the selectors.

And you are forgetting the fact that Rishabh Pant will be fit again in a few months. At this point, everyone else mentioned in the above post have shown more consistency when compared to Samson. I am glad that Samson finally got a fifty, but I don't know whether he will be able to perform like this against strong teams like Australia and England. His style of batting is not very suitable against these teams. Even Venkatesh Iyer is more preferable comparable to Samson. That said, there is nothing wrong in Samson getting a few more opportunities.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on August 02, 2023, 10:42:39 AM

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Despite that Sanju would be lucky if he makes it into the WC squad because there are too many WK batters. Kishan seems to be doing okay and if KL Rahul is fit then he will easily walk in the team as a middle order WK batter. His T-20/Test form is gone for good but he performed fairly well in ODI (middle order).

I would like to see Sanju Samson getting more opportunities and if he is able to continue performing consistently he should get a spot in the team. Ishan Kishan got the opportunity to play all the matches in this series and he scored half centuries in each of the ODI and if he continue like this his spot will be fixed and Sanju can be the back up player in the World Cup squad.

Ishan seems to be a front runner because he's lefty, WK and opener that's why he's getting a long rope.

Sanju is middle order batter and WK. For the middle order WK spot, his competition would be KL Rahul. Even if we look at Sanju as a pure batsman then still SKY (so far he failed but he's clutch player) and Iyer(if fit) are there to give him competition. Overall big headache for the selectors.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on August 02, 2023, 10:42:39 AM

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Despite that Sanju would be lucky if he makes it into the WC squad because there are too many WK batters. Kishan seems to be doing okay and if KL Rahul is fit then he will easily walk in the team as a middle order WK batter. His T-20/Test form is gone for good but he performed fairly well in ODI (middle order).

I would like to see Sanju Samson getting more opportunities and if he is able to continue performing consistently he should get a spot in the team. Ishan Kishan got the opportunity to play all the matches in this series and he scored half centuries in each of the ODI and if he continue like this his spot will be fixed and Sanju can be the back up player in the World Cup squad.

Before the World Cup, India got the chance to have a good warm-up series where they got a chance to pick some quality cricketers. BCCI has formed the team with most of the players of the team with which India toured the West Indies but not the regular players of the Indian national team, the players who are next in line to the regular players so that BCCI can take any consistent player into the team before the World Cup.
Ishan Kishan came up with the idea of their World Cup due to the formation of such a team. This wicket-keeper batsman may get a place in the main team of the World Cup tournament due to doing well in the West Indies series.

We have no doubt about Sanju Samson's talent, he is one of the best batsmen, as there is enough time before the start of the World Cup, Sanju Samson might get a place in the team in the next series.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 02, 2023, 09:06:56 AM

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Despite that Sanju would be lucky if he makes it into the WC squad because there are too many WK batters. Kishan seems to be doing okay and if KL Rahul is fit then he will easily walk in the team as a middle order WK batter. His T-20/Test form is gone for good but he performed fairly well in ODI (middle order).

I would like to see Sanju Samson getting more opportunities and if he is able to continue performing consistently he should get a spot in the team. Ishan Kishan got the opportunity to play all the matches in this series and he scored half centuries in each of the ODI and if he continue like this his spot will be fixed and Sanju can be the back up player in the World Cup squad.

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Quote from: onecall123 on August 02, 2023, 09:33:03 AM

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This series was important for India. Because they played this series without the two best players in their squad, Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma.
In the first two matches, we saw very poor batting from Indian batsmen. However, luckily they won one match and lost one in the first two matches. Still, the Indian management has faith in this squad. And India's performance in the third ODI has impressed everyone. Indian players showed great dominance as they set a huge target of 352. India won by 200 runs. India will also play well in Asia Cup as their players are confident now.

A significant victory! Third ODI win was a true example of teamwork, as every department contributing their part. In the third ODI, India achieved their highest total ever without any player scoring a century individually. This series win will surely give a boost for their upcoming tournaments. However, I am concerned about West Indies' performance. They are simply not up to par in terms of competitiveness and going through a tough phase, as they are winless fifth consecutive ODI series.

