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Zimbabw has won the toss and decided to bowl. Now Pakistan is batting. They have scored 226 runs in 44 overs. So far Pakistan has lost 6 wickets. It seems that Pakistan can score like 265 runs. But Pakistan team batsman Omair Yousuf has done an amazing performance. 115 runs from 112 balls Did it. If Omair Yousuf can play complete overs then I think he can match 150 runs today. Zimbabwe's bowling line is not doing very well.

Pakistan Shaheens may make a total of close to 300. After 47 overs, they are 263/6, with the 24-year old Omair Yousuf batting unbeaten at 138. Pakistan selectors are utilizing this opportunity well, to give chances to some of the younger players. Apart from Omair, Kamran Ghulam also scored a half-century. On the other hand, there seems to be no difference between the Zimbabwe Select squad and the Zimbabwe senior team. Almost all the players are regulars from the senior side. And they have really struggled against the young Pakistani players.

If Pakistan does their batting performance well, it will definitely be possible to score 280 runs in the match. They still have a few wickets in hand and if they can keep the wickets, the run rate will increase. And if the wicket falls then the run rate will not increase much. Pakistan batsman Omair Yousuf gave a great performance in the match. He is in very good batting form. He scored 115 runs off 112 balls by scoring a century. And another great batsman Kamran Ghulam who scored 55 runs off 79 balls. Pakistan batsmen in great moment in this match but their current team score is 226 runs 6 wickets 44 overs. In this match Pakistan is more likely to win so if they perform well in the match they will definitely win.

Pakistan S vs Zimbabwe S

Pakistan is batting right now in the first innings. Pakistan has scored 159/3 in 33 overs. They have a good foundation set up for a really good score around 280. But for that, they will have to accelerate a little and also keep wickets in hand. So far from what I have seen from Pakistan in this series, I am a little worried about actually trusting them to reach  280. But I also think that if Pakistan can reach 280 I believe Pakistan will be able to win the match.

Zimbabwe main team beat India Pakistan, Bangladesh Sri Lanka Several of their main team players are playing in this team against Pakistan and since Pakistan team has mostly inexperienced players, Zimbabwe are taking advantage of this opportunity against Pakistan. They have already won the first two ODI matches against Pakistan. However, they were defeated in the third match. Zimbabwe won the toss in the 4th match of the 6-match ODI series and decided to field against Pakistan. If Zimbabwe wins this match today, the chances of winning the series against Pakistan will increase a lot. Because in order to equalize the series between the next two matches, Pakistan will have to win two matches.  And there will be a chance for Zimbabwe to win a match.  Hope Zimbabwe will do well against Pakistan today.

Bilateral relations between India and Pakistan are mutually exclusive and this relationship is prevalent not only in the political arena but also in the cricket arena. If any cricket match is held between Pakistan and India and that cricket match also there is a storm of discussion and criticism online among the fans. But an important point in this case is that if a match is held between India and Pakistan and if India loses in that match, then there is a huge debate between the fans of Pakistan and India online. Although India is far ahead of Pakistan in terms of fan followers, but in terms of online, fierce arguments are created between the fans scattered in different parts of the world. Although these arguments are temporary but these arguments make cricket more interesting and enjoyable.

Such relations between the two countries were not built overnight. But one thing is clear that the two countries do not want to lose to anyone. An adversarial relationship has always prevailed between them. But I think people in these two countries have a huge role to play in creating this kind of relationship. Because we often saw when Pakistan lost to India, the common people started vandalism. When this issue was spread in the media, it was understandable to everyone. If India had lost, people would have stormed in online. Basically, these things gradually take a massive form. Also the political environment is not good. I think there will be no change in this country until the people of both countries can change their thinking.

Surprised to see Zimbabwe leading the series by 2-1. But the Zimbabwe Select squad contains several players who are regular members of the senior side, such as Blessing Muzarabani, Wessly Madhevere, Craig Ervine, Sean Williams, Ryan Burl, Wellington Masakadza and Tendai Chatara. On the other hand, Pakistan A side is consisted mostly of inexperienced players. This series has showed the hollowness of talent pool in Zimbabwe. They have won two matches, but still no young player has emerged with a noticeable performance so far.     

Zimbabwe S vs Pakistan S

Today is the 4th unofficial ODI match between these two teams. First two matches won by the Zimbabwe team and the 3rd match won by the Pakistan and now the 4th match will be played. And if we take a look back so we will see that Zimbabwe team is more strong as compare to the Pakistan team. At this time series is at 2-1. And I hope the Zimbabwe will again win this match. Let's see.

I don't watch this type of game much but after you mentioned I saw its score. But nothing to see here. Rather feel annoyed because there is no participation of natives. Although claimed but it is easily guessed without any doubt. Moreover Finland scored only 106 runs in this match but Sweden could not over come that score. Watching such matches seems like a waste of time to me.

