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Today is the 5th ODI match between these two teams. They have played 4 matches and in this series Zimbabwe team performance was really good and they won 3 matches and Pakistan won only one match. And still Zimbabwe team is looking more strong. And I hope again Zimbabwe team will give surprise. By the Way let's see.

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Ireland is the latest team to announce their squad for the ICC ODI World Cup 2023 Qualifiers. All of the regular players are available for the tournament, and Craig Young makes a comeback after recovering from injury. He will join Josh Little to lead the Irish pace attack. Ireland is placed in a tough group along with Sri Lanka, Scotland, Oman and the United Arab Emirates. Apart from Sri Lanka, it is going to be tough to defeat Scotland as they have been performing very well recently. The Scots have also announced a strong squad consisting of regulars such as Richie Berrington, Matthew Cross and Michael Leask.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 24, 2023, 08:54:11 AM

Quote from: rojan on May 24, 2023, 07:49:05 AM

I saw a lot of difference between Pakistan and Zimbabwean team players. Pakistan team players could not bat and bowl very well. But Zimbabwean did very well from bowling to batting. I thought Zimbabwean will not play very well in the match. But Zimbabwean is very good. played. Pakistan team players are in such a bad situation because of their poor performance.

It's not like that. Pakistan fielded a very young and inexperienced side and at times they struggled against experienced Zimbabwean batsmen such as Craig Ervine and Sean Williams. That said, bowlers like Mir Hamza, Shahnawaz Dahani and Aamer Jamal did what they could under unsupportive conditions. Again, let's not forget the purpose of this series. The PCB is using this series to give opportunities to some of the emerging players ahead of the Asia Cup and ODI World Cup. Those who perform well in this series will be considered for those tournaments.

Rather than staying idle without any matches, it is good to have matches atleast with the young team. This brings more opportunities to the young players. Though the team Zimbabwe play against is the young team of Pakistan, the experience Zimbabwe players gain will surely help them in future matches. The last match to be played today, already Zimbabwe have won 3 matches. Even in the match won by Pakistan, the margin is very close based on the DLS method.

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Apart from Omair Yousuf of the Pakistan team, no other batsman could perform well. Omair managed to play an excellent inning of 153 runs off just 126 balls. Besides, Kamran Ghulam collected 55 runs off 79 balls. I expected better performance from Pakistan batsmen. Zimbabwe won easily with a target of 296 runs. Opener Joylord Gumbie scored 111 runs and Craig Ervine scored 161 runs. Due to the great innings of these two batsmen, the Zimbabwean team reached the goal of victory by losing only 3 wickets. The dominance shown by the Zimbabwean team in this series is truly amazing. From this, it can be assumed that the future Zimbabwe team will be stronger.

@Iranus I’m baffled to know that Pakistan lost again because matches like these you expect Pakistan to win and I wonder if the player’s are distracted due to unrest happening in Pakistan? Also this should definitely be a wake up call for the Pakistani selectors because if your reserve squad is weak then it could hurt them in the future tournaments if their main player’s are ruled out due to injuries.

Actually, I agree with you. When Pakistan scores anything more than 250 we always think that it is going to be a win by default for Pakistan. Because Pakistan always has a really good bowling lineup. But Pakistan was unable to have a good bowling performance in this series so far against Zimbabwe. The only excuse that Pakistan might show is this is not an official series. So this points is not going to mean anything. So they are trying out new things with different players. But success is always expected especially from Pakistan in these types of scenarios.

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Quote from: rojan on May 24, 2023, 07:49:05 AM

I saw a lot of difference between Pakistan and Zimbabwean team players. Pakistan team players could not bat and bowl very well. But Zimbabwean did very well from bowling to batting. I thought Zimbabwean will not play very well in the match. But Zimbabwean is very good. played. Pakistan team players are in such a bad situation because of their poor performance.

It's not like that. Pakistan fielded a very young and inexperienced side and at times they struggled against experienced Zimbabwean batsmen such as Craig Ervine and Sean Williams. That said, bowlers like Mir Hamza, Shahnawaz Dahani and Aamer Jamal did what they could under unsupportive conditions. Again, let's not forget the purpose of this series. The PCB is using this series to give opportunities to some of the emerging players ahead of the Asia Cup and ODI World Cup. Those who perform well in this series will be considered for those tournaments.