India's victory in the third ODI was quite likely before going into the field but we didn't think that India would win so quickly and by such a margin against the West Indies. Team India secured a big win by 200 runs with 15 overs in hand against West Indies. After losing the toss against West Indies, India came into bat where they were able to score 351 runs for 5 wickets in the allotted fifty overs, India scored 351 runs in the first innings and the target level for West Indies stood at 352 runs. Set to bat with a target of 352 runs, the West Indies lost wickets from the start and as a result, wickets fell at regular intervals, they managed to stay on the wicket for 35 overs and managed to score only 151 runs against India as India secured an easy 200-run victory. Shubman Gill was selected as Man of the Match and Ishan Kishan was selected as Man of the Series.

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Quote from: onecall123 on August 02, 2023, 09:33:03 AM

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This series was important for India. Because they played this series without the two best players in their squad, Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma.
In the first two matches, we saw very poor batting from Indian batsmen. However, luckily they won one match and lost one in the first two matches. Still, the Indian management has faith in this squad. And India's performance in the third ODI has impressed everyone. Indian players showed great dominance as they set a huge target of 352. India won by 200 runs. India will also play well in Asia Cup as their players are confident now.

A significant victory! Third ODI win was a true example of teamwork, as every department contributing their part. In the third ODI, India achieved their highest total ever without any player scoring a century individually. This series win will surely give a boost for their upcoming tournaments. However, I am concerned about West Indies' performance. They are simply not up to par in terms of competitiveness and going through a tough phase, as they are winless fifth consecutive ODI series.

West Indies is also out of the world cup. That's why I said that it never looked like they were playing on their home grounds. West Indies is a good side in T20Is. I hope they will try to win the series against India. But India is one of the champions as well. I heard one thing that West Indies players don't want to play for their country.

Most of the players prefer playing T20I tournaments and leagues like IPL, LPL, BPL etc. There is a reason behind it. I heard that the West Indies cricket board is full of corrupted people. They don't want to give proper salaries to their players. Who knows the truth? I heard those things from our local media.

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Quote from: BALIK on August 02, 2023, 07:35:10 AM

This series was important for India. Because they played this series without the two best players in their squad, Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma.
In the first two matches, we saw very poor batting from Indian batsmen. However, luckily they won one match and lost one in the first two matches. Still, the Indian management has faith in this squad. And India's performance in the third ODI has impressed everyone. Indian players showed great dominance as they set a huge target of 352. India won by 200 runs. India will also play well in Asia Cup as their players are confident now.

A significant victory! Third ODI win was a true example of teamwork, as every department contributing their part. In the third ODI, India achieved their highest total ever without any player scoring a century individually. This series win will surely give a boost for their upcoming tournaments. However, I am concerned about West Indies' performance. They are simply not up to par in terms of competitiveness and going through a tough phase, as they are winless fifth consecutive ODI series.

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India's team showed its power show in the last ODI match. They gave a huge target to West Indies team with its excellent performance. And now they have won the series. And tomorrow they will enter in the new phase means these two teams will start its T20 series. And we can't say what will happen? West Indies looks better in T20 matches but don't say anything now.

It does not look like India is playing an away series, and also, it does not look like West Indies is playing in their home ground. The games are not even competitive enough. Both teams play with young players. West Indies won the 2nd game because of India's batting failure. But they came back strongly in the 3rd game and scored 350.
350 is the highest score in this series so far. Rest two games were low scoring. India won both the Test and ODI series comfortably. The T20I series is ahead, but I believe West Indies is a strong side in T20I. I hope we will see some competitive cricket there.

You are right. This match does not look like a West Indies home match. West Indies lost the home match by 200 runs. Indian players are getting facilities at the West Indies pitch. When the Indian batsmen batted it felt like a batting-friendly pitch. On the other hand, when the batsmen of West Indies batted, it seemed that the pitch was bowling friendly. We saw the strange batting of the West Indies players.
After a poor performance in the previous two matches, such a comeback was much needed for India. India won this match by 200 runs. As a result, the confidence of the players increased. The team will perform in the Asia Cup after a few days. It will then play the ODI World Cup later this year. Continuity in the ODI format is very important for the Indian players right now.

@BALIK this was indeed a great comeback by the young Indian team after they had faced a humiliating defeat in the second ODI but I hope that they don’t get carried away by this victory because defeat in the second ODI showed that they yet have to improve a lot if they wish to beat big team’s like Australia and England. Lastly this match also showed that the team can do well without Kohli and Rohit and I believe that their time is almost up and soon they’ll be dropped from the ODI format permanently.