Both teams are new in cricket, But as long as they don't deliver good innings, the interest of the viewers will not increase. Either they have to give good innings or keep prominent players. If these aspects are not recognized then those tournament cannot gain popularity.

What is the point in watching these matches? I checked the squads for both the teams and none of them had any citizens. Entire squad was comprised of recent immigrants from India or Pakistan. Among the nations that participate in this tournament, Danmark used to have a primarily native squad until the 1990s. But the current squad is almost unrecognizable. In two decades, they went from 90% native to 10% native. Several of the European teams are going in the same direction, including Netherlands and Scotland.

Well, that is actually true. The media is certainly over exaggerating everything to get views. And most of the news we get are from the media. So, it is almost always easy to get misled by the media. I am sure that there is actually not much had between both of the countries, especially the people. It is actually the politician who are trying to fuel the hatred between the countries and trying to keep the people busy with these problems.

Anyway, the hatred has certainly gone down as people have started realizing that it is just not helpful for the average person.

After seeing the post went through the summary of the match. This is nothing a surprise, because in most of the matches the score of Finland is around 90-100 runs. Finland could've reached the target. In the super over both the teams have performed good. In a over Sweden have scored 13 runs and Finland have chased at the final ball reaching 15 runs. For a long we haven't seen any match ending in a super over. I expect one such match to take place in the IPL

Did anyone see the match between Finland vs Sweden(Nordic t20 cup)?
I missed it but I saw the scoreboard what excited match it was. Sweden batted first and could take only 96 runs. The performance of the batsmen of both teams was absolutely worst. The top order batsmen of both the teams could not perform well. However, Finland performed a bit better than Sweden and caught the target run of 96 but the match went into super over as the ball ran out.
And Finland managed to get their win in Super Over but I think their batsmen should play more careful in the upcoming matches. If we see the below picture their form is not that good wicket fall ratio they also have a lot. But in the end, I think fans of both teams almost had a heart attack today
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I agree the culture is very different from the whole world. Except for India, the western neighbor is in the process of destroying itself, the southern has already done it. The Eastern neighbors are trying to solve their issues with the help of India.

Did you visit India? If not how will you know how much growth has happened? The infrastructure in tier 2 and tier 3 cities are far much better than the neighbors. 10 years back things were very much underdeveloped now there is a drastic change. I live in India and I know what is happening. Indians know it and we tend to ignore such foolish statements. I could not therefore I replied as I do not tend to ignore degraded statement about my country.

Pakistan is on the brink of either a Civil war or Martial law. This country never went up after becoming an independent country. They have gone down and down and now they are economically struggling but neither the US nor their friendly neighbor China has helped them. The next worst thing is that it is no more considered a respected nation in OIC.

Pakistan cricket would suffer because of what is happening in that country. Wait for a year or two and you will see they as in the PCB would be struggling to stay afloat.

PS -This is an ODI thread please do not make it a political discussion thread.  

 

I agree but sadly we can't bring changes in near future because culture of subcontinent is completely different from the other world about many things and here peoples mostly wants to live with their personal ego's and own choices which are having big impact it is happening in these both countries just because of this we are still missing bright sides development which is happening around the world even many will be feeling India is growing very fast but in reality it is happening in few cities not all over India so just because of this we are feeling problems about few things specially only in cricket.

On other side Pakistan is going down badly due to domestic issues even many feeling now we are going to have another big disaster after 50 years again so in my view we are not going to have positive changes in this area and game as well.

Oh! Isit? I was not aware of it. I generally do not follow unofficial matches. The way everyone reacted about Pakistan losing against Zimbabwe made me believe that it might be a 3 match series.

If what you are saying is correct then Pakistan team still can win the series or level it.

How Zimbabwe won the series. They have 6 unofficial ODI's. And Zimbabwe won only two so how the Zimbabwe team won the series. Well, the last match won by the Pakistan team by DLS method. Pakistan was trying really well to win the match and they won. And now the series between these two team is 2-1. And the next means 4th ODI will be played tomorrow.

I don't think people of both the countries have got a mentality thinking a win in cricket is superior to the other. Maybe this mentality could've been there in the past. Now things were different, people are much open. As in the above post it is like a tradition, the game have got into each and everyone. Whether they play or not, everyone knows about Sachin Tendulkar. Even if there is nothing to talk, they'll start like no one can be same as Sachin Tendulkar. This is how cricket is within the two countries. In recent years the media to increase its viewers used to give hype with more promotional statements that shows one superior to the other.

Cricket is like a tradition in both countries. Both of them want to have the upper hand on the other when it comes to cricket. No other sports are so popular in these countries. And as I said people are crazy about cricket. They think cricket is the way to prove which team is superior.

Actually, it is a way to decide which country is superior in the mind of the people. We all know India has the upper hand in decision making in cricket compared to Pakistan. In order to reach that position, India has put in a lot of work. If Pakistan had good political leadership and did not have the problem of all presidents not being able to full fill the full quota of his reign I think Pakistan could have had political stability and also could have improved a lot just like India.