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Namibia has got a bad start to their game against Scotland. They are at 22/1 after 8 overs. Karl Birkenstock got out to Mark Watt for just 4 runs. This match is crucial for Namibia, because they need to win 4 out of their remaining 5 matches, if they want to overtake Oman in ICC Men's Cricket World Cup League 2. Michael van Lingen (who scored a century in the match against Nepal yesterday) is batting out there with Lo-handre Louwrens. Scotland doesn't have much to worry, as they are at the top of the point table and it is impossible for any other team to overtake them.
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First, he got sacked because of the poor performance of the India team in the T20WC held last year. Then he was again got reinstated this year as the Chief Selector by BCCI. After reading about the sting operation I got baffled by what he has accidentally disclosed. Image of a lot every Indian player has been tarnished by this baboon.

A lot of nonsense came out of his mouth. This man was either high or he thinks himself as BCCI. The below meme is not mine but I found it relevant to this post as it clearly implies what he has done to himself in my opinion.



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I didn't expected Namibia to lose to Nepal in ICC Cricket World Cup League Two 2019-23, especially with Sandeep Lamichhane embroiled in the rape controversy. Namibia needs another 7 points to overtake Oman in the points table. They have only 5 matches left now. And that means that they need to win at least 3 games, with one more as draw or tie. Nepal doesn't have much of a chance to qualify to the next stage. Although they have 11 more matches remaining, they are at 6th place with just 20 points.

During yesterday's match, Namibia made a massive total of 285 and still lost it. Michael van Lingen had his highest score in an ODI, while Sandeep Lamichhane took three wickets for Nepal. In return, Kushal Bhurtel and Rohit Paudel scored the runs for Nepal and chased down the target with relative ease. The absence of David Wiese was a negative for Namibia, but they can't expect him to play all these unimportant matches when so many franchise T20 leagues are going on. Ruben Trumpelmann of the other hand took 3 wickets.
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Namibia vs Scotland
The match between Namibia and Scotland is gonna starting after few more hours at 03:45 GMT. I think this match was going to quite interesting. Currently Namibia is slightly weaker than Scotland for losing the last match with Nepal. And besides this Scotland is currently on top of the points table and they are stronger than Namibia on both the batting and bowling side. Even then Scotland is also ahead in previous history of head to head matches Scotland won 3 matches from 4 and on the others hamd Namibia won only 1 .
So after reviewing all the records, my prediction says that Scotland will be ahead on the percentage of winning ratio.
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Oh, Interesting. It seems like there is no discussion about a match between Nepal and Namibia. This match is a part of ICC Cricket World Cup League Two 2019-23. The match was on the home ground of Nepal. The Venue was Tribhuvan University International Cricket Ground, Kirtipur. Namibia batted first, scoring 285 in 50 overs by losing all ten wickets. Michael van Lingen scored an impressive 133 runs from 137 balls. Nepal played 47.4 Overs to win the match. Opening batter Kushal Bhurtel scored 115 from 113 balls. They lost eight wickets and scored 287. Congratulations, Team Nepal.
Nepal did good work today, They played well from the start in today's match. If you look today, the batting lineup is better than the bowler lineup of the both two teams. Although Namibia scored a good score as per the ODI format, Nepal's batsmen did not fall short today as they kept the run rate and run line higher than Namibia from the start and it worked well for them towards the end. However, Nepal might get some points to make a stand in point table by winning this match
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Main problem is corruption which is in many Asian and African countries and nothing good happening even I was checking few reports in India Modi government is clearing billions of USD debit and this all was just few families and peoples those are helping to rule party, so we can't talk this all is happening only in Pakistan we have things like these in all countries but right now we are having Pakistan in our radar so no one love to talk about other countries.
Corruption is present in literally every single country around the world(Not just Asian and African countries). Also, many people are focusing on Pakistan and Sri Lanka in this thread because their economies are completely messed up currently.