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As you guys are following this series can anyone here tell me the reason why the Pakistan team is struggling? I am surprised to hear that they have won just a single match whereas Zimbabwe won 3 matches. Pakistan's national team is far better than the A team. Considering the upcoming talents are part of the A team. I feel PCB needs to work on its talent pool and need to take proper action on those players who are underperformers.

Most of the players who play for the Pakistan "A" team are inexperienced but most of the players in the Zimbabwean team have played in the national team, so the players in the Zimbabwean A team are relatively experienced compared to the players in the Pakistan "A" team. But we never expected such a bad performance from Pakistan team. Out of the six match ODI series, four matches have been played so far in which Zimbabwe won three matches and Pakistan won the remaining one match by dls method. Pakistan will have to win the next two matches to level the series. I don't think a team that has lost three matches can win both out of two matches.

I saw a lot of difference between Pakistan and Zimbabwean team players. Pakistan team players could not bat and bowl very well. But Zimbabwean did very well from bowling to batting. I thought Zimbabwean will not play very well in the match. But Zimbabwean is very good. played. Pakistan team players are in such a bad situation because of their poor performance.

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Quote from: elevates on May 24, 2023, 04:45:32 AM

As you guys are following this series can anyone here tell me the reason why the Pakistan team is struggling? I am surprised to hear that they have won just a single match whereas Zimbabwe won 3 matches. Pakistan's national team is far better than the A team. Considering the upcoming talents are part of the A team. I feel PCB needs to work on its talent pool and need to take proper action on those players who are underperformers.

Most of the players who play for the Pakistan "A" team are inexperienced but most of the players in the Zimbabwean team have played in the national team, so the players in the Zimbabwean A team are relatively experienced compared to the players in the Pakistan "A" team. But we never expected such a bad performance from Pakistan team. Out of the six match ODI series, four matches have been played so far in which Zimbabwe won three matches and Pakistan won the remaining one match by dls method. Pakistan will have to win the next two matches to level the series. I don't think a team that has lost three matches can win both out of two matches.

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The schedule for ODI World Cup Qualifier is out. West Indies is placed in Group A, along with Nepal, Netherlands, United States and Zimbabwe. Sri Lanka is in Group B, and they are placed alongside United Arab Emirates, Scotland, Oman and Ireland. The latest news from the tournament is that several of the key players will be absent from the Dutch squad, as they are playing county cricket in England. Paul van Meekeren, Colin Ackermann, Timm van der Gugten, Fred Klaassen and Roelof van der Merwe are some of the players who are missing out.

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What a batting display by Zimbabwean as they chase 295 without any problem in just 48 overs Craig Ervine 161 was the hero for the home side as they are now leading this series by 3 - 1 against Pakistan after securing their third win with two matches are remaining in this series.
Zimbabwe won the toss and choose field first which was not good decision by them as Pakistani batting done good job and hammered them badly with last five overs concede 50 runs which was surely good achievement for Pakistanis but sadly Zimbabwean batting was also done good job and have very organized second wicket partnership of 278 runs which give them success in this match and now having control in this series as well now on 25th May we will have 5th match of this series.

Surprisingly Zimbabwe again beat Pakistan. Pakistan played first and made a good score of 295 runs. In my view 296 runs target was a good target. But on the opposite side Zimbabwe tried very well and chase the target with in 47.3 overs. And they lost only 3 wickets. In this series Zimbabwe team performed really well and now the series is at 3-1. And still 2 ODI's left. Pakistan can equal the series if they win both. But I don't think so that will happen. Because Zimbabwe is in good form.

Apart from Omair Yousuf of the Pakistan team, no other batsman could perform well. Omair managed to play an excellent inning of 153 runs off just 126 balls. Besides, Kamran Ghulam collected 55 runs off 79 balls. I expected better performance from Pakistan batsmen. Zimbabwe won easily with a target of 296 runs. Opener Joylord Gumbie scored 111 runs and Craig Ervine scored 161 runs. Due to the great innings of these two batsmen, the Zimbabwean team reached the goal of victory by losing only 3 wickets. The dominance shown by the Zimbabwean team in this series is truly amazing. From this, it can be assumed that the future Zimbabwe team will be stronger.