This series was important for India. Because they played this series without the two best players in their squad, Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma.
In the first two matches, we saw very poor batting from Indian batsmen. However, luckily they won one match and lost one in the first two matches. Still, the Indian management has faith in this squad. And India's performance in the third ODI has impressed everyone. Indian players showed great dominance as they set a huge target of 352. India won by 200 runs. India will also play well in Asia Cup as their players are confident now.

It was the opportunity availed for the young Indian team. It looked like the team gonna mess up, based on the poor performance coming from the players in the first two matches. In the final ODI, everyone played in a much responsible manner. This is a must win series to hold the confidence before the Asia Cup, World Cup and the series against Ireland and Australia in the upcoming months.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 02, 2023, 05:52:57 AM

The selectors will be confused, especially w.r.t the batsmen. Samson scored a fifty after so many chances and now his fans would demand his inclusion in the playing XI for the next two years. But there is no spot available for him. If Samson need to be included, then Suryakumar Yadav need to be dropped. A lot of people want the selectors to take this decision, but personally I believe that SKY is much more consistent when compared to Samson. BTW, Pant may struggle to get back to the XI, once he completely recovers from injury.

Sky's average is 24 after playing 26 matches and Sanju's 55 after featuring in 13 matches.

Despite that Sanju would be lucky if he makes it into the WC squad because there are too many WK batters. Kishan seems to be doing okay and if KL Rahul is fit then he will easily walk in the team as a middle order WK batter. His T-20/Test form is gone for good but he performed fairly well in ODI (middle order).

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India's team showed its power show in the last ODI match. They gave a huge target to West Indies team with its excellent performance. And now they have won the series. And tomorrow they will enter in the new phase means these two teams will start its T20 series. And we can't say what will happen? West Indies looks better in T20 matches but don't say anything now.

It does not look like India is playing an away series, and also, it does not look like West Indies is playing in their home ground. The games are not even competitive enough. Both teams play with young players. West Indies won the 2nd game because of India's batting failure. But they came back strongly in the 3rd game and scored 350.
350 is the highest score in this series so far. Rest two games were low scoring. India won both the Test and ODI series comfortably. The T20I series is ahead, but I believe West Indies is a strong side in T20I. I hope we will see some competitive cricket there.

You are right. This match does not look like a West Indies home match. West Indies lost the home match by 200 runs. Indian players are getting facilities at the West Indies pitch. When the Indian batsmen batted it felt like a batting-friendly pitch. On the other hand, when the batsmen of West Indies batted, it seemed that the pitch was bowling friendly. We saw the strange batting of the West Indies players.
After a poor performance in the previous two matches, such a comeback was much needed for India. India won this match by 200 runs. As a result, the confidence of the players increased. The team will perform in the Asia Cup after a few days. It will then play the ODI World Cup later this year. Continuity in the ODI format is very important for the Indian players right now.

@BALIK this was indeed a great comeback by the young Indian team after they had faced a humiliating defeat in the second ODI but I hope that they don’t get carried away by this victory because defeat in the second ODI showed that they yet have to improve a lot if they wish to beat big team’s like Australia and England. Lastly this match also showed that the team can do well without Kohli and Rohit and I believe that their time is almost up and soon they’ll be dropped from the ODI format permanently.

This series was important for India. Because they played this series without the two best players in their squad, Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma.
In the first two matches, we saw very poor batting from Indian batsmen. However, luckily they won one match and lost one in the first two matches. Still, the Indian management has faith in this squad. And India's performance in the third ODI has impressed everyone. Indian players showed great dominance as they set a huge target of 352. India won by 200 runs. India will also play well in Asia Cup as their players are confident now.

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The selectors will be confused, especially w.r.t the batsmen. Samson scored a fifty after so many chances and now his fans would demand his inclusion in the playing XI for the next two years. But there is no spot available for him. If Samson need to be included, then Suryakumar Yadav need to be dropped. A lot of people want the selectors to take this decision, but personally I believe that SKY is much more consistent when compared to Samson. BTW, Pant may struggle to get back to the XI, once he completely recovers from injury.