Yes soon Pakistan will stand and will show its power. With the passage of time we will see Pakistan will survive and will be able to handle this condition.
No one can predict the future. Pakistan's economic situation might worsen or get better with time thanks to the IMF.
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Oh, Interesting. It seems like there is no discussion about a match between Nepal and Namibia. This match is a part of ICC Cricket World Cup League Two 2019-23. The match was on the home ground of Nepal. The Venue was Tribhuvan University International Cricket Ground, Kirtipur. Namibia batted first, scoring 285 in 50 overs by losing all ten wickets. Michael van Lingen scored an impressive 133 runs from 137 balls. Nepal played 47.4 Overs to win the match. Opening batter Kushal Bhurtel scored 115 from 113 balls. They lost eight wickets and scored 287. Congratulations, Team Nepal.

@John Abraham I didn’t even realise about this match till I saw this post, but when I saw the scorecard it looks like it was a pretty interesting match. Lastly I guess we all missed a nice wagering opportunity in this match, but out of curiosity did anyone take a chance and wager on Nepal if yes what kind of odds did you’ll get?.
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No doubt about few similarities between these two countries Pakistan and Sri Lanka but ground realities are completely different, but we can't discuss here because right now we are just talking about cricket and related things which are more important right now here on this thread instead of going into deep facts about things which are happening in this region and few countries with most chances for me Pakistan will not survive from this situation because they are going badly down even out of the way for having stabilization, but few big countries are still having their interest which are more important and just because of this mostly feeling Pakistan will take time but survive and things could be normal.
Yes soon Pakistan will stand and will show its power. With the passage of time we will see Pakistan will survive and will be able to handle this condition. But as you said ut will take time but soon everything will be normal.

Ramiz Raja already done all paper work and other things related to PSL8 and now Najam Sethi have to sit and watch all things which will be good for them and this event.
Hope so. Because if this event will be held safely. I think this will be a good reputation point and also good for the international teams. I think so.
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Oh, Interesting. It seems like there is no discussion about a match between Nepal and Namibia. This match is a part of ICC Cricket World Cup League Two 2019-23. The match was on the home ground of Nepal. The Venue was Tribhuvan University International Cricket Ground, Kirtipur. Namibia batted first, scoring 285 in 50 overs by losing all ten wickets. Michael van Lingen scored an impressive 133 runs from 137 balls. Nepal played 47.4 Overs to win the match. Opening batter Kushal Bhurtel scored 115 from 113 balls. They lost eight wickets and scored 287. Congratulations, Team Nepal.
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Pakistan and Sri Lanka have the same problem. But the overall situation of the two parties is not the same. Pakistan is an important country in world politics. And there are many countries that are ready to lend to Pakistan subject to various conditions. But it is difficult for Pakistan to accept the terms. Even then I think eventually Pakistan will be able to raise a smart amount of debt. So there is less chance of going bankrupt very quickly.
On the other hand, Sri Lanka's economy was completely dependent on the tourism sector. Sri Lanka is facing a lot of problems during the Corona Pandemic. And at the same time due to some wrong decisions of the government, the country is in such a bad state today.
No doubt about few similarities between these two countries Pakistan and Sri Lanka but ground realities are completely different, but we can't discuss here because right now we are just talking about cricket and related things which are more important right now here on this thread instead of going into deep facts about things which are happening in this region and few countries with most chances for me Pakistan will not survive from this situation because they are going badly down even out of the way for having stabilization, but few big countries are still having their interest which are more important and just because of this mostly feeling Pakistan will take time but survive and things could be normal.