@Iranus I’m baffled to know that Pakistan lost again because matches like these you expect Pakistan to win and I wonder if the player’s are distracted due to unrest happening in Pakistan? Also this should definitely be a wake up call for the Pakistani selectors because if your reserve squad is weak then it could hurt them in the future tournaments if their main player’s are ruled out due to injuries.

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As you guys are following this series can anyone here tell me the reason why the Pakistan team is struggling? I am surprised to hear that they have won just a single match whereas Zimbabwe won 3 matches. Pakistan's national team is far better than the A team. Considering the upcoming talents are part of the A team. I feel PCB needs to work on its talent pool and need to take proper action on those players who are underperformers.

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Quote from: ThemePen on May 24, 2023, 01:23:17 AM

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What a batting display by Zimbabwean as they chase 295 without any problem in just 48 overs Craig Ervine 161 was the hero for the home side as they are now leading this series by 3 - 1 against Pakistan after securing their third win with two matches are remaining in this series.
Zimbabwe won the toss and choose field first which was not good decision by them as Pakistani batting done good job and hammered them badly with last five overs concede 50 runs which was surely good achievement for Pakistanis but sadly Zimbabwean batting was also done good job and have very organized second wicket partnership of 278 runs which give them success in this match and now having control in this series as well now on 25th May we will have 5th match of this series.

Surprisingly Zimbabwe again beat Pakistan. Pakistan played first and made a good score of 295 runs. In my view 296 runs target was a good target. But on the opposite side Zimbabwe tried very well and chase the target with in 47.3 overs. And they lost only 3 wickets. In this series Zimbabwe team performed really well and now the series is at 3-1. And still 2 ODI's left. Pakistan can equal the series if they win both. But I don't think so that will happen. Because Zimbabwe is in good form.

Apart from Omair Yousuf of the Pakistan team, no other batsman could perform well. Omair managed to play an excellent inning of 153 runs off just 126 balls. Besides, Kamran Ghulam collected 55 runs off 79 balls. I expected better performance from Pakistan batsmen. Zimbabwe won easily with a target of 296 runs. Opener Joylord Gumbie scored 111 runs and Craig Ervine scored 161 runs. Due to the great innings of these two batsmen, the Zimbabwean team reached the goal of victory by losing only 3 wickets. The dominance shown by the Zimbabwean team in this series is truly amazing. From this, it can be assumed that the future Zimbabwe team will be stronger.

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Quote from: doomloop on May 23, 2023, 03:42:29 PM

What a batting display by Zimbabwean as they chase 295 without any problem in just 48 overs Craig Ervine 161 was the hero for the home side as they are now leading this series by 3 - 1 against Pakistan after securing their third win with two matches are remaining in this series.

Zimbabwe won the toss and choose field first which was not good decision by them as Pakistani batting done good job and hammered them badly with last five overs concede 50 runs which was surely good achievement for Pakistanis but sadly Zimbabwean batting was also done good job and have very organized second wicket partnership of 278 runs which give them success in this match and now having control in this series as well now on 25th May we will have 5th match of this series.

Surprisingly Zimbabwe again beat Pakistan. Pakistan played first and made a good score of 295 runs. In my view 296 runs target was a good target. But on the opposite side Zimbabwe tried very well and chase the target with in 47.3 overs. And they lost only 3 wickets. In this series Zimbabwe team performed really well and now the series is at 3-1. And still 2 ODI's left. Pakistan can equal the series if they win both. But I don't think so that will happen. Because Zimbabwe is in good form.

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Quote from: Dimitri94 on May 23, 2023, 11:34:54 PM

We can not expect such a performance from Pakistan team. But since it is an unofficial match, the series is not played as seriously as it should be played. Many feel that they are trying to hold on to the series alive and end up with a tie or even loss. A big difference in the game was evident when Pakistan team scored only 295 runs in 50 overs in the 4th ODI for the loss of 9 wickets while Zimbabwe team surpassed that target by just 3 wickets. I personally think this is the indifference of Pakistan team players. But there is nothing to say here because the series is unofficial.

Pakistan should not bother much about losing the series. They were playing against the Zimbabwe Senior squad, and yet they gave a good fight. This series was organized to prepare both teams for the ODI World Cup, which is scheduled for later this year. Pakistan selectors did their job, by including a number of emerging players in their squad. For some unknown reasons, the Zimbabwean selectors instead went for the regular players. So even after winning the series, I am not sure how much Zimbabwe has gained from it.