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India's team showed its power show in the last ODI match. They gave a huge target to West Indies team with its excellent performance. And now they have won the series. And tomorrow they will enter in the new phase means these two teams will start its T20 series. And we can't say what will happen? West Indies looks better in T20 matches but don't say anything now.

It does not look like India is playing an away series, and also, it does not look like West Indies is playing in their home ground. The games are not even competitive enough. Both teams play with young players. West Indies won the 2nd game because of India's batting failure. But they came back strongly in the 3rd game and scored 350.

350 is the highest score in this series so far. Rest two games were low scoring. India won both the Test and ODI series comfortably. The T20I series is ahead, but I believe West Indies is a strong side in T20I. I hope we will see some competitive cricket there.

You are right. This match does not look like a West Indies home match. West Indies lost the home match by 200 runs. Indian players are getting facilities at the West Indies pitch. When the Indian batsmen batted it felt like a batting-friendly pitch. On the other hand, when the batsmen of West Indies batted, it seemed that the pitch was bowling friendly. We saw the strange batting of the West Indies players.

After a poor performance in the previous two matches, such a comeback was much needed for India. India won this match by 200 runs. As a result, the confidence of the players increased. The team will perform in the Asia Cup after a few days. It will then play the ODI World Cup later this year. Continuity in the ODI format is very important for the Indian players right now.

@BALIK this was indeed a great comeback by the young Indian team after they had faced a humiliating defeat in the second ODI but I hope that they don’t get carried away by this victory because defeat in the second ODI showed that they yet have to improve a lot if they wish to beat big team’s like Australia and England. Lastly this match also showed that the team can do well without Kohli and Rohit and I believe that their time is almost up and soon they’ll be dropped from the ODI format permanently.

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India's team showed its power show in the last ODI match. They gave a huge target to West Indies team with its excellent performance. And now they have won the series. And tomorrow they will enter in the new phase means these two teams will start its T20 series. And we can't say what will happen? West Indies looks better in T20 matches but don't say anything now.

It does not look like India is playing an away series, and also, it does not look like West Indies is playing in their home ground. The games are not even competitive enough. Both teams play with young players. West Indies won the 2nd game because of India's batting failure. But they came back strongly in the 3rd game and scored 350.

350 is the highest score in this series so far. Rest two games were low scoring. India won both the Test and ODI series comfortably. The T20I series is ahead, but I believe West Indies is a strong side in T20I. I hope we will see some competitive cricket there.

You are right. This match does not look like a West Indies home match. West Indies lost the home match by 200 runs. Indian players are getting facilities at the West Indies pitch. When the Indian batsmen batted it felt like a batting-friendly pitch. On the other hand, when the batsmen of West Indies batted, it seemed that the pitch was bowling friendly. We saw the strange batting of the West Indies players.

After a poor performance in the previous two matches, such a comeback was much needed for India. India won this match by 200 runs. As a result, the confidence of the players increased. The team will perform in the Asia Cup after a few days. It will then play the ODI World Cup later this year. Continuity in the ODI format is very important for the Indian players right now.

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Quote from: ThemePen on August 01, 2023, 07:54:54 PM

India's team showed its power show in the last ODI match. They gave a huge target to West Indies team with its excellent performance. And now they have won the series. And tomorrow they will enter in the new phase means these two teams will start its T20 series. And we can't say what will happen? West Indies looks better in T20 matches but don't say anything now.

It does not look like India is playing an away series, and also, it does not look like West Indies is playing in their home ground. The games are not even competitive enough. Both teams play with young players. West Indies won the 2nd game because of India's batting failure. But they came back strongly in the 3rd game and scored 350.

350 is the highest score in this series so far. Rest two games were low scoring. India won both the Test and ODI series comfortably. The T20I series is ahead, but I believe West Indies is a strong side in T20I. I hope we will see some competitive cricket there.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on August 01, 2023, 12:30:48 PM

Team India set a huge target of 352. Today we don't see bad batting from Indian batsmen like last two matches. Every batsman in India batted very responsibly today. Every batsman in the squad except Raturaj Gaikwad batted well today. But no batsman can score a century today. Ishan Kishan had 77 runs, Shubman Gill had 85 runs and Hardik Pandya played an excellent innings of 70 runs off 52 balls. There is no possibility of the Indian team losing in this match. West Indies batting line-up is not very experienced right now. They will not be able to collect 352 runs against experienced Indian bowlers.