Now about this event which is going ahead despite having many problems as @Sithara007 already mention Ramiz Raja already done all paper work and other things related to PSL8 and now Najam Sethi have to sit and watch all things which will be good for them and this event.
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Pakistan and Sri Lanka have the same problem. But the overall situation of the two parties is not the same. Pakistan is an important country in world politics. And there are many countries that are ready to lend to Pakistan subject to various conditions. But it is difficult for Pakistan to accept the terms. Even then I think eventually Pakistan will be able to raise a smart amount of debt. So there is less chance of going bankrupt very quickly.
On the other hand, Sri Lanka's economy was completely dependent on the tourism sector. Sri Lanka is facing a lot of problems during the Corona Pandemic. And at the same time due to some wrong decisions of the government, the country is in such a bad state today.

First of all, it will be wrong to compare these two countries in the first place. Pakistan's population is more than 10 times higher than that of Sri Lanka, and their diaspora population itself may be larger than the total population of Sri Lanka. The problem with Pakistan is that they are unable to convert their large market to revenues in the cricket domain. Media rights revenues are around 1% of that in India, due to a variety of reasons - regulations on advertisement, content-sharing rules and low cable TV penetration. In these aspects, Sri Lanka ranks higher than Pakistan.
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The biggest difference between Pakistan & Srilanka in the current situation is that IMF has agreed on a bailout package for Srilanka and not with Pakistan. I would never say that Pakistan cannot organize another season of PSL. I would only say that this is not the right time. The worst is yet to come for Pakistan and you can blame it blatantly on the ruling class for the current situation. Rameez did good to for PCB but with Sethi as chairman, I do not think the revenue generated by PSL if it happens will go to the board.
Pakistan may get loans from some of the international agencies, as talks are going on. The case with Sri Lanka was much worse and that country ran out of petrol and diesel, and there were people waiting to fill their vehicles for weeks. Similar to the case with the IPL (which is the major revenue generator for the BCCI), PSL has gradually become a revenue earner for the PCB. Sethi don't need to do anything special. Before his departure, Rameez had already finalized the revenue sharing deal with the franchises and entered in to a very competitive media rights deal with PTV Sports and A Sports. There will be a steady flow of revenue, and Sethi just need to sit back and watch while funds flow in to the PCB accounts.

Pakistan and Sri Lanka have the same problem. But the overall situation of the two parties is not the same. Pakistan is an important country in world politics. And there are many countries that are ready to lend to Pakistan subject to various conditions. But it is difficult for Pakistan to accept the terms. Even then I think eventually Pakistan will be able to raise a smart amount of debt. So there is less chance of going bankrupt very quickly.
On the other hand, Sri Lanka's economy was completely dependent on the tourism sector. Sri Lanka is facing a lot of problems during the Corona Pandemic. And at the same time due to some wrong decisions of the government, the country is in such a bad state today.
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The biggest difference between Pakistan & Srilanka in the current situation is that IMF has agreed on a bailout package for Srilanka and not with Pakistan. I would never say that Pakistan cannot organize another season of PSL. I would only say that this is not the right time. The worst is yet to come for Pakistan and you can blame it blatantly on the ruling class for the current situation. Rameez did good to for PCB but with Sethi as chairman, I do not think the revenue generated by PSL if it happens will go to the board.

Pakistan may get loans from some of the international agencies, as talks are going on. The case with Sri Lanka was much worse and that country ran out of petrol and diesel, and there were people waiting to fill their vehicles for weeks. Similar to the case with the IPL (which is the major revenue generator for the BCCI), PSL has gradually become a revenue earner for the PCB. Sethi don't need to do anything special. Before his departure, Rameez had already finalized the revenue sharing deal with the franchises and entered in to a very competitive media rights deal with PTV Sports and A Sports. There will be a steady flow of revenue, and Sethi just need to sit back and watch while funds flow in to the PCB accounts.
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If you compare the economic situation in Sri Lanka with that in Pakistan, you will admit that the Lankan are in a much worse situation. But that didn't prevented them from hosting the Lanka Premier League successfully a few months back. With the PCB, they already have an old and established league in the PSL. With the new revenue sharing model that was implemented last year by Rameez, if the tournament is conducted properly then the board can get a lot of revenues in the form of media rights and sponsorship. Flood and inflation will have an impact, but I am sure that they will get through.