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Zimbabwe S vs Pakistan S

The current cricket series between Pakistan and Zimbabwe has been thrilling to watch with both team demonstrating their abilities and tenacity. The first two unauthorised One Day International (ODI) matches were won by the Zimbabwean team who got off to a great start. Pakistan did however recover in the third match winning and closing the series deficit to 2-1 in Zimbabwe favour. There is a palpable sense of excitement leading up to the fourth match and cricket fans can not wait to see how it turns out. While opinions may vary it is obvious that both sides have exceptional talent and the capacity to change the course of the match. Pakistan will likely play their best game in an effort to tie the series despite the Zimbabwe team strong performance throughout. As we watch the fourth match let's relax and take it all in. Wink

Pakistan actually lost in the 4th ODI as well. Of Course, Pakistan actually performed well. But that did not stop Zimbabwe from winning this match. 296 was the target given by Pakistan. I really thought that this was going to be good enough for Pakistan to win this match. But Zimbabwe actually chased down that target very easily in the end.

I know this is an unofficial series and the score is not going to be added anywhere. But I still think that the performance of Pakistan has not been good at all in this series against Zimbabwe, especially the bowling performance in my opinion. I really think Pakistan should have been able to defend a target of 296 successfully.

We can not expect such a performance from Pakistan team. But since it is an unofficial match, the series is not played as seriously as it should be played. Many feel that they are trying to hold on to the series alive and end up with a tie or even loss. A big difference in the game was evident when Pakistan team scored only 295 runs in 50 overs in the 4th ODI for the loss of 9 wickets while Zimbabwe team surpassed that target by just 3 wickets. I personally think this is the indifference of Pakistan team players. But there is nothing to say here because the series is unofficial.

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Quote from: doomloop on May 23, 2023, 03:42:29 PM

What a batting display by Zimbabwean as they chase 295 without any problem in just 48 overs Craig Ervine 161 was the hero for the home side as they are now leading this series by 3 - 1 against Pakistan after securing their third win with two matches are remaining in this series.

Zimbabwe won the toss and choose field first which was not good decision by them as Pakistani batting done good job and hammered them badly with last five overs concede 50 runs which was surely good achievement for Pakistanis but sadly Zimbabwean batting was also done good job and have very organized second wicket partnership of 278 runs which give them success in this match and now having control in this series as well now on 25th May we will have 5th match of this series.

If the Zimbabweans wanted a morale booster, then they got it. But that doesn't take away the fact that they fielded the national team against a bunch of youngsters from Pakistan. Among the Pakistani players, only a very few had any sort of international experience (such as Hussain Talat and Shahnawaz Dahani). Given the fact that Zimbabwe struggled to defeat them, the future outlook for them looks not very bright for me. Zimbabwe is still dependent on some players who are based outside that country like Craig Ervine and Ryan Burl. And this is not going to be beneficial in the long run.

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Pakistan Shaheens may make a total of close to 300. After 47 overs, they are 263/6, with the 24-year old Omair Yousuf batting unbeaten at 138. Pakistan selectors are utilizing this opportunity well, to give chances to some of the younger players. Apart from Omair, Kamran Ghulam also scored a half-century. On the other hand, there seems to be no difference between the Zimbabwe Select squad and the Zimbabwe senior team. Almost all the players are regulars from the senior side. And they have really struggled against the young Pakistani players.

What a batting display by Zimbabwean as they chase 295 without any problem in just 48 overs Craig Ervine 161 was the hero for the home side as they are now leading this series by 3 - 1 against Pakistan after securing their third win with two matches are remaining in this series.

Zimbabwe won the toss and choose field first which was not good decision by them as Pakistani batting done good job and hammered them badly with last five overs concede 50 runs which was surely good achievement for Pakistanis but sadly Zimbabwean batting was also done good job and have very organized second wicket partnership of 278 runs which give them success in this match and now having control in this series as well now on 25th May we will have 5th match of this series.

I would actually say this was a good decision by the Zimbabwe captain. Because we saw the pitch get better and better for batting as time went on. Zimbabwe also performed really well. I wonder if Zimbabwe could play this freely if they went on to batting in the first innings.