India's team showed its power show in the last ODI match. They gave a huge target to West Indies team with its excellent performance. And now they have won the series. And tomorrow they will enter in the new phase means these two teams will start its T20 series. And we can't say what will happen? West Indies looks better in T20 matches but don't say anything now.

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Quote from: n0ne on August 01, 2023, 06:39:22 PM

India played very carefully and it is good that each and every player contributed good other than Gaikwad. Big win to win the ODI series.

Yeh it's necessary win for India because due to recent defeat everyone pointing out figure on them for thier one of the worst defeat against a recent bad performer team, today from first ball they were confident stick with thier play and some long significant start partnership which set a rythm which Carrey out by upcoming batters after every dismissal, most of indian batter give those best but unfortunately none of them able to score his century,
While during target defend the new boy Kumar done some majestic performance by taking out early first wickets which definitely executed pressure on upcoming batters which unfortunately they can't manage and lose so quick wickets before some significant runs but it's good for westindies to save himself from whitewash and it's good for India too to beat their opponents brutally in order to shut the hatters mouth

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After a long time I saw a big run in the Indian opening pair. In the third ODI match against West Indies, India managed to put together a huge partnership of 162 runs in the opening pair. Building on a big partnership of 162 runs by the opening pair, India are now at 295 after 45 overs where they have lost four wickets to make 295 runs.
Today's match can be India's as India are batting well from the start. If India can do well in bowling as well as batting, India will definitely win this match.

Still with 5 overs left to play in the first innings as Hardik Pandya and SKY are on the wicket, I think 70 to 80 runs can be scored in the last five overs. If India can score 70 runs in the last five overs, the target for West Indies will be 380 plus.

West indie would be happy that they have atleast won one ODI and are not whitewashed in ODI series. No Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli today but Indian batting was well prepared for today's game. An opening stand of 143 in just 20 overs led the foundation of huge target. WI have already lost 3 wikcets at a score of 29 runs in 10 overs. An easy win for India today that will also let them win the series.

West Indies need to play better. Being the leader of cricket in the past and now they're completely different. India played very carefully and it is good that each and every player contributed good other than Gaikwad. Big win to win the ODI series. Shardul Thakur and Mukesh Kumar have bowled well and restricted West Indies team by 151 runs. West Indies used to be good in T20 cricket and lets see if they can play good in the 5 match series.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on August 01, 2023, 12:05:30 PM

After a long time I saw a big run in the Indian opening pair. In the third ODI match against West Indies, India managed to put together a huge partnership of 162 runs in the opening pair. Building on a big partnership of 162 runs by the opening pair, India are now at 295 after 45 overs where they have lost four wickets to make 295 runs.
Today's match can be India's as India are batting well from the start. If India can do well in bowling as well as batting, India will definitely win this match.

Still with 5 overs left to play in the first innings as Hardik Pandya and SKY are on the wicket, I think 70 to 80 runs can be scored in the last five overs. If India can score 70 runs in the last five overs, the target for West Indies will be 380 plus.

West indie would be happy that they have atleast won one ODI and are not whitewashed in ODI series. No Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli today but Indian batting was well prepared for today's game. An opening stand of 143 in just 20 overs led the foundation of huge target. WI have already lost 3 wikcets at a score of 29 runs in 10 overs. An easy win for India today that will also let them win the series.

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Looks like you mistyped, you mentioned about the India's match that is ongoing and not England's Wink

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After some terrible batting performance from India, they looked set for a huge total in the series decider. The openers gave a century run partnership and Shubman Gill is still in the crease and looks like he is going to score another century and Sanju Samson is playing with full freedom as he smacked 3 sixes in his short innings and hopefully he will go on to score a big one.

I definitely think @Minor Miner was talking about India and he must have mistyped.

India performed really well in the first innings. They have put on a very big score of 351/5. West Indies, he’s going to need more than seven runs per over from the start of the match. This is going to be a tough job for the West Indies to actually do. There is a big chance that India is going to win this match. India should not lose to be honest after giving such a big target. The batting performance from India was really good today. Looks like they have learned their lesson from the second match.

West Indies already started the chase. They have scored only 17 runs in seven overs. They have also lost three wickets already. So I don’t see how they are going to make a comeback in this match. This is definitely going to be a win for India.

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