The biggest difference between Pakistan & Srilanka in the current situation is that IMF has agreed on a bailout package for Srilanka and not with Pakistan. I would never say that Pakistan cannot organize another season of PSL. I would only say that this is not the right time. The worst is yet to come for Pakistan and you can blame it blatantly on the ruling class for the current situation. Rameez did good to for PCB but with Sethi as chairman, I do not think the revenue generated by PSL will go fairly to the board.
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Pakistan's floods, political situation as well as economy are now in negative shape from all aspects. This was still the case when Imran Khan was in power but not as much as it is now. All the problems became visible with the change of power. Pakistan is trying to get rid of that situation but it is not possible to say when it will be free. Pakistan's economic impact is not visible in cricket, But it will definitely have an impact invisibly.

If you compare the economic situation in Sri Lanka with that in Pakistan, you will admit that the Lankan are in a much worse situation. But that didn't prevented them from hosting the Lanka Premier League successfully a few months back. With the PCB, they already have an old and established league in the PSL. With the new revenue sharing model that was implemented last year by Rameez, if the tournament is conducted properly then the board can get a lot of revenues in the form of media rights and sponsorship. Flood and inflation will have an impact, but I am sure that they will get through.
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The situation of Pakistan economy is getting worse with each passing day and no doubt the rich and elite class of Pakistan has no idea about poverty  and crisis as they have all the luxury.  Tim Hortons is example of that as there are two lines people are making these days
1) line of people for food and basic commodities
2) lines outside tim Hortons.
This difference of classes is very threatening.
Right now, just because of cricket talking about any country's other problems are not suitable because we have the worst situation in many countries but due to tough media control we have no all updates about them in Pakistan situation is same but sadly here media is not under control, so we have all negative aspects are coming out and nothing positive happening on media and peoples are surely suffering, but they are also having courage to fight with this all situation which is also good.

Main problem is corruption which is in many Asian and African countries and nothing good happening even I was checking few reports in India Modi government is clearing billions of USD debit and this all was just few families and peoples those are helping to rule party, so we can't talk this all is happening only in Pakistan we have things like these in all countries but right now we are having Pakistan in our radar so no one love to talk about other countries.
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I agree PCB has every right to host tourney in Pakistan but at the same BCCI has valid reservations, which we have discussed countless times. Also visiting Pakistan for Asia Cup will set a new precedent that if India can visit for the Asia cup then why not for Bilateral tours?

I would prefer if they host the tournament without India despite taking a hit on revenue. Also evil BCCI never takes a single penny from the Asia cup so it serves them right that no one has a favorable opinion towards BCCI.
I am also feeling now we need to bring changes as well as they already talk countlessly and India is not coming to play cricket in Pakistan then surely they need to go ahead without them even this could be not profitable, but this is good time for checking this all that can they survive without India in Asia or not if this happens in positive way then surely this could be good for the ACC as well because while next time India wants to host Asia Cup then surely they can also go ahead without Pakistan, and we will have end of this all drama which is creating mess up in ACC.