Pakistan did well to post a target of 296, there is no doubt about that. But the one thing Pakistan is always known for is the bowling. And it is certainly surprising and disappointing at the same time to see this type of bowling performance from Pakistan.

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Zimbabwe S vs Pakistan S

The current cricket series between Pakistan and Zimbabwe has been thrilling to watch with both team demonstrating their abilities and tenacity. The first two unauthorised One Day International (ODI) matches were won by the Zimbabwean team who got off to a great start. Pakistan did however recover in the third match winning and closing the series deficit to 2-1 in Zimbabwe favour. There is a palpable sense of excitement leading up to the fourth match and cricket fans can not wait to see how it turns out. While opinions may vary it is obvious that both sides have exceptional talent and the capacity to change the course of the match. Pakistan will likely play their best game in an effort to tie the series despite the Zimbabwe team strong performance throughout. As we watch the fourth match let's relax and take it all in. Wink

Pakistan actually lost in the 4th ODI as well. Of Course, Pakistan actually performed well. But that did not stop Zimbabwe from winning this match. 296 was the target given by Pakistan. I really thought that this was going to be good enough for Pakistan to win this match. But Zimbabwe actually chased down that target very easily in the end.

I know this is an unofficial series and the score is not going to be added anywhere. But I still think that the performance of Pakistan has not been good at all in this series against Zimbabwe, especially the bowling performance in my opinion. I really think Pakistan should have been able to defend a target of 296 successfully.

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Zimbabwe S vs Pakistan S

The current cricket series between Pakistan and Zimbabwe has been thrilling to watch with both team demonstrating their abilities and tenacity. The first two unauthorised One Day International (ODI) matches were won by the Zimbabwean team who got off to a great start. Pakistan did however recover in the third match winning and closing the series deficit to 2-1 in Zimbabwe favour. There is a palpable sense of excitement leading up to the fourth match and cricket fans can not wait to see how it turns out. While opinions may vary it is obvious that both sides have exceptional talent and the capacity to change the course of the match. Pakistan will likely play their best game in an effort to tie the series despite the Zimbabwe team strong performance throughout. As we watch the fourth match let's relax and take it all in. Wink

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 23, 2023, 05:41:39 AM

Pakistan Shaheens may make a total of close to 300. After 47 overs, they are 263/6, with the 24-year old Omair Yousuf batting unbeaten at 138. Pakistan selectors are utilizing this opportunity well, to give chances to some of the younger players. Apart from Omair, Kamran Ghulam also scored a half-century. On the other hand, there seems to be no difference between the Zimbabwe Select squad and the Zimbabwe senior team. Almost all the players are regulars from the senior side. And they have really struggled against the young Pakistani players.

What a batting display by Zimbabwean as they chase 295 without any problem in just 48 overs Craig Ervine 161 was the hero for the home side as they are now leading this series by 3 - 1 against Pakistan after securing their third win with two matches are remaining in this series.

Zimbabwe won the toss and choose field first which was not good decision by them as Pakistani batting done good job and hammered them badly with last five overs concede 50 runs which was surely good achievement for Pakistanis but sadly Zimbabwean batting was also done good job and have very organized second wicket partnership of 278 runs which give them success in this match and now having control in this series as well now on 25th May we will have 5th match of this series.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 23, 2023, 05:41:39 AM

Pakistan Shaheens may make a total of close to 300. After 47 overs, they are 263/6, with the 24-year old Omair Yousuf batting unbeaten at 138. Pakistan selectors are utilizing this opportunity well, to give chances to some of the younger players. Apart from Omair, Kamran Ghulam also scored a half-century. On the other hand, there seems to be no difference between the Zimbabwe Select squad and the Zimbabwe senior team. Almost all the players are regulars from the senior side. And they have really struggled against the young Pakistani players.

Zimbabwe S was actually able to win the match against Pakistan S very easily in the end with 15 balls remaining. Zimbabwe was able to reach the target of 296 quite easily in the end. Joylord Gumbie and Craig Ervine both got a hundred each in this match. This was suddenly a great chase by the Zimbabwe team.

Honestly, when I saw a target around 300 I didn't think Zimbabwe would be able to get that. I was a little surprised to see the way Zimbabwe actually chased down the target. The extra 12 given by Pakistan also helped. But I think Zimbabwe was going to win the match regardless of that.

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