But, if they have not been minding to play without India then surely they need to go ahead at neutral place and stop this all media drama and other bullshit talk which is not favourable for anyone and just having off the field sentiments, hopefully we will have better decision in near future about this all.
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They seem so unstable. I am not sure if there is any way Pakistan is going to be stable again - today I was watching in new that Tim Hortons has their highest sale over 61 years in Lahore. Are the people of Pakistan really poor?
Comparing the sale figure of Tim Hortons with that of the Pakistan's present scenario is unfair. Every country have got poor as well as rich people. The rich always enjoy the luxury, even at the bad economic situation the life style won't be disturbed much. This is the reason Tim Hortons have made history, not because of the people who are striving for a day's meal.
However, it is never possible to understand the overall situation of a country by looking at the life style of the elite class people of a country. Tim Hortons is located where the upper class lives, organizations like Tim Hortons operate in those areas. As far as I know Pakistan is currently going through a major financial crisis. It may take some time for this situation to normalize. Poverty is increasing rapidly.
For Pakistan to recover from the ongoing financial problem it takes years. Already Pakistan isn't good with its economy, the pandemic affected them hard. When the slow progress began the floods and debts got accumulated and weakened the economy. Government mismanagement too a major reason for the prevailing situation in Pakistan. Somehow this hasn't affected the sporting activities within the country. Before things go worse initiative need to be taken to safeguard the country's economy.
The situation of Pakistan economy is getting worse with each passing day and no doubt the rich and elite class of Pakistan has no idea about poverty  and crisis as they have all the luxury.  Tim Hortons is example of that as there are two lines people are making these days
1) line of people for food and basic commodities
2) lines outside tim Hortons.
This difference of classes is very threatening.
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I agree PCB has every right to host tourney in Pakistan but at the same BCCI has valid reservations, which we have discussed countless times. Also visiting Pakistan for Asia Cup will set a new precedent that if India can visit for the Asia cup then why not for Bilateral tours?

I would prefer if they host the tournament without India despite taking a hit on revenue. Also evil BCCI never takes a single penny from the Asia cup so it serves them right that no one has a favorable opinion towards BCCI.
I am also feeling now we need to bring changes as well as they already talk countlessly and India is not coming to play cricket in Pakistan then surely they need to go ahead without them even this could be not profitable, but this is good time for checking this all that can they survive without India in Asia or not if this happens in positive way then surely this could be good for the ACC as well because while next time India wants to host Asia Cup then surely they can also go ahead without Pakistan, and we will have end of this all drama which is creating mess up in ACC.

But, if they have not been minding to play without India then surely they need to go ahead at neutral place and stop this all media drama and other bullshit talk which is not favourable for anyone and just having off the field sentiments, hopefully we will have better decision in near future about this all.
Pakistani cricket and economy are both in limbo
They seem so unstable. I am not sure if there is any way Pakistan is going to be stable again - today I was watching in new that Tim Hortons has their highest sale over 61 years in Lahore. Are the people of Pakistan really poor?
Comparing the sale figure of Tim Hortons with that of the Pakistan's present scenario is unfair. Every country have got poor as well as rich people. The rich always enjoy the luxury, even at the bad economic situation the life style won't be disturbed much. This is the reason Tim Hortons have made history, not because of the people who are striving for a day's meal.
However, it is never possible to understand the overall situation of a country by looking at the life style of the elite class people of a country. Tim Hortons is located where the upper class lives, organizations like Tim Hortons operate in those areas. As far as I know Pakistan is currently going through a major financial crisis. It may take some time for this situation to normalize. Poverty is increasing rapidly.
For Pakistan to recover from the ongoing financial problem it takes years. Already Pakistan isn't good with its economy, the pandemic affected them hard. When the slow progress began the floods and debts got accumulated and weakened the economy. Government mismanagement too a major reason for the prevailing situation in Pakistan. Somehow this hasn't affected the sporting activities within the country. Before things go worse initiative need to be taken to safeguard the country's economy.
Pakistan's floods, political situation as well as economy are now in negative shape from all aspects. This was still the case when Imran Khan was in power but not as much as it is now. All the problems became visible with the change of power. Pakistan is trying to get rid of that situation but it is not possible to say when it will be free. Pakistan's economic impact is not visible in cricket, But it will definitely have an impact invisibly.
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I agree PCB has every right to host tourney in Pakistan but at the same BCCI has valid reservations, which we have discussed countless times. Also visiting Pakistan for Asia Cup will set a new precedent that if India can visit for the Asia cup then why not for Bilateral tours?

I would prefer if they host the tournament without India despite taking a hit on revenue. Also evil BCCI never takes a single penny from the Asia cup so it serves them right that no one has a favorable opinion towards BCCI.
I am also feeling now we need to bring changes as well as they already talk countlessly and India is not coming to play cricket in Pakistan then surely they need to go ahead without them even this could be not profitable, but this is good time for checking this all that can they survive without India in Asia or not if this happens in positive way then surely this could be good for the ACC as well because while next time India wants to host Asia Cup then surely they can also go ahead without Pakistan, and we will have end of this all drama which is creating mess up in ACC.

But, if they have not been minding to play without India then surely they need to go ahead at neutral place and stop this all media drama and other bullshit talk which is not favourable for anyone and just having off the field sentiments, hopefully we will have better decision in near future about this all.
Pakistani cricket and economy are both in limbo
They seem so unstable. I am not sure if there is any way Pakistan is going to be stable again - today I was watching in new that Tim Hortons has their highest sale over 61 years in Lahore. Are the people of Pakistan really poor?
Comparing the sale figure of Tim Hortons with that of the Pakistan's present scenario is unfair. Every country have got poor as well as rich people. The rich always enjoy the luxury, even at the bad economic situation the life style won't be disturbed much. This is the reason Tim Hortons have made history, not because of the people who are striving for a day's meal.
However, it is never possible to understand the overall situation of a country by looking at the life style of the elite class people of a country. Tim Hortons is located where the upper class lives, organizations like Tim Hortons operate in those areas. As far as I know Pakistan is currently going through a major financial crisis. It may take some time for this situation to normalize. Poverty is increasing rapidly.
For Pakistan to recover from the ongoing financial problem it takes years. Already Pakistan isn't good with its economy, the pandemic affected them hard. When the slow progress began the floods and debts got accumulated and weakened the economy. Government mismanagement too a major reason for the prevailing situation in Pakistan. Somehow this hasn't affected the sporting activities within the country. Before things go worse initiative need to be taken to safeguard the country's economy.
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I agree PCB has every right to host tourney in Pakistan but at the same BCCI has valid reservations, which we have discussed countless times. Also visiting Pakistan for Asia Cup will set a new precedent that if India can visit for the Asia cup then why not for Bilateral tours?

I would prefer if they host the tournament without India despite taking a hit on revenue. Also evil BCCI never takes a single penny from the Asia cup so it serves them right that no one has a favorable opinion towards BCCI.
I am also feeling now we need to bring changes as well as they already talk countlessly and India is not coming to play cricket in Pakistan then surely they need to go ahead without them even this could be not profitable, but this is good time for checking this all that can they survive without India in Asia or not if this happens in positive way then surely this could be good for the ACC as well because while next time India wants to host Asia Cup then surely they can also go ahead without Pakistan, and we will have end of this all drama which is creating mess up in ACC.

But, if they have not been minding to play without India then surely they need to go ahead at neutral place and stop this all media drama and other bullshit talk which is not favourable for anyone and just having off the field sentiments, hopefully we will have better decision in near future about this all.
Pakistani cricket and economy are both in limbo
They seem so unstable. I am not sure if there is any way Pakistan is going to be stable again - today I was watching in new that Tim Hortons has their highest sale over 61 years in Lahore. Are the people of Pakistan really poor?
Comparing the sale figure of Tim Hortons with that of the Pakistan's present scenario is unfair. Every country have got poor as well as rich people. The rich always enjoy the luxury, even at the bad economic situation the life style won't be disturbed much. This is the reason Tim Hortons have made history, not because of the people who are striving for a day's meal.
However, it is never possible to understand the overall situation of a country by looking at the life style of the elite class people of a country. Tim Hortons is located where the upper class lives, organizations like Tim Hortons operate in those areas. As far as I know Pakistan is currently going through a major financial crisis. It may take some time for this situation to normalize. Poverty is increasing rapidly.
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